Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Imagery CC-BY-NC 4.0 + OSM Specific allowance
On Saturday 21 January 2017, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: > > We are working with an imagery provider who is going to release some > of their imagery under cc-by-nc 4.0, and with a specific allowance > for it to be used for digitizing into OSM. Our general aim should be to get image providers to release their imagery as open data. If that fails we can of course also use images with any other license if this license specifically allows the use in OSM. However care should be taken that the mapper is in a solid situation when using the data independent of the question if his/her work actually makes it into the main OSM database. In the past this has often been a problem with specific permissions for restricted access data. License terms or terms of use of a service should not require mappers to take additional legal risks. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Imagery CC-BY-NC 4.0 + OSM Specific allowance
Greetings, We are working with an imagery provider who is going to release some of their imagery under cc-by-nc 4.0, and with a specific allowance for it to be used for digitizing into OSM. Their main goal as I understand it, is to make sure their imagery is cc-by-nc 4.0, but they are fine if it is digitized into OSM, knowing full well the digitized data is released under ODbL 1.0 and understanding how OSM provides attribution. Does anyone see any problem with this, or have specific suggestions to make sure their OSM specific allowance is clear enough? Cheers blake -- Blake Girardot Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team skype: jblakegirardot HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Series of maps for Angola
Hi Christoph, Thanks for the response. I reviewed the substantial guidelines, and I feel that it would be substantial as if I used it for one admin line, I'd want to use it for the entire country. And as you say below, that if I use my own source of admin boundaries to form language polygons overlaid on the OSM boundaries, they will have mismatches. I compared what we currently have with Angola, and there are many places where our boundaries and OSM boundaries already coincide, but there are quite a few places where they differ. I'll keep looking into how I might be able to turn off/only download background without OSM admin boundaries to see if it is possible. Thanks, Marcus -Original Message- From: Christoph Hormann [mailto:chris_horm...@gmx.de] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:13 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Series of maps for Angola On Friday 20 January 2017, Marcus Love wrote: > I was > thinking, that if I use OSM as a background, that I could edit the > language polygons that we have to follow along OSM admin boundaries > where they coincide. However, if I do that, would it then make those > polygons that I've edited a 'derivative database'? Probably yes, this depends on the extent to which you make use of OSM data in your proprietary data set. See also: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline If you'd just adjust your polygons at a handful of places to fix major mismatches that would normally be considered insubstantial. > If that isn't possible to adapt our language polygons to OSM admin > boundaries without it becoming a derivative database, then we would > use another source for the admin boundaries. Is it possible to use an > OSM background and turn off/toggle the admin boundaries for the > basemap? Otherwise, we will have language boundaries which will be > slightly off the OSM admin boundaries, and wouldn't look that great > and might be confusing on the map. If you render an OSM based map without OSM based admin boundaries and add admin boundaries from a different source you have no derivative database, see: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline Note however in such a map you would then simply have other mismatches, i.e. between the admin boundaries and OSM based basemap features instead of between the admin boundaries and your special thematic layer. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Series of maps for Angola
On Friday 20 January 2017, Marcus Love wrote: > I was > thinking, that if I use OSM as a background, that I could edit the > language polygons that we have to follow along OSM admin boundaries > where they coincide. However, if I do that, would it then make those > polygons that I've edited a 'derivative database'? Probably yes, this depends on the extent to which you make use of OSM data in your proprietary data set. See also: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline If you'd just adjust your polygons at a handful of places to fix major mismatches that would normally be considered insubstantial. > If that isn't possible to adapt our language polygons to OSM admin > boundaries without it becoming a derivative database, then we would > use another source for the admin boundaries. Is it possible to use an > OSM background and turn off/toggle the admin boundaries for the > basemap? Otherwise, we will have language boundaries which will be > slightly off the OSM admin boundaries, and wouldn't look that great > and might be confusing on the map. If you render an OSM based map without OSM based admin boundaries and add admin boundaries from a different source you have no derivative database, see: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline Note however in such a map you would then simply have other mismatches, i.e. between the admin boundaries and OSM based basemap features instead of between the admin boundaries and your special thematic layer. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Series of maps for Angola
To whom it may concern, I work with SIL International keeping language maps for the Ethnologue up-to-date for countries in Africa. We are in the process of making a series of language maps by province in Angola in coordination with the government of Angola. We are considering using OSM as a background for our maps. In a way this is a test for us to see how using OSM could work as a basemap for a future dynamic online map with all of our language polygons around the world. As far as I'm aware, it shouldn't be a problem to use OSM as a background with our own surveyed language data overlaying it. As long as we give proper credit to OSM. In that case, it would be a 'collective database'. The issue that we do have though, is portraying accurate administrative boundaries. For the most part, and currently in Angola, we use boundaries derived from old DCW data, which isn't the most accurate. Often language boundaries coincide with administrative boundaries, so having accurate boundaries is important. I was thinking, that if I use OSM as a background, that I could edit the language polygons that we have to follow along OSM admin boundaries where they coincide. However, if I do that, would it then make those polygons that I've edited a 'derivative database'? If so, then I think we can't do that, as we would need to retain the copyright, so that others wouldn't be free to change the polygons themselves. If that isn't possible to adapt our language polygons to OSM admin boundaries without it becoming a derivative database, then we would use another source for the admin boundaries. Is it possible to use an OSM background and turn off/toggle the admin boundaries for the basemap? Otherwise, we will have language boundaries which will be slightly off the OSM admin boundaries, and wouldn't look that great and might be confusing on the map. Thanks, Marcus Love Mapping Specialist - Africa area AIM Mapping Information Services SIL International ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
