Re: Git problem

2012-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:

 On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 05:24:51PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
 One thought.  Some issues are best verified by checking lily output
 - http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2246 for
 example.  Can we break a normal rule and check these against a newly
 made binary?  What we'd then be doing is saying it was in the GUB
 binary and is still in master, so I'm going to verify.

 I can make a binary despite the existing issues to verify in this
 case.

Ok, let's check the diff:

git diff --stat release/2.15.3{2,3}-1 
 Documentation/de/notation/spacing.itely|2 +-
 Documentation/de/search-box.ihtml  |   15 +-
 Documentation/de/usage.tely|2 +-
 Documentation/de/usage/external.itely  |  104 ++-
 Documentation/de/usage/lilypond-book.itely |  217 ++-
 Documentation/de/usage/running.itely   |  242 ++--
 Documentation/de/usage/updating.itely  |   12 +-
 Documentation/fr/extending.tely|   78 +
 .../fr/extending/programming-interface.itely   |  345 +++--
 Documentation/fr/extending/scheme-tutorial.itely   | 1649 
 Documentation/ja/learning.tely |2 +-
 Documentation/ja/learning/templates.itely  |3 +-
 Documentation/ja/learning/tweaks.itely |  294 ++--
 Documentation/ja/notation.tely |4 +-
 Documentation/ja/notation/percussion.itely |2 +-
 Documentation/ja/notation/pitches.itely|   82 +-
 Documentation/ja/notation/rhythms.itely|  414 --
 Documentation/ja/notation/wind.itely   |2 +-
 Documentation/lilypond-texi2html.init  |2 +-
 .../snippets/alternative-bar-numbering.ly  |2 +-
 Documentation/snippets/alternative-breve-note.ly   |2 +-
 .../snippets/formatting-lyrics-syllables.ly|8 -
 Documentation/snippets/glissandi-can-skip-grobs.ly |2 +-
 .../snippets/lyrics-old-spacing-settings.ly|2 +-
 Documentation/snippets/strict-beat-beaming.ly  |2 +-
 Documentation/translations.itexi   |3 +-
 Documentation/web/community.itexi  |  199 +++
 Documentation/web/news-front.itexi |   33 +-
 Documentation/web/news.itexi   |2 +-
 VERSION|4 +-
 lily/book-scheme.cc|   13 +
 lily/span-bar-stub-engraver.cc |   77 +-
 ly/gregorian.ly|   34 +-
 scripts/build/extract_texi_filenames.py|3 +-

So all issues that were fixed and verified in 2.15.32 and that did _not_
touch any of the given files are fine.

Let's take a list at the concerned commits:

git log --oneline release/2.15.30-1..release/2.15.33-1 `git diff --name-only 
release/2.15.3{2,3}-1`

4276123 Release: update news.
2944a83 Merge branch 'fixedtranslation' into HEAD
5697144 Merge branch 'fixedmerge' into HEAD
46d2580 Release: bump version.
a5ff05c Release: update news.
abf0836 web: typo fix
f235881 LSR updates
c2c6d15 Local update of LSR
706417f Implement ly:book? and ly:context-def? predicates
8841948 WebCG: remove projects from HelpUs
32b9cd0 Fix issue 2359: example code in German and English docs should be the sa
9d1520b Merge branch 'lilypond/translation' into staging
744709d add ly:book-set-header!
2ccfd5a Prevents segfault in Span_bar_stub_engraver through derived_mark.
cc5223a Web: add GSoC ideas list
ab45be2 Doc-fr: enable Extending   * master file   * Scheme tutorial (first deli
2bba3b6 Fix Issue 2380: formatting of lyrics, \versus and \respondum
308c694 Web: Announcement update for the new LilyPond Report
fe2e679 Make extract-texi-filenames ignore comments
418adb3 Release: bump version.
3c62ac1 Doc-ja: update LM and NR
273e6b7 Merge remote branch 'origin' into release/unstable
7186f20 Release: update news.
acb4ce2 Web: encourage users to comment on existing bugs
d1141b3 web: rephrase bugreports section
dadabdf Doc-de: updates to usage manual
17bce3f Doc-de: update search-box
3597c42 Doc: update translation status.
e885a8c Merge branch 'lilypond/translation' into staging
55d9ad3 Release: bump version.
ea270d9 Release: update news.
be3a3ba web: typo fix
85274e7 LSR updates
650f0c7 Local update of LSR
09814b5 Implement ly:book? and ly:context-def? predicates
ee5f21d WebCG: remove projects from HelpUs
7092c5b Doc: add translation status for German.
67e5286 Merge branch 'lilypond/translation' of ssh://git.sv.gnu.org/srv/git/lily
37b502a Doc-de: update bad commitishes
7c28d92 Merge branch 'master' into lilypond/translation
e29d5fc Doc: update translation status.
e7d1bb7 Doc: update snippets and run makelsr.
12cfe6b Doc-de: update the noation manual, adding snippet translations
4dbf906 Doc: update translation status.
9ce85aa Doc: update snippets and run makelsr.

