[liberationtech] Mixed methods Internet research

2013-03-06 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Christine Hine christine.h...@btinternet.com

I'm currently writing a review article on mixed methods Internet research,
and I'd really appreciate suggestions I might have overlooked of examples
where researchers combine qualitative and quantitative methods, or
large-scale and small-scale research designs in understanding Internet
phenomenon. I'm looking, for example, for instances where researchers
combine analysis of log file data, or twitter traffic etc with an in-depth
ethnographic or interview-based study. I'm also interested in mixed mode
studies, which combine online and offline research or use both born-digital
data and studies rooted in offline settings to answer a single research
question. Any suggestions gratefully received - I'm happy to take replies
offlist and then share the outcomes with the list.

Best wishes,

Christine
Christine Hine
Department of Sociology
University of Surrey
Guildford, Surrey, GU2 7NX, UK
c.h...@surrey.ac.uk
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Re: [liberationtech] Mixed methods Internet research

2013-03-06 Thread Katy P
To toot my own horn, here's a study I did last year
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1460-2466.2012.01633.x/full



On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.eduwrote:

 From: Christine Hine christine.h...@btinternet.com

 I'm currently writing a review article on mixed methods Internet research,
 and I'd really appreciate suggestions I might have overlooked of examples
 where researchers combine qualitative and quantitative methods, or
 large-scale and small-scale research designs in understanding Internet
 phenomenon. I'm looking, for example, for instances where researchers
 combine analysis of log file data, or twitter traffic etc with an in-depth
 ethnographic or interview-based study. I'm also interested in mixed mode
 studies, which combine online and offline research or use both born-digital
 data and studies rooted in offline settings to answer a single research
 question. Any suggestions gratefully received - I'm happy to take replies
 offlist and then share the outcomes with the list.

 Best wishes,

 Christine
 Christine Hine
 Department of Sociology
 University of Surrey
 Guildford, Surrey, GU2 7NX, UK
 c.h...@surrey.ac.uk
 
 https://email.surrey.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=ef59d54d448441028a5438f2cc7ca03
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[liberationtech] F2C Videos are up!

2013-03-06 Thread Yosem Companys
From: David S. Isenberg i...@isen.com

Thanks to the Internet Society, especially Joly McFie, Paul Brigner,
Paul Hyland and Paul Franz, the approximately complete video
archive of F2C: Freedom to Connect for 2013 is now up at
http://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/f2c for your viewing
pleasure and/or convenient surveillance.

If you were not able to come, we hope to see you next year!
If you were able to come, please stay tuned to the attendee-only
list for important exclusive information critical to the protection
of the free, open Internet. [Non-attendees may obtain a copy of
a completely legal image of the entire proceedings from
ATT, Room 641A, 611 Folsom Street, San Francisco CA 94107.]

If you care about the free, open Internet -- and media democracy
in general -- you will not want to miss the National Conference
for Media Reform in Denver, April 4-7. I'm going. Wouldn't miss
it.

http://conference.freepress.net/ncmr-2013

Check out some of the amazing speakers! (F2C should be so lucky.)
http://conference.freepress.net/presenters

CU@F2C14 if we can keep the Internet open for one more year!
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Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking LibTech Community

2013-03-06 Thread a . nouvet
I'd be interested to join.

Saludos,
Antoine


 If there is enough interest, we could create a Spanish-speaking list.
 I would like that, as a native Spanish speaker myself, with an
 interest in Liberationtech issues in Spain and Latin America.

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 wrote:
 Hello there!

