[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-12-20 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Kendy, Miklos, Xisco, Sophie, Caolan, Michael S, Michael M,
  Olivier, Heiko, Christian, Jan-Marek

* Completed Action Items:
+ reach out to Zotero (Michael)
  [ not obvious how to move ahead; technology & license (AGPL)
installed it (Heiko)
   + Java - 100Mb install, connectors to different apps
   + LibreOffice connector – as an extension ]
+ blog poll with ~50/50 acceptance to drop bibliography (Heiko)
  [ some accept getting rid of it, others say minimum func.
makes sense for basic users without online connection.
Could do a GSOC project (Samuel volunteered) ]

* Pending Action Items:
+ work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian)
  [ didn’t connect with him yet ] 
+ mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian)
+ add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian)
  [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation
can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just
ja it fails – needs further research  ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.1.4 RC2 status
+ 6.2 RC 1 status
  + ready for the bug hunting Friday tomorrow.
+ 6.2 RC 2 – due week 2 – Jan 17th  
  + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2
  + libreoffice-6-2-0 after RC2.
  + Late Features
 + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Thorsten)
+ merged into master & 6.2 branch in time for RC1
+ except for document indexes – still being worked on
  which should be finished by tomorrow.
+ is it enabled by default ? (Xisco) 
 + yes enabled by default (Michael S)
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
  + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet.
 + Online
+ 6.2 rc1 source up-loaded.

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ Added  for proper rendering of python code (ohallot)
+ Work on online editor: render XHP page while editing (ohallot)
+ Help contents2
+ many fixes by translators (S. Horacek, Sabri Unai, ohallot)
+ miscellaneous fixes (erAck, ohallot)
+ additions and corrections for Basic and Python pages (libreofficiant)
+ Issue: How to add menus and toolbars for new UIs such as:
Notebook bar, simple bar, grouped bars, etc.
   + Huge work to describe UNO commands in new UIs. 
   + each page describes where a tool is eg. “menu → format → character”
   + considering all the cmds in an interface – quite a lot of work.
   + also confusing to list several (Michael)
  + the resulting is the same but the way to get it different.
  + should be able to do it programatically from
.uno:Format to a path in the UI.
   + menu never changes (Heiko)
  + help on notebookbars – perhaps just drop that.
  + concerned about the workflow around notebookbar,
too many options in the UI – and not close to usability.
  + we have five variants of similar UIs – which goes in &
is documented ?
+ development of new ones is easy.
  + propose to ship 1, not an arbitrary number of them.
 + making it an extension kills it (Michael)
+ few people install them
+ why should that be ? (Heiko)
   + practically it is – fixing that is hard (Michael)
 + if we get XML somewhere – can get it on pages (Olivier)
+ right transformation to find the files & simplify docs here.
 + in the end it is all .uno:Foo commands (Kendy)
+ menu/toolbar/sidebar
AI: + send some quick code pointers to Olivier (Kendy)
+ Guides.
+ Updates ongoing on Calc guides

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
259(259) (topicUI) bugs open, 278(278) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months  
 added  4(-6) 19(-3) 61(-1) 102(-1) 
 commented 35(-21)   147(-19)   435(-1)1444(-8) 
   removed  1(1)   6(0)   9(1)   13(1)  
  resolved  3(2)   7(1)  22(0)  111(-1) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 92 changes in 1 month, and 547 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 37 changes in 1 month, and 284 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 32 changes in 1 month, and 227 changes in 1 year
  Pedro made 32 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year
  dieterp made 24 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 21 changes in 1 month, and 353 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 21 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes in 1 year
  himajin10 made 9 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
  

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Dec-20

2018-12-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Franklin, Tomaz, Cor, Heiko

Tickets 

 * default padding around Images
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122063
   + tdf#87360 asks for the opposite, which is the fact
   + don't agree on it being the opposite, it is somehow related, not more 
(Cor)
   + padding (aka spacing) makes sense (Franklin)
   + fact is that inserted images with a spacing take this value into the frame 
after adding a caption
 the image itself remains always unchanged
 + adding a (big) border makes the image smaller but changing this effects 
the text flow
 + take a closer look at tdf#90070 and tdf#87360 later (Cor)
   => apparently all is working as expected so the change to 0.2cm spacing 
makes sense

 * Show index entries which are names as ", " in 
alphabetical indexes
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122124
   + requires the addiiton of a new type of field with dirst, middle, lastname 
(e.g. more)
   => request makes sense and should evaluated by devs

 * Compatibility mode setting for Justified text terminated with linebreak...
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121984
   + Compatibility with MS (=> WFM) or change the default (=> easyhack)?
   + regression check before change needed
   + maybe get rid of the option completely as Paragraph > Alignment > 
Expand... exists (Franklin)
 + not working when compatibility is on but that could be fixed
   => no objection to the request, so do it
   => another ticket for replacing the compatibility to the paragraph setting

 * "Edit Style" in context menu is a confusing name
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88920
   + WFM, as it is the same on Writer
   => general agreement on WF

 * Ability to view the total time for rehearsed timings
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101597
   + need the total rehearsal time while running the presentation (e.g. want to 
know 
 that only 10mins are left for the last two slides) (Franklin)
   => so have the total time addiional to the time per slide 
   => new ticket needed for the reset on animation

 * Source Sans Pro, as Impress default font
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97577
   + up to the template (Franklin, Heiko)
   + defaults could take this into account (Cor, Tomaz)
   => let's do it (the templates are generated per script)





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