Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-22 Thread Mike Fischer
Hi Yosem,

I vote for reply to all / the list.   I can't believe that security 
geeks can't discipline themselves to take half a second to think about who they 
are replying to.   The openness of the reply all default is refreshing.  

Mike


On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:10 AM, Guido Witmond wrote:

 Dear Yosem,
 
 I vote for reply-to-poster.
 
 Your message really points out the problem: You ask us to connect to you, 
 however, the reply button replies to the list.
 
 
 My 2cts. Guido Witmond.
 
 
 
 On 03/21/2013 02:17 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,
 
 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.
  Given the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue
 up for a vote:
 
  * Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?
 
 
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-22 Thread R. Jason Cronk

Can I vote reply-to-null? That would prevent all mishaps.

Seriously though, this presents an interesting display of the trade-offs 
between privacy risks and convenience of use.  Given that the purpose of 
the list is to perpetuate an ongoing discussion, the convenience of 
replying to the entire list seems to outweigh the risk of revealing 
private information.  Optimally, the from header should say 
liberationtech with a inline note at the top identifying the author is. 
This would reduce (though not eliminate) the risk of someone 
misidentifying the intended recipient of their reply. I don't think the 
list software supports such configuration though.


Just as a point of analysis, I've seen distribution lists that were 
intended to be one way (i.e. a few authorized individuals may send out 
messages) but were configured wrong such that replies not only were sent 
to the list, but the list allowed anybody, not just authorized 
individuals, to post. Contextually, this is much different, and the 
analysis would weigh in favor of making such a list reply to sender, not 
reply to all.  However, in those cases, the problem results from a 
misconfiguration not a failure to weight the risks.


My vote reply-to-list.


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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-22 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:21:54PM -0400, R. Jason Cronk wrote:
 Can I vote reply-to-null? That would prevent all mishaps.
 
 Seriously though, this presents an interesting display of the
 trade-offs between privacy risks and convenience of use.  Given that
 the purpose of the list is to perpetuate an ongoing discussion, the
 convenience of replying to the entire list seems to outweigh the
 risk of revealing private information.  Optimally, the from header
 should say liberationtech with a inline note at the top identifying
 the author is. This would reduce (though not eliminate) the risk of
 someone misidentifying the intended recipient of their reply. I
 don't think the list software supports such configuration though.
 
 Just as a point of analysis, I've seen distribution lists that were
 intended to be one way (i.e. a few authorized individuals may send
 out messages) but were configured wrong such that replies not only
 were sent to the list, but the list allowed anybody, not just
 authorized individuals, to post. Contextually, this is much
 different, and the analysis would weigh in favor of making such a
 list reply to sender, not reply to all.  However, in those cases,
 the problem results from a misconfiguration not a failure to weight
 the risks.

Don't people simply need to take responsibility for noting where and to whom
they are sending their emails? Reply-to-sender seems like a very odd default on
a mailing list - more so if implemented to 'protect us from ourselves'.  If I
want to reply to the sender, I will do so, but by default I expect when
subscribed to a mailing list I'm there for the open discussion. 

Society is risky!

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-22 Thread Katherine Maher
Reply to all.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Enrique Piraces pira...@hrw.org wrote:

  Reply to all.

  Best,
 Enrique Piracés
 Human Rights Watch
 https://www.hrw.org
 https://www.twitter.com/epiraces

  On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:

  Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

  Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:

- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

  Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST
 on Sunday, March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time
 will not be counted.

  Thanks,

  Yosem
 One of your moderators

  PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:

- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

  If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list,
 please click on the links below:


 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-22 Thread Lina Srivastava
Reply to all.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Katherine Maher
katherine.ma...@gmail.comwrote:

 Reply to all.

 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Enrique Piraces pira...@hrw.org wrote:

  Reply to all.

  Best,
 Enrique Piracés
 Human Rights Watch
 https://www.hrw.org
 https://www.twitter.com/epiraces

  On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:

  Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

  Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:

- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

  Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST
 on Sunday, March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time
 will not be counted.

  Thanks,

  Yosem
 One of your moderators

  PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:

- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

  If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list,
 please click on the links below:


 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Amin Sabeti
I'd like reply-to-all

On 21 March 2013 09:10, Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl wrote:

 Dear Yosem,

 I vote for reply-to-poster.

 Your message really points out the problem: You ask us to connect to you,
 however, the reply button replies to the list.


 My 2cts. Guido Witmond.




 On 03/21/2013 02:17 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:

 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.
   Given the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue
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   * Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Guilherme Andrade
Reply-to-poster.


Cheers,

On 21/03/13 01:17 , Yosem Companys wrote:
 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.
  Given the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue
 up for a vote:

   * Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
 reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?  

 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST
 on Sunday, March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and
 time will not be counted.

 Thanks,

 Yosem
 One of your moderators

 PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:

   * Reply-to-all considered
 useful: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
   * Reply-to-all considered
 harmful: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list,
 please click on the links below:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Collin Sullivan
I vote for reply-to-list as default.


Yosem Companys:
 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
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- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday,
 March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be
 counted.

 Thanks,

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 PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
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- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please
 click on the links below:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Yosem Companys:
 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,
 
 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:
 
- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

reply-to-all or as one of my mail clients says 'reply-to-list' - it is
useful and it promotes a larger discussion. I find replies offlist to be
rude, sometimes annoying and rarely is such a reply beneficial for the
rest of the group.

All the best,
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Walid AL-SAQAF
reply-to-all

Sincerely,

Walid

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tom Ritter t...@ritter.vg wrote:

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread xek3149
Reply to all (reply to list)

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
Reply to list, if possible.

