Re: [liberationtech] Shoshanna Zuboff: Dark Google

2014-05-02 Thread carlo von lynX
Benjamin Bratton has posted a reply that hardly says anything
concrete and does not question any of the facts. Let's look at
this intelligent article again, knowing that Germany-based news
has the privilege of freedom to tell the truth when necesary
and still pay their authors for it. From a hacker's point of
view this all makes sense, while Mr Brattons blabber doesn't.
But for anyone who doesn't like to hear, Mr Bratton just
perfectly doesn't even challenge the facts provided here.
It's a classic example of a straw-man argumentation strategy.
Something very normal to do in PR and lobbyism.. or when you
honestly do not understand what the counterpart is saying.


On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 08:40:50AM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote:
 30.04.2014
 
 Dark Google
 
 We witness the rise of a new absolute power. Google transfers its
 radical politics from cyberspace to reality. It will earn its money by
 knowing, manipulating, controlling the reality and cutting it into the
 tiniest pieces.

What does it mean, when a conservative mainstream media newspaper
sends such a dramatic message? You better should get started thinking
about it, if you haven't already. FAZ does not play on alarmism, it
sells newspapers for decades and doesn't need to go cheap.

 Von SHOSHANA ZUBOFF
 
 Recall those fabled frogs happy in the magic pond. Playful.
 Distracted. The water temperature slowly rises, but the frogs don???t
 notice. By the time it reaches the boiling point, it???s too late to
 leap to safety.  We are as frogs in the digital waters, and Springer
 CEO Mathias Dopfner has just become our frog town crier.  Mr.
 Dopfner???s Why We Fear Google http://www.faz.net/-gsf-7oid8 (a
 response to Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt???s open letter, A
 Chance for Growth http://www.faz.net/-gsf-7o8dh) warns of danger on
 the move: The temperatures are rising fast.???  If his cry of alarm
 scares you, that???s good. Why?
 
 First, because there is a dawning awareness that Google is forging a
 new kingdom on the strength of a different kind of power ??
 ubiquitous, hidden, and unaccountable. If successful, the dominion of
 this kingdom will exceed anything the world has known. The water is
 close to boiling, because Google understands this statement more
 profoundly than we do.

From a hacker's perspective, ubiquitous isn't just that everybody is
currently using Google Search, but that there hardly are any relevant
web sites out that that do not make use of any embedded Google features.
Scripts, fonts, analytics, you name it. The Internet is soaked in
Google and gladly conveys all its usage patterns to the network's
central intelligence agency. Interestingly, this aspect hasn't been
discussed much anywhere. Even political websites frequently contain
Google wiretaps. No surprise, the NSA's search engines make intense
use of the pervasive presence of Google cookies to connect the dots
between websurfing activities, even when using Tor.

 Second, because accessing the Web and the wider Internet have become
 essential for effective social participation across much of the world.
 A BBC poll conducted in 2010 found that 79% of people in 26 countries
 considered access to the Internet to be a fundamental human right. We
 rely on Google???s tools as we search, learn, connect, communicate, and
 transact. The chilling irony is that we???ve become dependent on the
 Internet to enhance our lives, but the very tools we use there
 threaten to remake society in ways that we do not understand and have
 not chosen.

By moving on from paper to electronic they gave up the fundamental
right for Secrecy of Correspondence, just there.. by mistake. In the
beginning at least it wasn't all going to a single monitoring entity.
But that is over twenty years ago.

 Something new and dangerous
 
 If there is a single word to describe Google, it is absolute. The
 Britannica defines absolutism as a system in which the ruling power
 is not subject to regularized challenge or check by any other agency.
  In ordinary affairs, absolutism is a moral attitude in which values
 and principles are regarded as unchallengeable and universal. There is
 no relativism, context-dependence, or openness to change.
 
 Six years ago I asked Eric Schmidt what corporate innovations Google
 was putting in place to ensure that its interests were aligned with
 its end users. Would it betray their trust?  Back then his answer

Which is funny to even try, since CEOs usually only have as much
political power as they are able to drive the dividends up. All
politically correct action they can take is counter-balanced by
the damage they make by driving in revenue. So the possible
political correctness is always inferior to the needs of making
a business, which is never for free. Society always pays for it
in one way or another. It's in the architecture, so no-one is to
blame for this.

 stunned me. He and Google???s founders control the super-voting class B
 stock. This allows them, he 

Re: [liberationtech] Shoshanna Zuboff: Dark Google

2014-05-02 Thread Michael Allan
Shoshana Zuboff begins:
 We witness the rise of a new absolute power. Google transfers its
 radical politics from cyberspace to reality. It will earn its money
 by knowing, manipulating, controlling the reality and cutting it
 into the tiniest pieces.

The exaggerated claim of absolute power sets a tone of hysteria,
making it hard to take the author seriously.
 
 Recall those fabled frogs happy in the magic pond. Playful.
 Distracted. The water temperature slowly rises, but the frogs don’t
 notice. By the time it reaches the boiling point, it’s too late ...

With this, I lose all confidence in the author.  If Google is doing
anything wrong, then (speaking for myself) I'll await a more sober
report of it.

carlo von lynX defends:
 What does it mean, when a conservative mainstream media newspaper
 sends such a dramatic message? You better should get started
 thinking about it, if you haven't already. FAZ does not play on
 alarmism, it sells newspapers for decades and doesn't need to go
 cheap.

At best, it means they goofed.  Even an invasion from Mars wouldn't
warrant such an hysterical intro.  (Sorry to disagree.)

-- 
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/
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Re: [liberationtech] Shoshanna Zuboff: Dark Google

2014-05-02 Thread Peter Lindener
Oh my god the sky must be falling!.
Then I gather if some how we all manage to work togetherwe might mange
to hold it up!...

As for my credentials.. you ask...well I did study with Chicken
Little...clearly one of the greatest minds of his time!

   _peter


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Michael Allan m...@zelea.com wrote:

 Shoshana Zuboff begins:
  We witness the rise of a new absolute power. Google transfers its
  radical politics from cyberspace to reality. It will earn its money
  by knowing, manipulating, controlling the reality and cutting it
  into the tiniest pieces.

 The exaggerated claim of absolute power sets a tone of hysteria,
 making it hard to take the author seriously.

  Recall those fabled frogs happy in the magic pond. Playful.
  Distracted. The water temperature slowly rises, but the frogs don’t
  notice. By the time it reaches the boiling point, it’s too late ...

 With this, I lose all confidence in the author.  If Google is doing
 anything wrong, then (speaking for myself) I'll await a more sober
 report of it.

 carlo von lynX defends:
  What does it mean, when a conservative mainstream media newspaper
  sends such a dramatic message? You better should get started
  thinking about it, if you haven't already. FAZ does not play on
  alarmism, it sells newspapers for decades and doesn't need to go
  cheap.

 At best, it means they goofed.  Even an invasion from Mars wouldn't
 warrant such an hysterical intro.  (Sorry to disagree.)

 --
 Michael Allan

 Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
 http://zelea.com/
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 of list guidelines will get you moderated:
 https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech.
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[liberationtech] Shoshanna Zuboff: Dark Google

2014-05-01 Thread Yosem Companys
30.04.2014

Dark Google

We witness the rise of a new absolute power. Google transfers its
radical politics from cyberspace to reality. It will earn its money by
knowing, manipulating, controlling the reality and cutting it into the
tiniest pieces.

Von SHOSHANA ZUBOFF

Recall those fabled frogs happy in the magic pond. Playful.
Distracted. The water temperature slowly rises, but the frogs don’t
notice. By the time it reaches the boiling point, it’s too late to
leap to safety.  We are as frogs in the digital waters, and Springer
CEO Mathias Dopfner has just become our frog town crier.  Mr.
Dopfner’s Why We Fear Google http://www.faz.net/-gsf-7oid8 (a
response to Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt’s open letter, A
Chance for Growth http://www.faz.net/-gsf-7o8dh) warns of danger on
the move: The temperatures are rising fast.”  If his cry of alarm
scares you, that’s good. Why?

First, because there is a dawning awareness that Google is forging a
new kingdom on the strength of a different kind of power ––
ubiquitous, hidden, and unaccountable. If successful, the dominion of
this kingdom will exceed anything the world has known. The water is
close to boiling, because Google understands this statement more
profoundly than we do.

Second, because accessing the Web and the wider Internet have become
essential for effective social participation across much of the world.
A BBC poll conducted in 2010 found that 79% of people in 26 countries
considered access to the Internet to be a fundamental human right. We
rely on Google’s tools as we search, learn, connect, communicate, and
transact. The chilling irony is that we’ve become dependent on the
Internet to enhance our lives, but the very tools we use there
threaten to remake society in ways that we do not understand and have
not chosen.

Something new and dangerous

If there is a single word to describe Google, it is absolute. The
Britannica defines absolutism as a system in which the ruling power
is not subject to regularized challenge or check by any other agency.
 In ordinary affairs, absolutism is a moral attitude in which values
and principles are regarded as unchallengeable and universal. There is
no relativism, context-dependence, or openness to change.

Six years ago I asked Eric Schmidt what corporate innovations Google
was putting in place to ensure that its interests were aligned with
its end users. Would it betray their trust?  Back then his answer
stunned me. He and Google’s founders control the super-voting class B
stock. This allows them, he explained, to make decisions without
regard to short-term pressure from Wall Street. Of course, it also
insulates them from every other kind of influence. There was no
wrestling with the creation of an inclusive, trustworthy, and
transparent governance system.  There was no struggle to
institutionalize scrutiny and feedback.  Instead Schmidt’s answer was
the quintessence of absolutism: trust me; I know best. At that
moment I knew I was in the presence of something new and dangerous
whose effects reached beyond narrow economic contests and into the
heart of everyday life.

Google kills Innovation

Mr. Schmidt’s open letter to Europe shows evidence of such absolutism.
Democratic oversight is characterized as heavy-handed regulation.
The Internet, Web, and Google are referenced interchangeably, as
if Goggle’s interests stand for the entire Web and Internet. That’s a
magician’s sleight of hand intended to distract from the real issue.
Google’s absolutist pursuit of its interests is now regarded by many
as responsible for the Web’s fading prospects as an open information
platform in which participants can agree on rules, rights, and choice.

Schmidt warns that were the E.U. to oppose Google’s practices, Europe
risks becoming an innovation desert.  Just the opposite is more
likely true. Thanks in part to Google’s exquisite genius in the
science of surveillance,  the audacity with which it has expropriated
users’ rights to privacy, and the aggressive tactics of the NSA,
people are losing trust in the entire digital medium. It is this loss
of trust that stands to kill innovation. To make some sense of our
predicament, let’s take a fresh look at how we got here, the nature of
the threats we face, and the stakes for the future.

Google Colonizes a Blank Area and the NSA Follows

In his extended essay, The Loneliness of the Dying, the sociologist
Norbert Elias observes that dying is at present a largely unformed
situation, a blank area on the social map.  Such blanks occur when
earlier meanings and practices no longer apply, but new ones have yet
to be created.  Google’s rapid rise to power was possible because it
ventured into this kind of blank area. It colonized the blank space at
high speed without challenge or impediment. Google did not ask
permission, seek consensus,  elicit opinion, or even make visible its
rules and ramparts. How did this occur?

Breaking the Rules of the Old World

The first key ingredient was 

Re: [liberationtech] Shoshanna Zuboff: Dark Google

2014-05-01 Thread hc voigt
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there's a 'reply' by Benjamin Bratton making the rounds on fb:
(https://www.facebook.com/benjaminbratton/posts/10152082644097966?stream_ref=10)

 This piece by Shoshanna Zubof is just bad in multiple dimensions at
once. For that it neatly summarizes the warble of several of the weakest
and sickest old dogs within Google Studies. There are literally a
million reasons that the geopolitics of Google needs to be
front-and-center debate, bloody and relentless. Articles like this do
nothing but cheapen that debate with ignorance, sloppy and fearful
analogies, and tired conventional platitudes calling themselves courage.
A Top 12 of useless tropes, in rough order of their appearance in
Zubof’s article.

(1) Taking what Eric Schmidt says in Op-Ed's at face value as
representing Google's strategy, or worse as representing Google's
geopolitical and geoeconomic significance, power, or danger.

(2) Insisting that the author's self-pronounced confusion as to the
history or mutability of the Internet is proof of its insidiousness,
unaccountability and over-determination by current actors.

(3) Using a mish-mash of trigger words like 'colonize' and
'self-determination' without any need to link these to the presumed
contexts, and one assumes, giving no real thought to how (quote) “the
whole topography of cyberspace” does and does not resemble other kinds
of social, political, economic or cultural geography, let alone their
contentious histories.

(4) Utter misrepresentation of the relationship between Google and the
USA Federal Gov't, especially the NSA, including taking quotes out of
context to ventriloquize inverted meaning (the McConnell quote here was
about China hacking Google's servers to track dissidents, not PRISM).
Including patently absurd links between disparate events (such as Street
View inadvertent capture of public wi-fi addresses = NSA hacking patrol
because Google reported Chinese hacking to the NSA in 2010). Or how
about this one: NSA tracked users with some insidious new secret
technique called “cookies,” a weird new trick they learned in conspiracy
with Google.

(5) Blaming the disillusionment and disenchantment of their own earlier
naive and shallow presumptions about some intrinsically liberating
nature of the Internet on Google's data and advertising business model.

(6) Conflating Google with all other Cloud platforms, especially
Facebook, as one big entity with apparently deliberate ignorance of or
disinterest in significant distinctions.

(7) Insisting that things we do know about Google and PRISM (such as
their continuing pushback and resistance to court orders, their
subsidized development of user tools to directly circumvent government
surveillance, such as uproxy and google dns) are meaningless, but
indicating the opacity of all things we don’t know about any possible
dirty dealings is demonstrable proof of their abyssal darkness.

(8) Conflating user feedback and pushback regarding strange and
disturbing new forms of data transparency with some deliberate and
explicitly criminal mischief on Google’s part. Including
misrepresentation of what practices were and are secret and which are
merely unusual and controversial.

(9) Demanding that the author’s confusion about the ambiguous social
logics of secrecy and privacy in a network society is proof of an
innocence not merely disenchanted but one deliberately stolen by bad
actors. Demanding that the author’s inability to articulate a coherent a
political description of Cloud-based social systems is demonstrable
proof, not just of a general confusion, but once again of Google’s
willful violence.

(10) Offering laughably obvious predictions about Google’s future
intensions, including “data mining” (whoa, no way) and linking “online”
services with “offline” physical systems (like cars, robotics, and
houses) …(um, no shit). Demanding that because the exact terms of the
future are not known, then it must prove “secrecy” (in this case ‘bad
secrecy’) darkness and danger.

(11) Conflating Google with all of neoliberalism.

(12) Demanding that the only way to adjudicate these new Googly
conundrums is with new language and analytical tools. Next 5 sentences
then repeat the oldest and most conventional calls for general
well-being through measured oversight.



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Yosem Companys schrieb:
 30.04.2014
 
 Dark Google
 
 We witness the rise of a new absolute power. Google transfers its 
 radical politics from cyberspace to reality. It will earn its money
 by knowing, manipulating, controlling the reality and cutting it into
 the tiniest pieces.
 
 Von SHOSHANA ZUBOFF
 
 Recall those fabled frogs happy in the magic pond. Playful. 
 Distracted. The water