Re: since when LilyPond supports unicode?

2012-03-09 Thread James
Janek,

2012/3/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 Hi.

 i'd like to give precise information on how long Lily supports
 Unicode.  I've searched changes on website, mailing lists and git
 history, but didn't find the date - can you help?

cd $LILYPOND_GIT

git grep unicode

Just a quick glance shows me we mention 'stuff' in Changes around 2.10.x


-- 
--

James

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Re: since when LilyPond supports unicode?

2012-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Janek,

 2012/3/9 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
 Hi.

 i'd like to give precise information on how long Lily supports
 Unicode.  I've searched changes on website, mailing lists and git
 history, but didn't find the date - can you help?

 cd $LILYPOND_GIT

 git grep unicode

 Just a quick glance shows me we mention 'stuff' in Changes around 2.10.x

They look like enhancements only in my opinion, and there's no entry
in changes that would describe them:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
- ?

thanks,
Janek

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Re: since when LilyPond supports unicode?

2012-03-09 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude

Le 09/03/2012 18:59, Janek Warchoł disait :

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Jamespkx1...@gmail.com  wrote:

Janek,

2012/3/9 Janek Warchołjanek.lilyp...@gmail.com:

Hi.

i'd like to give precise information on how long Lily supports
Unicode.  I've searched changes on website, mailing lists and git
history, but didn't find the date - can you help?


cd $LILYPOND_GIT

git grep unicode

Just a quick glance shows me we mention 'stuff' in Changes around 2.10.x



November 2004 for the first appearance of utf-8/unicode


They look like enhancements only in my opinion, and there's no entry
in changes that would describe them:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
-  ?



Is this what you mean?
LilyPond 2.6 released - June 27, 2005

Version 2.6 is the latest stable release of LilyPond. It now installs in 
a snap on Windows, MacOS X, and any version of Linux (x86). Get up and 
running in minutes! Pango text formatting lets you print Unicode lyrics 
in your favorite script and font. Create SVG files, and edit them in 
Inkscape.


/and/
January 02, 2005

LilyPond 2.5.6 was released. This is a technology preview release, 
which means that it has all kinds of nifty features, but is not actually 
usable for producing nicely printed scores. For this reason, an RPM of 
this release was not produced. The PS backend is now completely switched 
over to Pango/FontConfig: for -f ps, LilyPond only accepts UTF8 input, 
all text fonts are loaded through Pango, the TeX backend now offloads 
all metric computations to LaTeX, the SVG and GNOME backends are broken, 
most probably.


Cheers,
Jean-Charles


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Re: Floating markup / Markup takes too much space

2012-03-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de

To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Floating markup / Markup takes too much space

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 01:37:50PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:


 Dear list
 
 I am trying something new; I want to include a logo in my copyright 
 line. I
 have here a one-page sheet consisting of a score and a markup block 
 which

 contains the text for verses 2 to 4.

 Now according to annotate-spacing, I have 11.13pt of space left. The 
 image

 in the screenshot was included with the command
 \epsfile #Y #6 #inc/filename.eps

 But even if I increase the image's height from 6 to a mere 7, the markup
 above is pushed to a second page.
 [...]
 There have been a _lot_ of changes in the spacing calculations between 
 the
 version you're using and current stable, which is 2.14.2.  I suggest 
 trying

 with 2.14 and letting us know if the problems remain.

Thanks for your answers. I was beginning to fear my questions became 
either too

specific, too mundane or were dealt with many a time before, so you just
didn't bother. :)


Well, actually I was working and then singing. Other people were probably 
doing something similar.  We answer as fast as we can, but it's better that 
you ask questions in plenty of time.


Anyway, The canon of your answers is to upgrade -- and I agree. A version 
push

request has been in the Gentoo bug tracker for ages now. I added a comment
there that 2.16 is about to come out (as I recently read here).


Back to topic: I built 2.14 from source which was easy thanks to Gentoo's
infrastructure. Indeed I can enlarge the logo nicely with it, because it
is a simple one-page piece.

Bigger pieces, however, use a template with a modified variant of the
titlepage snippet, which doesn't work properly with 2.14. This kind of
migration work is what I dread most about the switch.