 I don't know how many others spanish-speaking people are there, but
 I'm a spaniard living in Madrid, we can get in touch =) I'm the lead
 developer of agoravoting.com, an e-democracy voting tool with support
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Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking LibTech Community

2013-03-06 Thread Sandra
Yah esta :)

On 3/6/13 2:17 PM, Daniel H. Cabrera wrote:
 interesado
  
 Daniel H. Cabrera Altieri
 Profesor Titular de Teoría de la Comunicación
 Coordinador del Grado en Periodismo

 Facultad de Filosofía y Letras
 Universidad de Zaragoza
 Te. (34) 976761000 ext. 4043
 c/ Pedro Cerbuna 12 - Zaragoza- 50009
 España



 
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 *Para:* liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
 *CC:* sandraordo...@openitp.org
 *Enviado:* Miércoles 6 de marzo de 2013 17:40
 *Asunto:* Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking
 LibTech Community

 I'd be interested to join.

 Saludos,
 Antoine


  If there is enough interest, we could create a Spanish-speaking list.
  I would like that, as a native Spanish speaker myself, with an
  interest in Liberationtech issues in Spain and Latin America.
 
  On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Eduardo Robles Elvira
 edu...@wadobo.com mailto:edu...@wadobo.com
  wrote:
  Hello there!
 
  I don't know how many others spanish-speaking people are there, but
  I'm a spaniard living in Madrid, we can get in touch =) I'm the lead
  developer of agoravoting.com, an e-democracy voting tool with support
  for vote delegation.
 
  Regards,
  --
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 it's wadobo!
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Re: [liberationtech] Can HAM radio be used for communication between health workers in rural areas with no cell connectivity?

2013-03-06 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
I'm assuming privacy issues are of minimal concern given the other problems
at play here - I could be wrong but bear with me.

Trying to think of lowest-cost, reliable, easiest to expand and re-deploy
without a telco or other licensing.

I wonder is a low-bandwidth text HF APRS (
http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html) option with a laminated deck of
shorthand medical terms would be a reasonable remote field option? About
as rudimentary as you get but considering a worst case scenario - it might
just work. -Ali



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Sky (Jim Schuyler) s...@red7.com wrote:

 Since HAM (amateur radio) is real radio, not phone, an Android app
 wouldn't use it directly. The app might -control- an amateur radio
 remotely, and there is software available to do this. However, I'm not sure
 what benefit it would bring to this project.

 In the US, amateur radio operators must send all information in clear
 text, and encryption is illegal, thus you would not want to try to
 exchange medical info because you'd need to encrypt it. In other countries
 it -should- be illegal to transmit medical info in the clear, so I'd
 suggest avoiding this.

 Also, high frequency amateur radio doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to
 transfer much digital information. VHF/UHF does in theory, but in general
 amateur radio operators restrict their bandwidth and the maximum usable
 transfer rate is under 9600 baud. i.e. very slow.

 -Sky  AA6AX

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 On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:47 PM, ITechGeek i...@itechgeek.com wrote:

 Depends on what information you might be transmitting and the specific
 laws of the local country/countries involved.

 HAMs have to be licensed through the local countries licensing
 authority (in the case of the US would be the FCC).

 Under US you could probably get away with allowing them to coordinate
 if it is non-profit in nature, but you would not be able to discuss
 any medical information that would allow a third party to possibly
 identify the patient.

 And some countries are very restrictive on who can get HAM licenses
 due to the potential to get around their propaganda controls.  Also
 rules can change based on frequencies being used cause lower
 frequencies can transmit further.

 Can you provide the country or countries involved?


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 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu
 wrote:

 From: Dr. Tusharkanti Dey dr.tusharkanti...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 I am proposing to set up a ICT based health project in tribal areas with
 poor infrastructural facilities with poor cell phone connectivity due to
 unstable signal strengths. i have learnt that HAM radio software from
 HamSphere is downloadable on android phones.I would like to know whether
 these android phones with HAM radio software installed can be used for
 communication used for voice communication between health workers
 themselves and with head quarter staff. Will it be legally permissible and
 what technical requirements will be needed to set up such system. The other
 alternative of setting up of mobile signal boosters or long distance WiFi
 hubs are currently not affordable to our limited resource organisation

 Thanks,
 Dr.Tusharkanti Dey
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Re: [liberationtech] Can HAM radio be used for communication between health workers in rural areas with no cell connectivity?