Kind regards

Paul

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On 21 Mar 2013, at 12:36, Walid AL-SAQAF 
ad...@alkasir.commailto:ad...@alkasir.com
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reply-to-all

Sincerely,

Walid

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Sarah A. Downey
Reply to poster as default. Thanks.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Collin Sullivan coll...@benetech.orgwrote:

 I vote for reply-to-list as default.


 Yosem Companys:
  Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,
 
  Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
  default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.
  Given
  the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
  vote:
 
 - Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
 reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?
 
  Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on
 Sunday,
  March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be
  counted.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Yosem
  One of your moderators
 
  PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
  reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:
 
 - Reply-to-all considered useful:
 http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
 - Reply-to-all considered harmful:
 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 
  If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list,
 please
  click on the links below:
 
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html
 
 
 
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Jillian C. York
reply to list/all.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.eduwrote:

 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:

- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday,
 March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be
 counted.

 Thanks,

 Yosem
 One of your moderators

 PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:

- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please
 click on the links below:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread elham gheytanchi
Reply to all. 
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-Original Message-
From: Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 01:17:39 
To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
Subject: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question


Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,


Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's default 
reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given the debate 
(see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a vote: 

* Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to 
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?  

Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday, 
March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be 
counted. 


Thanks,


Yosem
One of your moderators



PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of reply-to-all, 
click on the corresponding links below: 

* Reply-to-all considered useful: 
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
* Reply-to-all considered harmful: 
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html 

If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please 
click on the links below:


http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Alan Stewart

reply-to-all

Alan Stewart

On 3/20/2013 6:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:

Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's 
default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster. 
 Given the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue 
up for a vote:


  * Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST 
on Sunday, March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and 
time will not be counted.


Thanks,

Yosem
One of your moderators

PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of 
reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:


  * Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
  * Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, 
please click on the links below:


http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html



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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread James S. Tyre
Reply-to-all

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Joanne Michele
I vote to retain reply-to-all. 
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu
wrote:

 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,
 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:
- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?
 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday,
 March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be
 counted.
 Thanks,
 Yosem
 One of your moderators
 PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:
- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please
 click on the links below:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread John Sullivan
reply-to-all

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Trevor Timm
Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by 
just replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens 
of emails.


On 3/21/13 9:30 AM, John Sullivan wrote:

reply-to-all

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Bill Best
On 21 March 2013 16:33, Trevor Timm tre...@eff.org wrote:
 Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by just
 replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens of emails.

I disagree. Like many people here I filter my emails.

I can handle plenty more.

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 On 3/21/13 9:30 AM, John Sullivan wrote:

 reply-to-all

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Guido Witmond

On 03/21/2013 05:33 PM, Trevor Timm wrote:

Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by
just replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens
of emails.



Doesn't it prove the point of reply-to-poster?

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Travis McCrea
No, it just shows that people didn't understand the rules of voting. Nothing 
else.

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On 2013-03-21, at 12:42 PM, Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl wrote:

 On 03/21/2013 05:33 PM, Trevor Timm wrote:
 Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by
 just replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens
 of emails.
 
 
 Doesn't it prove the point of reply-to-poster?
 
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Karl Fogel
I vote that the list not munge the Reply-to header.

Some call this reply-to-poster, but it really means leave Reply-to
however the original poster set it.  If OP set it to the list, that's
fine; usually the OP sets it to their preferred personal address, of
course.

http://producingoss.com/en/mailing-lists.html#reply-to has all the
references I know of on this ancient and well-exercised debate :-).

Best,
-Karl

Sarah A. Downey sa...@getabine.com writes:
Reply to poster as default. Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Collin Sullivan
coll...@benetech.org wrote:

I vote for reply-to-list as default.


Yosem Companys:

 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing
list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to
reply-to-poster. Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue
up for a
 vote:


 - Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed
to

 reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST
on Sunday,
 March 24, 2013. Any votes received after this date and time will
not be
 counted.

 Thanks,

 Yosem
 One of your moderators

 PS To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:


 - Reply-to-all considered useful:
 http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
 - Reply-to-all considered harmful:


 http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech
list, please
 click on the links below:


http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.
html

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread John Sullivan
Karl Fogel kfo...@red-bean.com writes:

 I vote that the list not munge the Reply-to header.


I would also support this option were it available. :)

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Trinh Nguyen
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Trinh Nguyen liatngu...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Lewis
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-21 Thread Enrique Piraces
Reply to all.

Best,
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On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:

Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,

Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's default 
reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given the debate 
(see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a vote:

  *   Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to 
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?

Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday, 
March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be 
counted.

Thanks,

Yosem
One of your moderators

PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of reply-to-all, 
click on the corresponding links below:

  *   Reply-to-all considered useful: 
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
  *   Reply-to-all considered harmful: 
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please 
click on the links below:

http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
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http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
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http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
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http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Allan
 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on
 Sunday, March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time
 will not be counted.

reply-to-poster please

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Yosem Companys said:
 Dear Liberationtech list subscribers,
 
 Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's
 default reply to option from reply-to-all to reply-to-poster.  Given
 the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a
 vote:
 
- Do you want replies to Liberationtech list messages directed to
reply-to-all or reply-to-poster?
 
 Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday,
 March 24, 2013.  Any votes received after this date and time will not be
 counted.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Yosem
 One of your moderators
 
 PS  To read a summary of the advantages and disadvantages of
 reply-to-all, click on the corresponding links below:
 
- Reply-to-all considered useful:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
- Reply-to-all considered harmful:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 
 If you'd like to read the entire debate on the Liberationtech list, please
 click on the links below:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03767.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03768.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03769.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03771.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03772.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03773.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03774.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03775.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03776.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03777.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03778.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03779.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03780.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03781.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03782.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03783.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03788.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03789.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03790.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03791.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03799.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu/msg03801.html
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