Have you run convert-ly on the files in your project?  Most of the time, 
this will fix upgrade issues automatically.


--
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Re: since when LilyPond supports unicode?

2012-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jean-Charles Malahieude
lily...@orange.fr wrote:
 Le 09/03/2012 18:59, Janek Warchoł disait :

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Jamespkx1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Janek,

 2012/3/9 Janek Warchołjanek.lilyp...@gmail.com:

 Hi.

 i'd like to give precise information on how long Lily supports
 Unicode.  I've searched changes on website, mailing lists and git
 history, but didn't find the date - can you help?


 cd $LILYPOND_GIT

 git grep unicode

 Just a quick glance shows me we mention 'stuff' in Changes around 2.10.x


 November 2004 for the first appearance of utf-8/unicode


 They look like enhancements only in my opinion, and there's no entry
 in changes that would describe them:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/NEWS.html
 -  ?


 Is this what you mean?
 LilyPond 2.6 released - June 27, 2005

 Version 2.6 is the latest stable release of LilyPond. It now installs in a
 snap on Windows, MacOS X, and any version of Linux (x86). Get up and running
 in minutes! Pango text formatting lets you print Unicode lyrics in your
 favorite script and font. Create SVG files, and edit them in Inkscape.

 /and/
 January 02, 2005

 LilyPond 2.5.6 was released. This is a technology preview release, which
 means that it has all kinds of nifty features, but is not actually usable
 for producing nicely printed scores. For this reason, an RPM of this release
 was not produced. The PS backend is now completely switched over to
 Pango/FontConfig: for -f ps, LilyPond only accepts UTF8 input, all text
 fonts are loaded through Pango, the TeX backend now offloads all metric
 computations to LaTeX, the SVG and GNOME backends are broken, most probably.

Yes, that's what i need.  Thanks!
Janek

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lilypond 2.15.33 kind-of a release candidate

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
LilyPond 2.15.30 is out; this is not a actual release candidate
but it can be considered as an unofficial candidate.  All users
are invited to experiment with this version. New features since
2.14.2 are listed in the “Changes” manual on the website section
about Development.
http://lilypond.org/development.html

There are no known Critical issues with this release.  There will
be an official release candidate, with a release countdown, in a
few days.

If you discover any problems, please send us Bug reports. 
http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html

- Graham

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dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
lilypad will not work on osx 10.4 x86.  It works on 10.4 ppc.  I
do not consider bugs in osx-10.4 x86 to be release-critical; they
should be filed as normal type-build bugs.  Somebody may want to
update the download page accordingly to avoid giving users the
wrong impression.

If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

- Graham

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

- Graham

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Carl Sorensen

On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

I totally agree.

There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.

Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
which isn't really necessary.

I was going to propose this exact solution.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Cross-staff stem engraver (was: New frog in an empty pond?)

2012-03-09 Thread Pavel Roskin

Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:


Ordinarily something like this would go in the regression tests:

input/regression/cross-staff-stem-engraver.ly

And then you would add it to your git repository, and post it on Rietveld
for a review.


OK, I'll do it.

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Regards,
Pavel Roskin

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Re: lilypond 2.15.33 kind-of a release candidate

2012-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 LilyPond 2.15.30 is out; this is not a actual release candidate

Graham surely meant 2.15.33.
I'm crossing fingers for the release!

Janek

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

 I totally agree.

 There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.

 Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
 editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
 which isn't really necessary.

+1

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Colin Hall
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:07:55PM +0100, Janek Warcho wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
 
  On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 
 On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
  If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
  officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
  that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.
 
 oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.
 
 In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
 strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
 we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
 put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
 run on 10.7?' people shut up.
 
 This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
 the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
 moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.
 
  I totally agree.
 
  There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.
 
  Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
  editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
  which isn't really necessary.
 
 +1

Agreed.

-- 

Colin Hall

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Fixes to auxiliar/doc-section.sh

2012-03-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
I've just pushed some fixes to auxiliar/doc-section.sh to staging, as 
several things seemed to have gone wrong with it since I last used it.  The 
script is intended to be used for quickly checking changes made to the 
English docs.  It compiles a section of the docs to html in a minute or so 
and displays that section in a browser.  Far better than waiting an hour or 
so (that's how long it seems to take on my laptop) for make doc to finish, 
if all you want to do is check that the texinfo and the cross-refs are 
valid.  It now works fine on my laptop under Ubuntu.  I'd be grateful if one 
or two of the doc editors could check it out too, once it moves into master. 
Thanks.


Trevor


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