2013-03-06 Thread Sky (Jim Schuyler)
Your APRS idea is interesting and I only know it from the positioning side, 
not from passing any text, so you may want to continue looking into it. I do 
not know that APRS is currently passing any traffic other than positions, at 
least as used in the US. I also do not know whether it's used outside the US. 
Please do remember that APRS and most other amateur digital service are not 
designed to be reliable which means they may not try again to pass a 
message and the message may become garbled in transmission. Some do attempt to 
error-correct, but not most.

Some more observations on your criteria:

Low-cost: maybe. Each operator has to have equipment which generally runs 
USD$500 to many thousands. Also Android is low cost if you have some kind of 
connection to the radio operator. So the last mile or first mile depending 
on how you look at it, is not expensive. But you said tribal areas, so I don't 
know what your challenges would be on that count.

Reliable: amateur radio has varying reliability, and it is easily interfered 
with if someone wants to do that. In planning emergency operations we take into 
account that there may be malicious interference even during an emergency. Even 
most amateur radio digital protocols do not have very robust error-correction, 
so they're a bit iffy.

Easiest to expand: maybe and maybe not. You have to have a stable of radio 
operators available both locally and remotely. (Presuming you want information 
to go from somewhere to somewhere.)

Without a telco: Yes for the amateur portion at least.

Without licensing: Although I encourage folks to become amateur radio 
operators, they do need to be licensed. The government that giveth it can 
taketh it away at the stroke of a pen. I will skip saying more right now.

Also I note in your original statement that you are talking about tribal 
areas with poor connectivity. Your challenge is going to be getting your 
signal from the tribal area to a reliable amateur radio operator. That's unless 
the radio operator is already in the tribal area. If the cell phone can's 
connect, then amateur VHF and UHF probably wouldn't work either, so you'd have 
to rely upon HF with longer range but much greater variability in terms of 
signal propagation.
 


Keep in mind that amateur radio is a point-to-point service subject to the 
vagaries of radio propagation. In other words, there is no reliable path 24/7 
from one point to another unless you're using prearranged VHF or UHF 
frequencies and line of sight propagation. Commonly for emergency ops we 
arrange all of this in advance and have emergency power and operators trained, 
and frequencies and modes chosen. For HF propagation there is no guarantee your 
message will get through because the bands may be dead.

We've been thinking here (San Francisco) of linking amateur packet radio with 
local mesh wi-fi (see Byzantium Project for example) to transfer some traffic 
in semi-automated ways during emergency, but this is a long way from actual 
implementation. The Byzantium folks are on this list and can comment.

HF: high frequency (meaning roughly 1mHz to many gHz, which is reliant upon 
ionospheric conditions for signal propagation
VHF: very high frequency (generally 100mHz to 150mHz) line of sight mostly, 
with repeaters being generally used
UHF: ultra… (generally 200mHz and up) line of sight mostly, and repeaters
APRS: Automatic Packet Reporting System (a digital position-reportig protocol 
used on certain amateur frequencies)

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On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:

 I'm assuming privacy issues are of minimal concern given the other problems 
 at play here - I could be wrong but bear with me.
 
 Trying to think of lowest-cost, reliable, easiest to expand and re-deploy 
 without a telco or other licensing.
 
 I wonder is a low-bandwidth text HF APRS 
 (http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html) option with a laminated deck of 
 shorthand medical terms would be a reasonable remote field option? About as 
 rudimentary as you get but considering a worst case scenario - it might just 
 work. -Ali
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Sky (Jim Schuyler) s...@red7.com wrote:
 Since HAM (amateur radio) is real radio, not phone, an Android app wouldn't 
 use it directly. The app might -control- an amateur radio remotely, and there 
 is software available to do this. However, I'm not sure what benefit it would 
 bring to this project.
 
 In the US, amateur radio operators must send all information in clear text, 
 and encryption is illegal, thus you would not want to try to exchange medical 
 info because you'd need to encrypt it. In other countries it -should- be 
 illegal to transmit medical info in the clear, so I'd suggest 

Re: [liberationtech] F2C Videos are up!

