Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Maxspeed tags in Australia
Hendrik wrote There is the possibility to declare a changeset als OK Hi Hendrik, In this case it is essential to actually get rid of the maxspeed tags. The bot used a completly wrong algorithm and the data is dangerously wrong. Just today I drove down a high traffic road where OSM (curtesy of the bot) had the wrong max speed). So long as the DWG can remove the bots work without removing subsequent good edits to that way then I think they should do it now. Failing this I would love the OSM inspector to be able to ignore these edits so thay I can see what actual damage will occur to the OSM data and hopefully prevent it. Cheers Nick ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Maxspeed tags in Australia
Hi, On 01/06/12 11:38, Nick Hocking wrote: In this case it is essential to actually get rid of the maxspeed tags. The bot used a completly wrong algorithm and the data is dangerously wrong. Just today I drove down a high traffic road where OSM (curtesy of the bot) had the wrong max speed). It is possible to remove these bot contributions without affecting later edits. The OSM inspector would then, after a while, pick up the fact that the current version of the object retains no properties that were added by the license disagreer, and mark the objects as harmless (unless there are other problems). Is there a consensus in the Australian communitiy that these tags are worthless and should be removed? Bye Frederik ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Maxspeed tags in Australia
Frederik wrote Is there a consensus in the Australian communitiy that these tags are worthless and should be removed How many votes do I need :-) The extent of the Australian community is unclear to me due to recent problems. However these edits will have to be removed eventually since both bot owners have made it 100% clear that they will not change from decliners to acceptors, and even if they did their bot edits could be reapplied. The bottom line is that, in order to visualise what roads need remapping now, to save some good edit's information and to prevent major map degredation if roads or connections disappear, it is necessary to see below the maxspeed edits. I can see only two ways to do this. 1) Remove the edits. 2) Get OSM Inspector to ignore them. Either way would be equally good for me to allow me to prepare well for licence changeover. Nick ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Maxspeed tags in Australia
Hi, On 01/06/12 12:08, Nick Hocking wrote: Is there a consensus in the Australian communitiy that these tags are worthless and should be removed How many votes do I need :-) Well, nobody shouting stop, stop, these tags are useful to me! would already be a start. I can see only two ways to do this. 1) Remove the edits. 2) Get OSM Inspector to ignore them. Both will require that we identify all the changesets first. Can you sketch the selection criteria in natural language? Something like all changesets between X and Y in the Z bounding box by user(s) ABC that have more than N edits and a comment text of T and where all edits are adding a maxspeed tag or whatever. Bye Frederik ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Maxspeed tags in Australia
Frederik wrote Well, nobody shouting stop, stop, these tags are useful to me! would already be a start. Although the usefullness(or correctness) of these tags is not being discussed in talk-au, there appears to be a concensus (7-0) about removing them now. Tomorrow and Sunday, I'll trawl through their changesets to identify each and every one. It'll take about 10 or so hours (I think) to accurately pin them all down, so I'll have to fit it in around some other activities. Nick ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk