Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/2013 12:14 PM, Kate Krauss wrote: To me, the real question is, /If/ Bluecoat, why are things going so well for them when they are a 45 minute drive from activists in San Francisco? Happy to explain--off this list--what this means in terms of political strategy and offline, nonviolent direct action. For entities that are looking for the sort of capability Bluecoat equipment offers, this is free advertising for them. Bluecoat's surveillance and censorship gear is so good, not only did the Syrian government deploy it but it worked well enough to make those damned techno-hippies angry! Must be good stuff! Let me Google their sales site... Bad publicity is still publicity. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] Developer, Project Byzantium: http://project-byzantium.org/ PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ A little booty house is good for the soul. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFlwNIACgkQO9j/K4B7F8G/0gCg83RyEgUHcB8BGtFo01mBAc+q Q7wAnjRVxDevYBPjvNdPbVZboa1ep1Bu =kGQI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
Quantitative data! https://www.google.com/finance/historical?cid=663863startdate=Jul+1%2C+2011enddate=Apr+10%2C+2012ei=p8NlUZinGurN0AH89gE On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM, The Doctor dr...@virtadpt.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/2013 12:14 PM, Kate Krauss wrote: To me, the real question is, /If/ Bluecoat, why are things going so well for them when they are a 45 minute drive from activists in San Francisco? Happy to explain--off this list--what this means in terms of political strategy and offline, nonviolent direct action. For entities that are looking for the sort of capability Bluecoat equipment offers, this is free advertising for them. Bluecoat's surveillance and censorship gear is so good, not only did the Syrian government deploy it but it worked well enough to make those damned techno-hippies angry! Must be good stuff! Let me Google their sales site... Bad publicity is still publicity. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] Developer, Project Byzantium: http://project-byzantium.org/ PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ A little booty house is good for the soul. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFlwNIACgkQO9j/K4B7F8G/0gCg83RyEgUHcB8BGtFo01mBAc+q Q7wAnjRVxDevYBPjvNdPbVZboa1ep1Bu =kGQI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- *Collin David Anderson* averysmallbird.com | @cda | Washington, D.C. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
Collin Anderson col...@averysmallbird.com wrote: Quantitative data! https://www.google.com/finance/historical?cid=663863startdate=Jul+1%2C+2011enddate=Apr+10%2C+2012ei=p8NlUZinGurN0AH89gE The Doctor dr...@virtadpt.net wrote For entities that are looking for the sort of capability Bluecoat equipment offers, this is free advertising for them. Bad publicity is still publicity. Well that's extremely annoying. Generating awareness online is a great thing, but it feels extremely thin without in-person demonstrations or active policy changes/enforcement. Though I do wonder if some of that increase is due to automated trading systems. For example, shares of Berkshire Hathaway go up when Anne Hathaway is in the news, partly for this reason.[1] But of course, increased visibility to the general public means increased visibility to the types of people who make recommendations within Bahrain's government. Not really sure what the solution here is though. It's hard to know if a campaign will produce positive change before actually doing it. ~Griffin [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfQt6FWDi6c -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
[liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. However, there are a lot more sinister and disgusting companies who's products *sole-purpose* is surveillance and censorship, and sole market is those oppressive countries we talk about on this list. My point of view is not to defend Bluecoat, quite the opposite, but there are nastier and uglier fish out there. Can anyone set me right, or give an opinion? On or off list is fine. thanks, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX+/0AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrMQcH/1vOMQvty80EZkCGcqbXiT9t SI0o9OOU+wn3Am5ERwDfXlcXy+V/28vbXxPvbhRtjIukF1X94fgJ95+ODn2dOY6g B4wnOmLzvDT8HovPhf1zH4Dkot3N50Rkt4V4k29163EYVPgLkkuRrPgU6HGwB9IH dVW54KNXnZX3sXFsYle0j8rayI1tgPWpesPpWCe/J5pI+ljLTFbLEJ+Ytz6rPbqu y4c/Irjknh8NCVr1LLaGnTkeZQstv5oWZErRrv0bl9Qkm737PAkUCmhTjvBoJw7+ kJ9b7lFjJ2h9TRdw54RwTomRrhe4yYmPYlWnSyy4k6d6PK1B7bjKdUT89xjn4jY= =PYRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
On 4/6/13 11:50 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. That's activism, you need an enemy to fight even if they have no concrete liability! Do we want to speak about Cisco protecting North Korea infrastructure? :-) $ nc mail.silibank.com 25 220 ** expn let-me-see-if-this-is-cisco-ASA-smtp-fixup 500 5.5.1 Command unrecognized: let-me-see-if-this-is-cisco-ASA-smtp-fixup * North Korean's Silibank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sili_Bank * Cisco ASA/PIX: http://www.squiggle.org/2009/01/fixup-on-cisco-firewalls/ Fabio -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
Honestly? Because there is ample evidence to support it at the moment. I would also suggest that it's only singled out in the US - in Europe, the focus right now is on Gamma (FinFisher) and Amesys, largely. Activists have been accused in the past of singling out Cisco as well. Attention has now turned to Bluecoat. When there is evidence of another company's misdeeds, attention will surely turn there. Is that sufficient logic for you? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8...@ei8fdb.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. However, there are a lot more sinister and disgusting companies who's products *sole-purpose* is surveillance and censorship, and sole market is those oppressive countries we talk about on this list. My point of view is not to defend Bluecoat, quite the opposite, but there are nastier and uglier fish out there. Can anyone set me right, or give an opinion? On or off list is fine. thanks, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX+/0AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrMQcH/1vOMQvty80EZkCGcqbXiT9t SI0o9OOU+wn3Am5ERwDfXlcXy+V/28vbXxPvbhRtjIukF1X94fgJ95+ODn2dOY6g B4wnOmLzvDT8HovPhf1zH4Dkot3N50Rkt4V4k29163EYVPgLkkuRrPgU6HGwB9IH dVW54KNXnZX3sXFsYle0j8rayI1tgPWpesPpWCe/J5pI+ljLTFbLEJ+Ytz6rPbqu y4c/Irjknh8NCVr1LLaGnTkeZQstv5oWZErRrv0bl9Qkm737PAkUCmhTjvBoJw7+ kJ9b7lFjJ2h9TRdw54RwTomRrhe4yYmPYlWnSyy4k6d6PK1B7bjKdUT89xjn4jY= =PYRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- US: +1-857-891-4244 | NL: +31-657086088 site: jilliancyork.com http://jilliancyork.com/* | * twitter: @jilliancyork* * We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality - *Vaclav Havel* -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
To me, the real question is, *If* Bluecoat, why are things going so well for them when they are a 45 minute drive from activists in San Francisco? Happy to explain--off this list--what this means in terms of political strategy and offline, nonviolent direct action. This is definitely not an indictment of any group--there's amazing activism going on an a zillion fires to put out. But there are great opportunities to be explored. Kate Krauss (formerly of ACT UP Golden Gate, a group that successfully targeted major companies on the peninsula, from SF) On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jillian C. York jilliancy...@gmail.comwrote: Honestly? Because there is ample evidence to support it at the moment. I would also suggest that it's only singled out in the US - in Europe, the focus right now is on Gamma (FinFisher) and Amesys, largely. Activists have been accused in the past of singling out Cisco as well. Attention has now turned to Bluecoat. When there is evidence of another company's misdeeds, attention will surely turn there. Is that sufficient logic for you? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. However, there are a lot more sinister and disgusting companies who's products *sole-purpose* is surveillance and censorship, and sole market is those oppressive countries we talk about on this list. My point of view is not to defend Bluecoat, quite the opposite, but there are nastier and uglier fish out there. Can anyone set me right, or give an opinion? On or off list is fine. thanks, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX+/0AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrMQcH/1vOMQvty80EZkCGcqbXiT9t SI0o9OOU+wn3Am5ERwDfXlcXy+V/28vbXxPvbhRtjIukF1X94fgJ95+ODn2dOY6g B4wnOmLzvDT8HovPhf1zH4Dkot3N50Rkt4V4k29163EYVPgLkkuRrPgU6HGwB9IH dVW54KNXnZX3sXFsYle0j8rayI1tgPWpesPpWCe/J5pI+ljLTFbLEJ+Ytz6rPbqu y4c/Irjknh8NCVr1LLaGnTkeZQstv5oWZErRrv0bl9Qkm737PAkUCmhTjvBoJw7+ kJ9b7lFjJ2h9TRdw54RwTomRrhe4yYmPYlWnSyy4k6d6PK1B7bjKdUT89xjn4jY= =PYRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- US: +1-857-891-4244 | NL: +31-657086088 site: jilliancyork.com http://jilliancyork.com/* | * twitter: @jilliancyork* * We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality - *Vaclav Havel* -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It was an honest question Jillian. No ulterior motive. I would argue there is ample evidence to support it for Cisco, Redback, Ericsson, Siemens, NSN, F5, Apache Squidthe list goes on. I have read stories from European media (I can't give you a list right now, but if you'd like I can find) which use the Bluecoat example. Maybe thats actually a good project - to track the media coverage of network hardware vendors in connection with surveillance and censorship stories through out the world. If this has brought up a previous thorny conversation that was not my intention. It was a question I had been thinking about. Is it sufficient logic? Personally, not really but I understand the point of view now. thanks, Bernard On 6 Apr 2013, at 15:41, Jillian C. York wrote: Honestly? Because there is ample evidence to support it at the moment. I would also suggest that it's only singled out in the US - in Europe, the focus right now is on Gamma (FinFisher) and Amesys, largely. Activists have been accused in the past of singling out Cisco as well. Attention has now turned to Bluecoat. When there is evidence of another company's misdeeds, attention will surely turn there. Is that sufficient logic for you? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. However, there are a lot more sinister and disgusting companies who's products *sole-purpose* is surveillance and censorship, and sole market is those oppressive countries we talk about on this list. My point of view is not to defend Bluecoat, quite the opposite, but there are nastier and uglier fish out there. Can anyone set me right, or give an opinion? On or off list is fine. thanks, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX+/0AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrMQcH/1vOMQvty80EZkCGcqbXiT9t SI0o9OOU+wn3Am5ERwDfXlcXy+V/28vbXxPvbhRtjIukF1X94fgJ95+ODn2dOY6g B4wnOmLzvDT8HovPhf1zH4Dkot3N50Rkt4V4k29163EYVPgLkkuRrPgU6HGwB9IH dVW54KNXnZX3sXFsYle0j8rayI1tgPWpesPpWCe/J5pI+ljLTFbLEJ+Ytz6rPbqu y4c/Irjknh8NCVr1LLaGnTkeZQstv5oWZErRrv0bl9Qkm737PAkUCmhTjvBoJw7+ kJ9b7lFjJ2h9TRdw54RwTomRrhe4yYmPYlWnSyy4k6d6PK1B7bjKdUT89xjn4jY= =PYRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- US: +1-857-891-4244 | NL: +31-657086088 site: jilliancyork.com | twitter: @jilliancyork We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality - Vaclav Havel -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRYGJ/AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrubUIAJWszruj++/XowwiifJujEE7 P+Mcu2FSFatmyQFngrDcGtuThtdPxuer6lhsx3tZQgI7kz07yuYzDjrrESuDs3DR CLTA6SENfuc7SljBpFK6FN2h/28rWBxE9Cf74ydVV68Mzzj4r11w4PskT9bI7/5O Be+3IqGjqKzEKd6hCt6sVYr/eVyzJGMLc4QgnCpPCu1jM3B7aFyaSOdJxQXlNttV N0FWB6CIRM9UmrUEllUuYShxGSyGlBgVjR+Ia5iF2vcHKgTwqMzM1ao1ZiknTSdS 1PkaTokX8MNfuTx94OhmFPelpeLrr7qzpDQUDWpAHHgcMndsMwt5anI95WigMlM= =auxl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kate Krauss ka...