2013-03-06 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hey, thanks!
I'll do my best to further promulgate these. 
BTW, I had not been aware of the Denver conference. It's likely too late for me 
to go, but will track it, if possible, with the aid of the free Internet. :-)

Cheers
louis


On 13-03-06, at 11:29 , Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote:

 From: David S. Isenberg i...@isen.com
 
 Thanks to the Internet Society, especially Joly McFie, Paul Brigner,
 Paul Hyland and Paul Franz, the approximately complete video
 archive of F2C: Freedom to Connect for 2013 is now up at
 http://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/f2c for your viewing
 pleasure and/or convenient surveillance.
 
 If you were not able to come, we hope to see you next year!
 If you were able to come, please stay tuned to the attendee-only
 list for important exclusive information critical to the protection
 of the free, open Internet. [Non-attendees may obtain a copy of
 a completely legal image of the entire proceedings from
 ATT, Room 641A, 611 Folsom Street, San Francisco CA 94107.]
 
 If you care about the free, open Internet -- and media democracy
 in general -- you will not want to miss the National Conference
 for Media Reform in Denver, April 4-7. I'm going. Wouldn't miss
 it.
 
 http://conference.freepress.net/ncmr-2013
 
 Check out some of the amazing speakers! (F2C should be so lucky.)
 http://conference.freepress.net/presenters
 
 CU@F2C14 if we can keep the Internet open for one more year!
 David I
 --
 203-661-4798 (main number, follows me everywhere)
 888-isen.com (toll free)
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Re: [liberationtech] Can HAM radio be used for communication between health workers in rural areas with no cell connectivity?

2013-03-06 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Howdy AA6AX,

Nice to meet you.

On 6 Mar 2013, at 21:09, Sky (Jim Schuyler) wrote:

 Your APRS idea is interesting and I only know it from the positioning side, 
 not from passing any text, so you may want to continue looking into it. I do 
 not know that APRS is currently passing any traffic other than positions, at 
 least as used in the US. I also do not know whether it's used outside the US. 
 Please do remember that APRS and most other amateur digital service are not 
 designed to be reliable which means they may not try again to pass a 
 message and the message may become garbled in transmission. Some do attempt 
 to error-correct, but not most.

Not strictly true. APRS clients can be configured to send messages and retry 
for X attempts. Then it will give up.

Seeing as SMS transmission isn't even guaranteed, I think its a pretty good 
attempt for a system that has been developed totally for free! :)


 Even most amateur radio digital protocols do not have very robust 
 error-correction, so they're a bit iffy.

That is true.

 Easiest to expand: maybe and maybe not. You have to have a stable of radio 
 operators available both locally and remotely. (Presuming you want 
 information to go from somewhere to somewhere.)

If as Dr. Dey requested both sides of the communications were between health 
workers and their HQ, you could train up all the health workers and possibly 
even employ a net controller (amateur radio lingo for person who sits in HQ 
and is in contact with all the field posts) to co-ordinate communications.


 Without licensing: Although I encourage folks to become amateur radio 
 operators, they do need to be licensed. The government that giveth it can 
 taketh it away at the stroke of a pen. I will skip saying more right now.

I agree. I'd go a bit further even and say a restricted licence now-adays is 
trivial to receive.


 Also I note in your original statement that you are talking about tribal 
 areas with poor connectivity. Your challenge is going to be getting your 
 signal from the tribal area to a reliable amateur radio operator. That's 
 unless the radio operator is already in the tribal area. If the cell phone 
 can's connect, then amateur VHF and UHF probably wouldn't work either, so 
 you'd have to rely upon HF with longer range but much greater variability in 
 terms of signal propagation.

