RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
What do you do when the photo has more than 1 person in it? Mary -Original Message- From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip I like my file names to include both who and what. JohnJones1879_Death.jpg JohnJones1879_Obit.jpg JohnJones1879_WWII.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage_02.jpg JohnJones1879_MaryMoore1880_Marriage.jpg I also use folders to help with organization, so last name first isn't a need for me. I don't always include the birth year, but find it helpful when I have several people with the same name. -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
I still aim for an expressive name for the file, but my folder structure comes into play here too. So... JohnDoe1890_FamilyPic.jpg will tell me the who and the what. It also tells me there where, the JohnDoe1890 folder. However, I'd need a readme or something with an explanation of my structure. It isn't that it is very complicated, but just may not be intuitive or expressive enough alone. FWIW, I use an electronic variation of the Mary Hill system - so surname base folders, direct ancestor sub-folders (co-laterals nested in them as needed), prefer direct descendant names (either male or female), and prefer male if a conflict (cousins marry). Family related info ends up in the head of houshold folder for sure. If I deem important enough, I may copy it to all family members as well (makes it easy to just do a copy/paste/zip/etc of a targeted branch). If I acquire something that spans multiple families or generations, that usually lands in the base surname folder (other relatives pedigrees or a copy of a downloadable google book, etc) I've never been asked how many census images I've collected, but have been asked what I have on John Doe. That's usually followed by a request for copies of some things. Most times these questions do not occur when I'm at home in front of my Legacy database. This structure and naming gives me the means to do an acceptable job answering these questions (especially with it mirrored in DropBox) no matter where I happen to be. Obviously, Legacy is more detailed, and I can always followup with more later. Anyway, works for me. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:07 AM, M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote: What do you do when the photo has more than 1 person in it? Mary -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
James, I do the same, but as it is possible to have the same file name in different folders I add the folder name too the start of the file name e.g. Family2012_JonSmit_cens1911.jpg, where Family2012 is the folder name, ensures that all my images have a unique name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I like my file names to include both who and what. JohnJones1879_Death.jpg JohnJones1879_Obit.jpg JohnJones1879_WWII.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage_02.jpg JohnJones1879_MaryMoore1880_Marriage.jpg I also use folders to help with organization, so last name first isn't a need for me. I don't always include the birth year, but find it helpful when I have several people with the same name. -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 11:59 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: James, I do the same, but as it is possible to have the same file name in different folders I add the folder name too the start of the file name e.g. Family2012_JonSmit_cens1911.jpg, where Family2012 is the folder name, ensures that all my images have a unique name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ James Cookjc1...@gmail.com wrote: I like my file names to include both who and what. JohnJones1879_Death.jpg JohnJones1879_Obit.jpg JohnJones1879_WWII.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage_02.jpg JohnJones1879_MaryMoore1880_Marriage.jpg I also use folders to help with organization, so last name first isn't a need for me. I don't always include the birth year, but find it helpful when I have several people with the same name. -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: 06/08/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
Sorry I misspoke. In some cases I do put a description of what a file is, such as 0017-1786 baptism, John Beeken because there might be several children in that folder that need to be distinguished one from the other. It's not strictly necessary because the names are in the IPTC as well. For anyone needing to quickly rename files for web pages; taking out spaces, turning uppercase to lowercase, etc there's a free program called Bulk Rename Utility. http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Download.php. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 12:34 PM, JLB wrote: I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 11:59 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: James, I do the same, but as it is possible to have the same file name in different folders I add the folder name too the start of the file name e.g. Family2012_JonSmit_cens1911.jpg, where Family2012 is the folder name, ensures that all my images have a unique name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ James Cookjc1...@gmail.com wrote: I like my file names to include both who and what. JohnJones1879_Death.jpg JohnJones1879_Obit.jpg JohnJones1879_WWII.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage.jpg JohnJones1879_SusieSmith1883_Marriage_02.jpg JohnJones1879_MaryMoore1880_Marriage.jpg I also use folders to help with organization, so last name first isn't a need for me. I don't always include the birth year, but find it helpful when I have several people with the same name. -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: 06/08/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: 06/08/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
With respect, I don't find tying my files to a particular software/vendor as similar at all. I share fairly freely with other family researchers, and a tie to my personal software choices just doesn't make logical sense to me. I can buy the rest of your argument to some degree, as I primarily work on a Windows system. However, between PDAs, DropBox and other forms of storage and sharing, I find there are many more reasons to use expressive names than not. And I don't find it takes any more effort. I do like the idea of the _es code - I have had a need for that. I do not make use of IPTC as much as I know I should. Slowly trying to make that a habit and not something to remind myself of. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, JLB j...@jgen.ws wrote: I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