@critpath.org wrote: To me, the real question is, *If* Bluecoat, why are things going so well for them when they are a 45 minute drive from activists in San Francisco? Happy to explain--off this list--what this means in terms of political strategy and offline, nonviolent direct action. This is definitely not an indictment of any group--there's amazing activism going on an a zillion fires to put out. But there are great opportunities to be explored. Kate Krauss (formerly of ACT UP Golden Gate, a group that successfully targeted major companies on the peninsula, from SF) Seconded. Cisco is based in San Jose as well, and they are certainly not immune from criticism, given that they sell censorship/filtering equipment to pretty much anyone. I've stood in the street with an anti-Bluecoat sign, but in terms of long-term damage, Cisco is probably the winner. From an activism perspective, it's important to pick One target and focus all energy there. Divided attention among the base means a higher likelihood of failure. You also have to pick a target where there's a reasonable chance of success. If five hundred activists protested in front of Bluecoat HQ, they'd likely change their internal policies because they are small enough that it would have a dramatic impact on their business to *not* acquiesce. If the same activists protested in front of Cisco, I'm not sure there'd be much change, if any. Geography is also a factor, as Jillian mentioned. To reiterate: Bluecoat is winnable with the right strategy. best, Griffin Boyce -- Please note that I do not have PGP access at this time. OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de / fonta...@jabber.ccc.de -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Why Bluecoat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I left the other wonderful people out: ZTE and their monitoring centre (shown in pictures from Libya), and of course Huawei. Just to give a good global representation. On 6 Apr 2013, at 15:41, Jillian C. York wrote: Honestly? Because there is ample evidence to support it at the moment. I would also suggest that it's only singled out in the US - in Europe, the focus right now is on Gamma (FinFisher) and Amesys, largely. Activists have been accused in the past of singling out Cisco as well. Attention has now turned to Bluecoat. When there is evidence of another company's misdeeds, attention will surely turn there. Is that sufficient logic for you? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been thinking about this for a while, and can't find a logical reason. Possibly I'm not thinking about it hard enough. I'm curious as to why Bluecoat seem to be singled out for all this attention regarding use in countries where the governments are not nice? Is it because they are a public, well known company? A lot the same stories repeat the same stories of Bluecoat equipment being used in the same oppressive regimes. As someone who worked in ISP level infrastructure for a while (thankfully no longer), I've seen the equipment used for neutral uses - network management, etc. However, there are a lot more sinister and disgusting companies who's products *sole-purpose* is surveillance and censorship, and sole market is those oppressive countries we talk about on this list. My point of view is not to defend Bluecoat, quite the opposite, but there are nastier and uglier fish out there. Can anyone set me right, or give an opinion? On or off list is fine. thanks, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRX+/0AAoJENsz1IO7MIrrMQcH/1vOMQvty80EZkCGcqbXiT9t SI0o9OOU+wn3Am5ERwDfXlcXy+V/28vbXxPvbhRtjIukF1X94fgJ95+ODn2dOY6g B4wnOmLzvDT8HovPhf1zH4Dkot3N50Rkt4V4k29163EYVPgLkkuRrPgU6HGwB9IH dVW54KNXnZX3sXFsYle0j8rayI1tgPWpesPpWCe/J5pI+ljLTFbLEJ+Ytz6rPbqu y4c/Irjknh8NCVr1LLaGnTkeZQstv5oWZErRrv0bl9Qkm737PAkUCmhTjvBoJw7+ kJ9b7lFjJ2h9TRdw54RwTomRrhe4yYmPYlWnSyy4k6d6PK1B7bjKdUT89xjn4jY= =PYRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- US: +1-857-891-4244 | NL: +31-657086088 site: jilliancyork.com | twitter: @jilliancyork We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality - Vaclav Havel -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRYGNVAAoJENsz1IO7MIrrsT8H/2ZcRr+vWXVYpbFjGVBxiGh1 Ywpmpd9h0Fnhp0lXqIRav8Op3EGFNkz8iT6Iaf0R/gjIYZnw+SWfw2E9BMbljyN3 1At+X6PllrUkbkomwJvJnaIri+xC3F7C2IZfeQlbefAm3h5LUwClpCzI6UFuJkLV wZKPvb74VOkrddhxsUsPkqFq7B1J0x43FYpPlF3OaRJ6beWHlDuBrc+350zFMw28 EajxjtTE1GApETOkzsQePT1R9nsAlpeM/4MEjErcQcct289U7owdf+WDHKO0koj0 1wqtq6M64jX8k1aw1Buw1i4ukhz9DrTtc9IK44xdcLsrkPFSym7H3CCjrmiIwng= =jhqN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