How much can you build a self-sustaining 2M VHF repeater for now-a-days? :)


 Keep in mind that amateur radio is a point-to-point service subject to the 
 vagaries of radio propagation. In other words, there is no reliable path 24/7 
 from one point to another unless you're using prearranged VHF or UHF 
 frequencies and line of sight propagation. Commonly for emergency ops we 
 arrange all of this in advance and have emergency power and operators 
 trained, and frequencies and modes chosen. For HF propagation there is no 
 guarantee your message will get through because the bands may be dead.

Which is kinda similar when it comes to mobile networks. If it was possible to 
get a telco to carry out some corporate social responsability work and 
install even just 2G voice that would be something.

I would argue, you can get a lot more communications bang for buck with some 
trained amateur radio engineers, and some amateur radio equipment, than spotty 
3G coverage.

Mobile operators work on the premise: when we will make enough money from 
people, we will install equipment. I'd honestly hope they have a different 
business model outside of Europe, but I don't think so.

73's

/Bernard



 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:
 
 I'm assuming privacy issues are of minimal concern given the other problems 
 at play here - I could be wrong but bear with me.
 
 Trying to think of lowest-cost, reliable, easiest to expand and re-deploy 
 without a telco or other licensing.
 
 I wonder is a low-bandwidth text HF APRS 
 (http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html) option with a laminated deck of 
 shorthand medical terms would be a reasonable remote field option? About as 
 rudimentary as you get but considering a worst case scenario - it might just 
 work. -Ali
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Sky (Jim Schuyler) s...@red7.com wrote:
 Since HAM (amateur radio) is real radio, not phone, an Android app 
 wouldn't use it directly. The app might -control- an amateur radio remotely, 
 and there is software available to do this. However, I'm not sure what 
 benefit it would bring to this project.
 
 In the US, amateur radio operators must send all information in clear 
 text, and encryption is illegal, thus you would not want to try to exchange 
 medical info because you'd need to encrypt it. In other countries it 
 -should- be illegal to transmit medical info in the clear, so I'd suggest 
 avoiding this.
 
 Also, high frequency amateur radio doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to 
 transfer much digital 

Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking LibTech Community

2013-03-06 Thread Robert Guerra
Aqui presente y interesado en contectar con otros hispanhablantes activo en el 
tema...

(here and interested in connecting with other spanish speakers active on this 
issue)

Robert

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On 2013-03-05, at 11:56 AM, Sandra ordonez wrote:

 Looking to connect for Spanish-speaking LibTech community members for a 
 community initiative. Please reach out to sandraordonez [@] openitp [dot] org 
 ---
 Estoy tratando de conectar con hispanohablantes para un una iniciativa 
 comunitaria. Por favor, ponerse en contacto con sandraordonez [@] openitp 
 [dot] org
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Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking LibTech Community

2013-03-06 Thread Robert Guerra
Ya existe una lista con enfoque en LAC. Aqui los detalles - 

RedLatAm mailing list
redla...@lists.accessnow.org
https://lists.accessnow.org/listinfo/redlatam

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On 2013-03-06, at 2:44 PM, Sandra wrote:

 Yah esta :) 
 
 On 3/6/13 2:17 PM, Daniel H. Cabrera wrote:
 interesado
  
 Daniel H. Cabrera Altieri
 Profesor Titular de Teoría de la Comunicación
 Coordinador del Grado en Periodismo
 
 Facultad de Filosofía y Letras
 Universidad de Zaragoza
 Te. (34) 976761000 ext. 4043
 c/ Pedro Cerbuna 12 - Zaragoza - 50009
 España
 
 
 
 De: a.nou...@secdev.ca a.nou...@secdev.ca
 Para: liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu 
 CC: sandraordo...@openitp.org 
 Enviado: Miércoles 6 de marzo de 2013 17:40
 Asunto: Re: [liberationtech] Hispanohablantes / Spanish-Speaking LibTech 
 Community
 
 I'd be interested to join.
 
 Saludos,
 Antoine
 
 
  If there is enough interest, we could create a Spanish-speaking list.
  I would like that, as a native Spanish speaker myself, with an
  interest in Liberationtech issues in Spain and Latin America.
 
