Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] osm in flickr

2008-08-12 Thread 80n
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  From:
  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
  --
  A new version of this license is available. You should use it for new
  works, and you may want to relicense existing works under it. No works
  are
  automatically put under the new license, however.
  --
 
 

 This is direct from the CC site, and implies that they do not believe that
 there is an automatic upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0


Well, they (Yahoo!) haven't automatically upgraded it.  They have taken our
CC-BY-SA 2.0 licensed work and manually republished it under a new, but
compatible license.  It is their copy that is licensed under 3.0, ours is
still 2.0.  The 2.0 license allows them to do this.

What nobody can do is wave a magic wand and say that all copies are now
CC-BY-SA 3.0.  That's what I believe CC mean by  saying that there is no
automatic upgrade.

Best switch this thread to legal-talk, if you want to discuss further.
80n




 Cheers,
 Mungewell.


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] EU Corinne dataset in the Public Domain

2008-08-12 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
I resend my message to legal talk where I suppose it better belongs.


Edoardo Marascalchi wrote:

 Riverlab (aka Davide) pointed me to the Corine Land Cover dataset from 
 the UE-EEA agency. 
 Davide asked me about the licence.. i looked at the page: 
 http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=1007


I had a quick look on Corine land cover data and I think that the downloadable
datasets are interesting and might be partly usable for OSM project.
Corine brochure can be found here:
http://terrestrial.eionet.europa.eu/CLC2000/docs/publications/corinescreen.pdf
 
When it comes to OSM, an European wide image with 100 meter pixel size
showing classified land use could be useful:
http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=1010
 
For easy data import the corresponding vector data set would be preferred:
http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=950
 
Now the question is if these data can be used. These is this document
about terms of use:
http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/termsofuse.asp
 
Then in another place you can read:
The information available in these data is under copyright of the
EEA and within the public domain. Public domain information in this
these data may be used free of charge, provided the source is acknowledged.
The acknowledgement should read (c) EEA, Copenhagen, [year]
 
And a third version:
EEA grants free access to all its data/applications provided that
the user agrees not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes
unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so to and provided
that the user agrees to display a link to the EEA web site
http://www.eea.europa.eu and to acknowledge the source as follows:
Copyright EEA, Copenhagen, 2007.
 
So confusingly the data are of public domain variety that is not open
for commersial? How about OSM, is it commercial or not?
 
I guess here is place for yet another never ending legal talk. Perhaps
it would be best if someone from the Foundation just makes a telephone
call to EEA and asks if it is OK to use the data in OSM or not.
 
Jukka Rahkonen

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