What I meant by 'similar' was Ron's method of putting a family folder name at the beginning of his photo file names. I do the same; I just use MRIN's. Clearly, not all genealogy programs use MRIN's so the meaning of the numbers could be irrelevant to someone else. So far, that's not an issue here. If someone asks me for what information I have on a particular person I know where to find it quickly and they know what I'm sending them. The numbers are just numbers. They don't get in the way of our exchange. I assume they will rename those files to suit themselves. They're most interested in the content. What makes Ron's example of Family2012 any clearer than an MRIN? What does '2012' refer to? He's using that numbering for the same reason I use the MRIN's - as a way to make sure every file has a unique name, to paraphrase exactly what he said. IPTC is a standard (depending which software you choose, and that's a bad industry joke at the moment) and I highly recommend it for adding all the information you can to your files in a way that will stay embedded regardless of changing file names. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 12:57 PM, James Cook wrote: With respect, I don't find tying my files to a particular software/vendor as similar at all. I share fairly freely with other family researchers, and a tie to my personal software choices just doesn't make logical sense to me. I can buy the rest of your argument to some degree, as I primarily work on a Windows system. However, between PDAs, DropBox and other forms of storage and sharing, I find there are many more reasons to use expressive names than not. And I don't find it takes any more effort. I do like the idea of the _es code - I have had a need for that. I do not make use of IPTC as much as I know I should. Slowly trying to make that a habit and not something to remind myself of. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, JLBj...@jgen.ws wrote: I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
JLB, Actually my 2012 is the year, and if I need more than one folder then I may have 2012-1. But, as you correctly say, in use it is just a number which helps to make a file name unique. I could just as easily have used RINS or MRINs in the file name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 9:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip What I meant by 'similar' was Ron's method of putting a family folder name at the beginning of his photo file names. I do the same; I just use MRIN's. Clearly, not all genealogy programs use MRIN's so the meaning of the numbers could be irrelevant to someone else. So far, that's not an issue here. If someone asks me for what information I have on a particular person I know where to find it quickly and they know what I'm sending them. The numbers are just numbers. They don't get in the way of our exchange. I assume they will rename those files to suit themselves. They're most interested in the content. What makes Ron's example of Family2012 any clearer than an MRIN? What does '2012' refer to? He's using that numbering for the same reason I use the MRIN's - as a way to make sure every file has a unique name, to paraphrase exactly what he said. IPTC is a standard (depending which software you choose, and that's a bad industry joke at the moment) and I highly recommend it for adding all the information you can to your files in a way that will stay embedded regardless of changing file names. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 12:57 PM, James Cook wrote: With respect, I don't find tying my files to a particular software/vendor as similar at all. I share fairly freely with other family researchers, and a tie to my personal software choices just doesn't make logical sense to me. I can buy the rest of your argument to some degree, as I primarily work on a Windows system. However, between PDAs, DropBox and other forms of storage and sharing, I find there are many more reasons to use expressive names than not. And I don't find it takes any more effort. I do like the idea of the _es code - I have had a need for that. I do not make use of IPTC as much as I know I should. Slowly trying to make that a habit and not something to remind myself of. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, JLBj...@jgen.ws wrote: I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
In that case, yes, I use dated folders by year. At least for my close family. The ones I use the MRIN's for are pre-1950 for the most part and people not my parents or siblings. I don't generally have regular input of photos for other people's families. The odd ones just go in the appropriate MRIN folder. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 2:46 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: JLB, Actually my 2012 is the year, and if I need more than one folder then I may have 2012-1. But, as you correctly say, in use it is just a number which helps to make a file name unique. I could just as easily have used RINS or MRINs in the file name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: JLB Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 9:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip What I meant by 'similar' was Ron's method of putting a family folder name at the beginning of his photo file names. I do the same; I just use MRIN's. Clearly, not all genealogy programs use MRIN's so the meaning of the numbers could be irrelevant to someone else. So far, that's not an issue here. If someone asks me for what information I have on a particular person I know where to find it quickly and they know what I'm sending them. The numbers are just numbers. They don't get in the way of our exchange. I assume they will rename those files to suit themselves. They're most interested in the content. What makes Ron's example of Family2012 any clearer than an MRIN? What does '2012' refer to? He's using that numbering for the same reason I use the MRIN's - as a way to make sure every file has a unique name, to paraphrase exactly what he said. IPTC is a standard (depending which software you choose, and that's a bad industry joke at the moment) and I highly recommend it for adding all the information you can to your files in a way that will stay embedded regardless of changing file names. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 12:57 PM, James Cook wrote: With respect, I don't find tying my files to a particular software/vendor as similar at all. I share fairly freely with other family researchers, and a tie to my personal software choices just doesn't make logical sense to me. I can buy the rest of your argument to some degree, as I primarily work on a Windows system. However, between PDAs, DropBox and other forms of storage and sharing, I find there are many more reasons to use expressive names than not. And I don't find it takes any more effort. I do like the idea of the _es code - I have had a need for that. I do not make use of IPTC as much as I know I should. Slowly trying to make that a habit and not something to remind myself of. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, JLBj...@jgen.ws wrote: I do similarly except using the MRIN at the beginning of the name, then a date, then a number. eg. 0037-1890-01 and then _e for edits, or _s for resized, or both _es, es2, etc. So, a file-name might look like 0037-1890-01_e.tif I don't put any names or other identifying information in the file-names because it's all in the IPTC, some of which can be seen in Windows 'Detail View' under various columns or at the bottom of the screen in Windows 7. Other than that, it's pretty obvious looking at the thumbnails what the content is. For instance, a census record, marriage certificate, whatever. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: 06/08/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
One thing that needs to be considered is can and will someone else understand your file naming and foldering. When one is no longer around to answer any question, about where did he/she put those files? As for using surname for folders, I have way to many that would be in more than one folder. As for the married females, are they in their main name of married name? what about if they have been married more than once? This is why I use the surname as part of the file and in most cases I the maiden name upfront and a married name last. I also will use birth and death years if needed and a type of data, such as Birth Cert, Death Cert and etc. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip JLB, Actually my 2012 is the year, and if I need more than one folder then I may have 2012-1. But, as you correctly say, in use it is just a number which helps to make a file name unique. I could just as easily have used RINS or MRINs in the file name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
I plan on being understood by leaving a READ ME file. In writing the READ ME file I realized some things I could simplify so I did that. In MRIN filing, that means by marriage. So, if there's more than one, there's more than one folder. I only use maiden names for women to keep it simple. They're listed that way in my database so why confuse things by giving them more than one name in my files? I search my embedded information often and it would be impossible to do if I had more than one version of a person's name. For people with the same name, I use b1813 for instance after their name in the keywords, so if I'm searching for, say, Hector E Beeken b1813 that's what the keyword is. JL | http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/8/2012 3:31 PM, David C Abernathy wrote: One thing that needs to be considered is can and will someone else understand your file naming and foldering. When one is no longer around to answer any question, about where did he/she put those files? As for using surname for folders, I have way to many that would be in more than one folder. As for the married females, are they in their main name of married name? what about if they have been married more than once? This is why I use the surname as part of the file and in most cases I the maiden name upfront and a married name last. I also will use birth and death years if needed and a type of data, such as Birth Cert, Death Cert and etc. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip JLB, Actually my 2012 is the year, and if I need more than one folder then I may have 2012-1. But, as you correctly say, in use it is just a number which helps to make a file name unique. I could just as easily have used RINS or MRINs in the file name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: 06/08/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
David, I do not consider it particularly important whether others may understand the file naming system. My objective was to simply ensure that *all* my file names were unique, so that when I moved to fresh computers it would be easy to get them correctly linked. NB. I do not have my files stored in C:\ but in the areas designated for the PC users. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: David C Abernathy Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip One thing that needs to be considered is can and will someone else understand your file naming and foldering. When one is no longer around to answer any question, about where did he/she put those files? As for using surname for folders, I have way to many that would be in more than one folder. As for the married females, are they in their main name of married name? what about if they have been married more than once? This is why I use the surname as part of the file and in most cases I the maiden name upfront and a married name last. I also will use birth and death years if needed and a type of data, such as Birth Cert, Death Cert and etc. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip JLB, Actually my 2012 is the year, and if I need more than one folder then I may have 2012-1. But, as you correctly say, in use it is just a number which helps to make a file name unique. I could just as easily have used RINS or MRINs in the file name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
And so can spaces!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2012/06/02 23:49, M Sonnier wrote: Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg I presume you're *not* wanting the picture to appear on a website! Commas in a file name may cause problems at a later stage. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
On 2012/06/03 10:31, Ron Ferguson wrote: And so can spaces!! Didn't remember your pronouncements on that one :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
Thanks, I hadn't thought of publishing my research to a website which many of you do. I guess you could change the comma and spaces to an underscore. Morris Sonnier From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip And so can spaces!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2012/06/02 23:49, M Sonnier wrote: Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg I presume you're *not* wanting the picture to appear on a website! Commas in a file name may cause problems at a later stage. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