  On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Eduardo Robles Elvira edu...@wadobo.com
  wrote:
  Hello there!
 
  I don't know how many others spanish-speaking people are there, but
  I'm a spaniard living in Madrid, we can get in touch =) I'm the lead
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Re: [liberationtech] Can HAM radio be used for communication between health workers in rural areas with no cell connectivity?

2013-03-06 Thread Sky (Jim Schuyler)
Thanks, Bernard for the info on APRS. I am out of date as I don't use it.

You are especially right that here in the US it's easy to get a Technician 
license, which is the entry-level amateur license issued by the FCC. It takes 
maybe 3 hours of study and a 30-minute test. I'd guess you have something 
similar in Ireland and most of Europe.

Dr. Dey, could we know the country in which you're considering using this 
approach? That would help us understand the licensing structure there. And also 
the distances you are talking about. Are the tribal areas 20 miles from 
reliable cellular service or are they 200 miles out?

If you prefer to handle it off-list, it looks like there are a few people who 
would be interested.

I am checking this HamSphere that is mentioned, and I don't see that it's 
actually using radio anywhere. It appears to simulate an amateur radio 
station but use the Internet for communication. Not enough time to download and 
test this today.

So in terms of offering even a partial solution, perhaps figuring out whether 
amateur radio could be provided in some inexpensive way to these out-of-the-way 
areas would be of interest. Could locals become licensed? Could radio equipment 
be available at an affordable price? Could itinerant operators do the job on 
motorcycles? Etc. If so, then more complex messages could certainly be 
transmitted and there would be a wider window to the world from the remote 
locations. The original question asked about voice so the fact that I (or 
others) diverted this to digital modes may be, in fact, just a diversion.

The Byzantium Project folks (wi-fi mesh) have some amateur operators among 
their numbers and might also have opinions on how easy it is to get folks 
licensed, and also on edge connections of mesh and other networks to amateurs 
(which is severely limited by law). My take is that even though hams tend to 
think it's easy to get a license, there are significant (maybe psychological) 
barriers to entry. Maybe it's just that mobile phones provide so many of the 
same benefits without the licensure hassle?

Some of the people on this list know how wi-fi can be provisioned over fairly 
long distances using high-gain antennas and mesh software. It seems to me that 
this might be an interesting way to go about getting real Internet 
connectivity. I've been on the list a couple of years and heard only sporadic 
conversation about using long-distance wi-fi as a liberating technology. An 
example of a regional network that I've known since 2005 is airjaldi.com in 
northern India, but I know there are others in Africa, South/East Asia and 
South America. They aren't necessarily formed to liberate people from 
governmental oppression, but they are providing much-needed connections for 
their remote communities.

(Switching back to my proper email address for this reply)

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On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Howdy AA6AX,
 
 Nice to meet you.
 
 On 6 Mar 2013, at 21:09, Sky (Jim Schuyler) wrote:
 
 Your APRS idea is interesting and I only know it from the positioning 
 side, not from passing any text, so you may want to continue looking into 
 it. I do not know that APRS is currently passing any traffic other than 
 positions, at least as used in the US. I also do not know whether it's used 
 outside the US. Please do remember that APRS and most other amateur digital 
 service are not designed to be reliable which means they may not try 
 again to pass a message and the message may become garbled in transmission. 
 Some do attempt to error-correct, but not most.
 
 Not strictly true. APRS clients can be configured to send messages and retry 
 for X attempts. Then it will give up.
 
 Seeing as SMS transmission isn't even guaranteed, I think its a pretty good 
 attempt for a system that has been developed totally for free! :)
 
 
 Even most amateur radio digital protocols do not have very robust 
 error-correction, so they're a bit iffy.
 
 That is true.
 
 Easiest to expand: maybe and maybe not. You have to have a stable of radio 
 operators available both locally and remotely. (Presuming you want 
 information to go from somewhere to somewhere.)
 
 If as Dr. Dey requested both sides of the communications were between health 
 workers and their HQ, you could train up all the health workers and possibly 
 even employ a net controller (amateur radio lingo for person who sits in HQ 
 and is in contact with all the field posts) to co-ordinate communications.
 
 
 Without licensing: Although I encourage folks to become amateur radio 
 operators, they do need to be licensed. The government that giveth it can 
 taketh it away at the stroke of a pen. I will skip saying more right now.
 
 I agree. I'd go a bit further even and say a restricted licence 

[liberationtech] GoodJobs Challenge: Open Data, Jobs, Social Sector

2013-03-06 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Pukar Hamal pcha...@stanford.edu, Sam Spiewak spie...@stanford.edu, 
Bowen Pan bowen...@gsb.stanford.edu, Elizabeth Woodson 
ewood...@stanford.edu

*GoodJobs*

A challenge focused on open data, jobs, and the social sector

GoodJobs invites Stanford students to create mobile and web tools that will 
help young people access social impact jobs.

*Who is behind it?*

   - Stanford Center on Philanthropy and Civil Society
   - White House Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation
   - White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
   - Aspen Institute Impact Careers Initiative 

*Who can participate?*
Any Stanford student who is passionate about social impact! Whether you are 
a graduate or undergrad, have coding and data skills or social sector 
expertise, specialize in marketing or product design, or are just 
interested in participating, you are welcome to register.

*How will it work?*
Teams of 4-6 students from diverse areas of expertise will form prior to 
the event and will have the opportunity to review the data sets ahead of 
time. On April 20th, all the teams will come together at Stanford’s 
d.school to work intensely for a full day fleshing out their ideas, getting 
expert mentoring and input, designing a prototype, and planning their pitch.

*Judges*

   - Aditya Agarwal - VP of Engineering, Dropbox
   - Lucy Bernholz – Visiting Scholar, Stanford Center on Philanthropy and 
   Civil Society
   - Somesh Dash – Principal, Institutional Venture Partners 
   - Jonathan Greenblatt – Director, White House Office of Social Innovation
   - John Lilly – Partner, Greylock Partners
   - Dustin Moskovitz – Co-founder, Facebook
   - (more to be announced)
   

*Register*
http://www.stanford.edu/group/iriss/pacs-forms/goodjobs.fb
 http://www.stanford.edu/group/iriss/pacs-forms/goodjobs.fb

IMPORTANT: enrollment is limited and we will be selecting the best 
applicants. Apply today!

*FAQs  Questions*

   - I have a team in mind, can we register together? Yes.
   - Do I need to have a team already? No, individuals can register and be 
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   - I'm not a coder but I know a lot about the social sector, can I 
   participate? Yes!
   

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[liberationtech] Rich's post on the importance of openness in crypto tech [Subject Was: Cryptography super-group creates]

2013-03-06 Thread Jim Fruchterman
I want to second Nadim's comment.  This is not only terrific, but sums up 
really important knowledge that often seems to be in short supply.  

Please post it, so we can point more people to it.  

Jim

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:44:03 -0500
From: Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc
To: liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
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Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Cryptography super-group creates
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Rich,
That was the best email I have ever read on this mailing list.
Congratulations and thank you. Please post this as a blog post somewhere.


NK


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:35:53PM -0800, Adam Fisk wrote:
  At the risk of getting swept up in this by consciously saying something
  unpopular, I want to put my shoulder against the wheel of the open
 source
  process produces more secure software machine. [snip]

 I've been thinking about your (excellent) comments for several weeks now.
 And I'm going to argue that open source doesn't necessarily produce more
 secure software, but it's a prerequisite for any credible attempt.  And
 that in this particular case, there's just no substitute for it.

 But before I get started, let me pointed out that I'm very much *not*
 arguing that the contrapositive is true, that open source == chewy
 goodness automatically.  We've all seen open source code that was junk.
 Lots of it.  We've all probably written some, too; I know I have.

SNIP

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