Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: using OSM in our commercial application

2012-05-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
What if I am selling an application that uses OSM tiles for background, and
users of the application can put their data over the background. So, I am
distributing the application with the osm tiles, but users aren't
distributing their data.

Does this mean that they can do that, until they decide to put their data
with the tiles online?

Thanks,
Janko.

2012/5/15 Mayeul Kauffmann mayeul.kauffm...@free.fr

 Hi,

 Le dimanche 13 mai 2012 à 18:47 +0400, Алексей Бадьянов a écrit :
  Dear legal talkers,
 
  we are currently developing Scheduling software that should show vehicle
 routes and GPS positions on the map.
  Can we use Open Street Map for this in case we are not opening the
 sources to the public?

 The question seems clear enough to me.
 Please note that this is not a legal advice (just a forum of users).

 You will find answers to many of your questions here:
 http://http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ
 In particular:
 If I have data derived from OSM data, do I have to distribute it?
 The licence does not force you to distribute or make any data available.
 But if you do choose to distribute it, or anything derived from it, it
 must be under the same licence terms as the OSM data.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Common_licence_interpretations
 I want to use OSM data with my GPS routing/mapping/other application.
 Do I have licence the application under the OSM licence?
 If the application is separate and independent, you do not need to
 licence it under the OSM licence. However, if you distribute OSM derived
 data with the application, that must be distributed under the OSM
 licence.  (note the warning: The interpretations expressed on this
 page are the opinions of their contributors, and may be disputed by some
 OSM mappers and copyright holders.)


 My understanding is as follows:
 Probably, for your application, you are going to do two things:
 1- build a software (copyrights and license are not at all affected by
 the fact that you use OSM data). When you say the sources, if you mean
 the source code of the application, then you are in this case: just use
 OSM data without giving away your application source code. The licence
 is meant to facilitate commercial uses of the data.

 2- convert/transform/improve OSM data for your application. As long as
 the new data remains within your company, data rights are not at all
 affected by the fact that you use OSM data, so you do not have to give
 anything. If you distribute modified/combined data, then there are some
 cases where you'll have to give some rights to the recipients of the
 data (but it is not possible to say more from what you say).

 Hope this helps,
 Mayeul

 
  many thanks for you help
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: using OSM in our commercial application

2012-05-16 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 05/16/2012 12:39 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:

What if I am selling an application that uses OSM tiles for background,
and users of the application can put their data over the background. So,
I am distributing the application with the osm tiles, but users aren't
distributing their data.

Does this mean that they can do that


Sure.

Bye
Frederik

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