[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 6:41 AM T-vK T-vK  wrote:
>
> Thank you! :) Installing the `generic-logos` package as you described 
> successfully removed the logos. Although the "OS Name" in Gnome's "About" 
> window still says "Fedora 34 (Workstation Edition)", but the Logos are gone. 
> I wasn't able to get the remix logos instead though, even after installing 
> `fedora-remix-logos`. Instead of proper logos I only see a tiny grey logo 
> resembling a piece of paper with a warning sign on it. Any ideas how I can 
> fix that?
> Maybe the reason why no one has asked for this before is because I'm 
> modifying an existing ISO image rather than building a new one. I suppose 
> that not many people would do that.

Changing the name requires swapping to the "generic-release" package,
using the same mechanism you used for "generic-logos".



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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-15 Thread T-vK T-vK
Thank you! :) Installing the `generic-logos` package as you described 
successfully removed the logos. Although the "OS Name" in Gnome's "About" 
window still says "Fedora 34 (Workstation Edition)", but the Logos are gone. I 
wasn't able to get the remix logos instead though, even after installing 
`fedora-remix-logos`. Instead of proper logos I only see a tiny grey logo 
resembling a piece of paper with a warning sign on it. Any ideas how I can fix 
that?
Maybe the reason why no one has asked for this before is because I'm modifying 
an existing ISO image rather than building a new one. I suppose that not many 
people would do that.
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 09:40:15AM -, T-vK T-vK wrote:
> Okay, so I have installed fedora-remix-logos inside the ISO and when
> booting it I can confirm the package is installed, but unfortunately the
> fedora logo is still there. E.g. in the bottom right of the default
> desktop wallpaper.

It looks like that package is just additive and doesn't do a full replace.
However, `generic-logos` does. So, looks like you'll also need to do `sudo
dnf install --allowerasing generic-logos`.

We could look at changing this so the fedora-remix package does a full
reskin as well. I don't remember being asked about that before, honestly. (I
think many people using the remix option add their own logos, and use
"Fedora Remix" as a kind of badge.)


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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-14 Thread T-vK T-vK
Okay, so I have installed fedora-remix-logos inside the ISO and when booting it 
I can confirm the package is installed, but unfortunately the fedora logo is 
still there. E.g. in the bottom right of the default desktop wallpaper.
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-13 Thread T-vK T-vK
I'm using `editliveos` to make some modifications to the original ISO. It's all 
open source, this is the function that modifies it:
https://github.com/T-vK/MobilePassThrough/blob/da8c37ebdb4147dbbcde0e55a50085a882f966c5/scripts/main/generate-live-iso.sh#L57-L97

I have tried actually building an image using livecd-creator a few years ago, 
but it was a very time consuming process and I think also problematic to fully 
automate. I literally just need to add/edit a handful of files to the original 
image which seems way easier and way more efficient to me than rebuilding the 
whole image.

After installing `fedora-remix-logos` in the ISO, I tried removing 
`fedora-logos` to see if it got removed automatically, but it was still there 
and shouldn't be removed because gnome-shell is depending on it...

Best regards
T-vK
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 09:16:17PM -, T-vK T-vK wrote:
> Thank you very much for the quick response! I'm definitely making a remix
> then. Installing fedora-remix-logos inside the image was pretty easy. But
> since I'm modifying the original image instead of building my own, I have
> one more question: I probably have to uninstall the official logos as
> well, right? I.e. uninstall the "fedora-logos" package. Is there something
> else I would have to take care of?

It is our intention for the official logos to be contained in that package,
precisely so that this is easy to do. If you find them elsewhere, that's a
bug.

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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 01:47:10PM -0600, Scott Dowdle wrote:
> Depends on what you are modifying. If you are only using the stock Fedora
> repositories and just only using packages from them... then you are making
> a "respin". You don't have to rebrand respins.

You do need trademark permission from the Fedora Council in this case:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#New_combinations_of_unmodified_Fedora_software

Normally this is done through a Change proposal in conjunction with
proposing that the spin be produced in Fedora infrastructure and etc. But it
would be possible to do in your own infrastructure as well.


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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-12 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings,

- Original Message -
> I'm definitely making a remix then. Installing fedora-remix-logos 
> inside the image was pretty easy. But since I'm modifying the original 
> image instead of building my own, I have one more question: I probably 
> have to uninstall the official logos as well, right? I.e. uninstall the
> "fedora-logos" package. Is there something else I would have to take
> care of?

In the past they had a Generic-logos package, and I haven't tried the newer 
one... but if it is like in the past, there is a conflict with the fedora-logos 
package and when you install one, it'll remove the other.

So, you ARE NOT building your own?  Why not?  How are you building it then?  I 
make my own personal remixes that I don't really publicly promote or 
distribute, and I don't bother to rebrand... but I do "build" it with 
livecd-creator or more recently, with livemedia-creator.

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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-12 Thread T-vK T-vK
Thank you very much for the quick response! I'm definitely making a remix then. 
Installing fedora-remix-logos inside the image was pretty easy. But since I'm 
modifying the original image instead of building my own, I have one more 
question: I probably have to uninstall the official logos as well, right? I.e. 
uninstall the "fedora-logos" package. Is there something else I would have to 
take care of?

Best regards
T-vK
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[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Do I have to remove the Fedora logos when redistributing a modified version of a Fedora ISO?

2022-04-12 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings,

- Original Message -
> I’m thinking about redistributing a slightly modified version of the
> official Fedora 34 ISO.
> Do I have to modify the ISO and remove all Fedora logos and replace
> them with the Fedora Remix Logo? And if so, is there a list of file
> locations that I have to take care of?

Depends on what you are modifying.  If you are only using the stock Fedora 
repositories and just only using packages from them... then you are making a 
"respin".  You don't have to rebrand respins.

If you are using third-party software from outside of the stock Fedora 
repositories, they you are making a "remix" and remixes should not keep the 
Fedora branding.  What do you replace?  Basically you have two options.  You 
can build your own logos package and install that instead of the Fedora logos 
packages... OR... if you aren't going to provide your own logos package... you 
can use the fedora-remix-logos package which they made for that purpose.

OR AT LEAST that is my NON-official answer as I'm not an official 
representative from Fedora.  I'm guessing someone will correct me if my info is 
outdated.

TYL,
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