Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Wiki Mapia Mass Upload

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Collinson
Thanks.  I have now written to their contact email address asking them 
to comply with our license or remove the data. I will report back on 
what transpires.


Mike

Michael Collinson
License Working Group


On 15/09/2013 16:54, Walter Nordmann wrote:

got some:
New from  18. August 2013:
http://wikimapia.org/28575157/de/Hummelsbütteler-Kirchenweg-15
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/171350548/history

And another new one with an error at the upper right corner
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2423349643

from the german forum:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=362179#p362179


Regards
walter





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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License / Copyright - OSM data for commercial use artistic map

2013-10-22 Thread Paul Norman
OpenLayers is very distinct from any map layers. OpenLayers is a piece of 
software, a map layer is generally a set of images.

 

I don’t see OpenLayers in use on the site you linked at all. Assuming the 
Papercraft map linked there is using recent ODbL data, there needs to be an 
attribution statement on the paper, and if they’re adding data to their local 
copy of the OSM dataset before rendering, they’d need to license that under the 
ODbL. As a practical matter, I highly doubt anyone would add data to their 
local copy for a low-zoom map of Stockholm. This doesn’t mean that they have to 
release the software they’re using to render the map, to display it in such a 
weird way, or to release their cartography.

 

From: Beri Dániel [mailto:daniel.b...@evk.hu] 
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:25 AM
To: Jonathan Harley
Cc: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License / Copyright - OSM data for commercial use 
artistic map

 

Hi Jonathan!

Thank you very much for clearing things up, and explaining the difference 
between the treatment of data sets and other things I would put on the map.

The treatment of OSM data, and the alteration of it is fine, understood, and 
obviuosly I can live with it.

Although, the licensing/copyright of the layer which I would ask my programmer 
to define in OpenLayers and which then would be filled with images is still a 
bit fuzzy. Aren't these two statements opposite to each other:

1.  OpenLayers uses the FreeBSD license which places no limitations on use 
other than that you must distribute it with its license intact.
2.  you can retain all rights on your other data, images and published 
maps

What would Point1 include in itself? Maybe I misunderstood the whole concept of 
the word layer. I thought that the visual outlook of the map what makes it 
a map, what people see (and in may case consists of the collection of images 
put together) is on a layer and hence should be distributed accordingly?

This would imply that I could I ask the author of this projec 
http://nordpil.com/go/products/stockholm-papercraft/ t to distribute the 
layer he defined? (Obviously I don't want to, as I cheer for Point2 to be true 
in case of my project as well :)

Thanks in advance again!

Daniel

 

 

On 21 October 2013 11:25, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:

On 19/10/13 11:11, Beri Dániel wrote:


Dear All,

I would like you to have a look at my question I posted in the OSM forum 
yesterday. It is not an urgent matter, I'm duplicating it here as well because 
I would like to avoid any mistreatment of the OSM licenses.

Below you can read my post from the forum, or just simply have a look at it in 
the forum itself: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=22948


Thanks in advance!

Daniel

 

Hi Dániel, overall your project does sound like what's presented to users would 
be a produced work and there is no problem with commercial use. AFAIK 
OpenLayers uses the FreeBSD license which places no limitations on use other 
than that you must distribute it with its license intact.

The only part which would constitute a derivative database is your altered OSM 
data (point 2). This altered data will clearly be derived from OSM's data and 
you would need to publish this under ODbL. If you store the data about where 
your users live (point 5) in a database, and if this data is derived from the 
OSM map (users drop a pin on your map based on what they see on it, or where 
the OSM-based search server said they are), then this is also a derivative 
database and must also be made available under ODbL.

Note that a database here just means a data set - the set of data that was 
derived from OSM. The ODbL license does not extend virally to any other data 
sets you may happen to store in the same database management system. The 
derived data is the only thing you must distribute freely (if asked to), and 
you can retain all rights on your other data, images and published maps.

HTH - Jonathan





Dear All,

This might have been discussed several times, hence sorry for raising this 
question again, but I really would like to make sure that I'm in compliance 
with the rules of the OSM license. (Also, I'm not a programmer, so, sorry for 
formulating the details of my envisaged project with lack/inproper use of the 
programming jargon.)

So, here is the list of things I am planning to do:

I would like to create an artistic map

1) *based on OSM data* - I would need a world map, with territories of 
countries and potentially subdivisions as well
2) *I would alter the OSM data* by defining new, custom subdivisions in certain 
areas, like cutting half a country (or continent, like Antarctica) not along 
any currently available line, but according to my wish
3) I would like to *put copyrighted images* onto these subdivisions (with 
OpenLayers)
4) I would *remove uneccessary detail by not rendering some types of features*, 
ie. I don't want any other data to