Re: vs2012-ide-integration

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Meeks

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 19:22 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote:
 I don't understand.

You wrote:

 If I send you my notes, could you tweak your vs2012-ide-integration,
 to a vs2012native-ide-integration ( or any name you choose) so that
 we could generate those projects?  

I parse that as: if I send you some notes - can you turn that into
code changes for me ?.

And I reply:

   Well; the best way is to send a patch of your own. We love
 patches =) developers talk code really.

A patch is a representation of a code change; normally a unified diff -
ie. please do the code changes yourself, no matter how small, and send a
patch in. You can generate that easily with: git diff -u

In general; it is more helpful to interact by asking a specific
question to clarify your understanding.

In general it is also polite netiquette not to top-post, and to cut the
context of the mail to the minimum necessary for the discussion.

All the best,

Michael.

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Re: vs2012-ide-integration ( with better examples)

2014-09-18 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, nicholas ferguson
nicholasfergu...@wingarch.com wrote:

 If I send you my notes, could you tweak your vs2012-ide-integration, to a
 vs2012native-ide-integration ( or any name you choose) so that we could
 generate those projects?


In theory gbuild could be taught to generate this vxproj files...
gbuild is kind of object oriented, so it should be possible to run
make in a way that generate these files and then be able to call make
to build the product using batch invocation of visual studio build...
Ad Hoc construction of these files would not work because they would
become out-of-sync with the build pretty quickly.

Of course the 80/20 rule apply here.. dealing with straight c++
compile + link is relatively easy.. dealing with all the other corner
case fo the build is the hard part that would require substantial
hacking to create visual-studio custom build rules than can then be
invoked in a 'sln'...

As I said in theory it is doable, but it is much more work to do
completely than it looks at first sight... of course an incremental
approach may be possible.. dealing with low hanging fruit first (iow
module that do not have 'fancy' build step.. iow only straight forward
compile + link) so that at least one could have a 'sln' that can do
partial rebuild and debugging...) It just happen that no-one has felt
the urge to scratch that particular hitch... most dev avoid as much as
possible that awful platform. competent, motivated hacker that enjoy
windows is, unsurprisingly, a rare breed...

Norbert
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Re: vs2012-ide-integration

2014-09-18 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Nicholas,

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 08:45 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote:
 I built in Visual Studio, using native compilers…modules sc and cui
 and all of their dependencies. This build is separate from libreoffice
 make files and cygwin.  It doesn’t require references to make files or
 cygwin.

I love the idea; anything to make it easier to build on Windows and
remove the cygwin grief: I feel your pain.

 If I send you my notes, could you tweak your vs2012-ide-integration,
 to a vs2012native-ide-integration ( or any name you choose) so that we
 could generate those projects?  

Well; the best way is to send a patch of your own. We love patches =)
developers talk code really. I suspect if you start something there you
may find people intersted in playing with it with you  chipping away at
the problem.

ATB,

Michael.

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RE: vs2012-ide-integration

2014-09-18 Thread nicholas ferguson
I don't understand.

-Original Message-
From: LibreOffice [mailto:libreoffice-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf 
Of Michael Meeks
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:36 PM
To: nicholas ferguson
Cc: 'libreoffice'; havlicek.ho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: vs2012-ide-integration

Hi Nicholas,

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 08:45 -0400, nicholas ferguson wrote:
 I built in Visual Studio, using native compilers…modules sc and cui
 and all of their dependencies. This build is separate from libreoffice
 make files and cygwin.  It doesn’t require references to make files or
 cygwin.

I love the idea; anything to make it easier to build on Windows and
remove the cygwin grief: I feel your pain.

 If I send you my notes, could you tweak your vs2012-ide-integration,
 to a vs2012native-ide-integration ( or any name you choose) so that we
 could generate those projects?  

Well; the best way is to send a patch of your own. We love patches =)
developers talk code really. I suspect if you start something there you
may find people intersted in playing with it with you  chipping away at
the problem.

ATB,

Michael.

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