Morris, Although it might be regarded by some as overkill, to be absolutely safe, I would not recommend using any characters, including spaces, except alpha-numeric, hyphens and underscores in file names. The problem is that html gives a special interpretation to a number of characters, or the server may change them, in the case of a space it can become a “%20” which will not be recognised by a program expecting a space! One other thing to watch is using upper and lower case letters. Whilst Windows considers them to be the same html does not. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk From: M Sonnier Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip Thanks, I hadn't thought of publishing my research to a website which many of you do. I guess you could change the comma and spaces to an underscore. Morris Sonnier From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip And so can spaces!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2012/06/02 23:49, M Sonnier wrote: Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg I presume you're *not* wanting the picture to appear on a website! Commas in a file name may cause problems at a later stage. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
I just use what at one time was called “Polish Caps”. Upper case the first character of each name and now space between. JonesWilliamThomas I always use the maiden name for females. SmithMaryBeth Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com http://www.schmeckabernathy.com/ == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 7:53 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip Morris, Although it might be regarded by some as overkill, to be absolutely safe, I would not recommend using any characters, including spaces, except alpha-numeric, hyphens and underscores in file names. The problem is that html gives a special interpretation to a number of characters, or the server may change them, in the case of a space it can become a “%20” which will not be recognised by a program expecting a space! One other thing to watch is using upper and lower case letters. Whilst Windows considers them to be the same html does not. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk From: M Sonnier mailto:oldbiloxiho...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip Thanks, I hadn't thought of publishing my research to a website which many of you do. I guess you could change the comma and spaces to an underscore. Morris Sonnier _ From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip And so can spaces!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2012/06/02 23:49, M Sonnier wrote: Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg I presume you're *not* wanting the picture to appear on a website! Commas in a file name may cause problems at a later stage. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
That is how I do it except I add numbers behind… JonesWilliamThomas01 JonesWilliamThomas02 Michele From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:23 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip I just use what at one time was called “Polish Caps”. Upper case the first character of each name and now space between. JonesWilliamThomas I always use the maiden name for females. SmithMaryBeth Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 7:53 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip Morris, Although it might be regarded by some as overkill, to be absolutely safe, I would not recommend using any characters, including spaces, except alpha-numeric, hyphens and underscores in file names. The problem is that html gives a special interpretation to a number of characters, or the server may change them, in the case of a space it can become a “%20” which will not be recognised by a program expecting a space! One other thing to watch is using upper and lower case letters. Whilst Windows considers them to be the same html does not. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk From: M Sonnier Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip Thanks, I hadn't thought of publishing my research to a website which many of you do. I guess you could change the comma and spaces to an underscore. Morris Sonnier From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip And so can spaces!! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2012/06/02 23:49, M Sonnier wrote: Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg I presume you're *not* wanting the picture to appear on a website! Commas in a file name may cause problems at a later stage. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
On 2012/06/03 17:22, David C Abernathy wrote: I just use what at one time was called “Polish Caps”. Upper case the first character of each name and now space between. JonesWilliamThomas I always use the maiden name for females. SmithMaryBeth And I always think of this as Hungarian notation :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
And as a computer programmer, this is referred to as CamelCase as the uppercase mixed with lowercase represents the camel humps ;-) Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Monday, 4 June 2012 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip On 2012/06/03 17:22, David C Abernathy wrote: I just use what at one time was called �Polish Caps�. Upper case the first character of each name and now space between. JonesWilliamThomas I always use the maiden name for females. SmithMaryBeth And I always think of this as Hungarian notation :-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
I have over 7,000 linked photos. In the Heritage Collector webinar, the moderator asked, how fast can you find a picture. Just thought I would pass along what I do which works well. The name of the picture is: Last name, First name, 1st 2nd or 3rd, number of picture. Example: The sixth picture for John Jones IV. would be: John Jones 4.6.jpg Hope this helps those who may be interested. Morris Sonnier Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip
Correction on the name. In my file it would appear as: Jones, John 4.6.jpg From: M Sonnier oldbiloxiho...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Naming Tip I have over 7,000 linked photos. In the Heritage Collector webinar, the moderator asked, how fast can you find a picture. Just thought I would pass along what I do which works well. The name of the picture is: Last name, First name, 1st 2nd or 3rd, number of picture. Example: The sixth picture for John Jones IV. would be: John Jones 4.6.jpg Hope this helps those who may be interested. Morris Sonnier Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
