Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options (issue 149650043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread marc


https://codereview.appspot.com/149650043/diff/1/Documentation/usage/running.itely
File Documentation/usage/running.itely (right):

https://codereview.appspot.com/149650043/diff/1/Documentation/usage/running.itely#newcode680
Documentation/usage/running.itely:680: @item @code{tags-to-keep}
What do you think about
@code{keep-with-tag} and @code{remove-with-tag}
to match the corresponding @code{\keepWithTag} and @code{\removeWithTag}
LilyPond commands?

Giving similar functions different names would at least confuse myself
as a user ;-)

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Re: Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options (issue 149650043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread dak

Reviewers: marc,

Message:
On 2014/10/09 06:36:16, marc wrote:

https://codereview.appspot.com/149650043/diff/1/Documentation/usage/running.itely

File Documentation/usage/running.itely (right):



https://codereview.appspot.com/149650043/diff/1/Documentation/usage/running.itely#newcode680

Documentation/usage/running.itely:680: @item @code{tags-to-keep}
What do you think about
@code{keep-with-tag} and @code{remove-with-tag}
to match the corresponding @code{\keepWithTag} and

@code{\removeWithTag}

LilyPond commands?



Giving similar functions different names would at least confuse myself

as a user

;-)


The reason I picked those names was basically that the list of options
for

lilypond -dhelp

and in the Usage Reference is alphabetically sorted and I had to pick
between separating the options, abandoning the sorting order, or letting
them start in a similar way.  So I thought this would likely be the
lesser evil, but of course that is entirely subjective and if we get
enough feedback to be even closely similar to a vote or statistical
relevance, I'll be happy to change the choice.

Description:
Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options

Please review this at https://codereview.appspot.com/149650043/

Affected files (+26, -0 lines):
  M Documentation/usage/running.itely
  M scm/lily.scm
  M scm/music-functions.scm


Index: Documentation/usage/running.itely
diff --git a/Documentation/usage/running.itely  
b/Documentation/usage/running.itely
index  
0bff8f68df9636786d7eed1e0fdf43b83b8e4ea2..2979f66088198811ad01211f9c9d396c8310dfca  
100644

--- a/Documentation/usage/running.itely
+++ b/Documentation/usage/running.itely
@@ -677,6 +677,16 @@ size increases in PDF files.
 @tab @code{#f}
 @tab Use woff font files in SVG backend.

+@item @code{tags-to-keep}
+@tab @code{#f}
+@tab Run @code{\keepWithTag} with the given list of tags on the
+music in every @code{\score}, see @ruser{Using Tags}.
+
+@item @code{tags-to-remove}
+@tab @code{#f}
+@tab Run @code{\removeWithTag} with the given list of tags on the
+music in every @code{\score}, see @ruser{Using Tags}.
+
 @item @code{trace-memory-frequency}
 @tab @code{#f}
 @tab Record Scheme cell usage this many times per second.  Dump the
Index: scm/lily.scm
diff --git a/scm/lily.scm b/scm/lily.scm
index  
3ba26bc6dc6eece709b3714ec9e300a41311f46b..11dd0386b1cf0ad9c84ceb8fd168415aec7cd0c2  
100644

--- a/scm/lily.scm
+++ b/scm/lily.scm
@@ -339,6 +339,12 @@ PDF previews.)
 (svg-woff
  #f
  Use woff font files in SVG backend.)
+(tags-to-keep
+ #f
+ List of tags to keep.)
+(tags-to-remove
+ #f
+ List of tags to remove.)
 (trace-memory-frequency
  #f
  Record Scheme cell usage this many times per
Index: scm/music-functions.scm
diff --git a/scm/music-functions.scm b/scm/music-functions.scm
index  
aad473c7f0cf126684c6e5a893fbdc39dea04b18..3b289ea57e907daaaed43b179c8c18d631fa846e  
100644

--- a/scm/music-functions.scm
+++ b/scm/music-functions.scm
@@ -1347,6 +1347,16 @@ then revert skipTypesetting.

 (define-session-public toplevel-music-functions
   (list
+   (lambda (music parser)
+ (let ((tags (ly:get-option 'tags-to-keep)))
+   (if (symbol-list-or-symbol? tags)
+   (music-filter (tags-keep-predicate tags) music)
+   music)))
+   (lambda (music parser)
+ (let ((tags (ly:get-option 'tags-to-remove)))
+   (if (symbol-list-or-symbol? tags)
+   (music-filter (tags-remove-predicate tags) music)
+   music)))
(lambda (music parser) (expand-repeat-chords!
(cons 'rhythmic-event
  (ly:parser-lookup  
parser '$chord-repeat-events))




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Re: Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options (issue 149650043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread lilyliska

The patch works as expected.

However, it has to be noted that by default (that is, running without
the option) *keeps* the tags. When I define a command and encapsulate it
in a tag this command is executed unless explicitly switched off with
-dtags-to-remove.

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread lilyliska


https://codereview.appspot.com/150670043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely
File Documentation/notation/spacing.itely (right):

https://codereview.appspot.com/150670043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely#newcode1857
Documentation/notation/spacing.itely:1857: @end lilypond
On 2014/10/08 05:01:40, Keith wrote:

Why not store the common music in a variable, and show
  \score {\music}
  \discaredOriginalBreaks
  \score {\music}
?


Because it wouldn't work that way. \discardOriginalBreaks
would be interpreted when the command is written. So the
change doesn't have an effect when the variable is called the
second time (but actually it's not the use case to change
the behaviour along the way of a score).

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Urs Liska


Am 08.10.2014 00:30, schrieb nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com:

On 2014/10/07 08:37:06, uliska wrote:

On 2014/10/07 08:37:06, uliska wrote:

On 2014/10/07 08:37:06, uliska wrote:

On 2014/10/07 08:37:06, uliska wrote:

Important:
* There should be regression tests.


OK. (but only *if* the patch should  be accepted ...)



Musing:
* Why not use tags?  (Example below.)


Because that requires the command definition to be done locally or in a 
library.

The point of the patch is not to make original breaks *possible* but to make
them *available*.


* Does this implementation make it possible to set the option from the
lilypond command line?


Yes, but not as a command line option but using the -e option defining 
the configuration variable



* When using original breaks, wouldn't one also want original page size,
staff size, etc.?
* What about hundreds of other features of the original edition?


IMO these are different things.
The detailed aspects of an original edition are a matter of a style 
sheet - if you want to mimick them.
What I am talking about is a tool to improve the user experience for 
music entry or proof-reading. It is extremely practical to have 
identical breaks when you have to match the original manuscript and the 
compiled LilyPond output in a score of 100+ pages. But of course you 
don't want to hardcode these breaks and prevent LilyPond from doing its 
own breaking.
So what I want is a way to be able to enter the original manuscript's 
breaks in the input file and switch them on and off.


And I would really love to see that being part of LilyPond itself and 
not only possible to implement in a library.
Firstly because I would like *all* LilyPond users to have that available 
and secondly because I would like to add this as a Layout Control Option 
to Frescobaldi.


Urs

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Re: Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options (issue 149650043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread dak

On 2014/10/09 07:45:38, uliska wrote:

The patch works as expected.



However, it has to be noted that by default (that is, running without

the

option) *keeps* the tags.


Sure.  So does \keepWithTag #'() \tag hi { c4 4 4 4 } (actually, before
the existence of \tagGroup it didn't).



When I define a command and encapsulate it in a tag
this command is executed unless explicitly switched off with

-dtags-to-remove.

Or unless you use -dtags-to-keep on a different tag.  Yes.

You can check the options with (ly:get-option '...) and set them with
(ly:set-option '...) so you have the ability to push in an implicit
\keepWithTag #'score when nothing of other relevance is specified on the
command line.

If that is not good enough, the question is how this could be made
better.

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Re: Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove commandline options (issue 149650043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread Urs Liska


Am 09.10.2014 10:27, schrieb d...@gnu.org:

On 2014/10/09 07:45:38, uliska wrote:

The patch works as expected.



However, it has to be noted that by default (that is, running without

the

option) *keeps* the tags.


Sure.  So does \keepWithTag #'() \tag hi { c4 4 4 4 } (actually, before
the existence of \tagGroup it didn't).



When I define a command and encapsulate it in a tag
this command is executed unless explicitly switched off with

-dtags-to-remove.

Or unless you use -dtags-to-keep on a different tag.  Yes.

You can check the options with (ly:get-option '...) and set them with
(ly:set-option '...) so you have the ability to push in an implicit
\keepWithTag #'score when nothing of other relevance is specified on the
command line.

If that is not good enough, the question is how this could be made
better.



It probably *is* good enough, so my comment wasn't a request for change.


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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 And I would really love to see that being part of LilyPond itself and
 not only possible to implement in a library.
 Firstly because I would like *all* LilyPond users to have that
 available and secondly because I would like to add this as a Layout
 Control Option to Frescobaldi.

When those goals conflict with placing specific functionality in a
library, we have an infrastructure problem.  We won't solve that problem
by cramming everything into the core, not least of all because such
specific solutions cannot really reliably be turned into a
one-size-fits-all approach.

So it is important _not_ to have shrinkwrapped functionality for a
particular purpose _forced_ onto users but have it loadable on demand.
And be able to offer choice between one or several different solutions
as well as rolling your own.

-- 
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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Urs Liska


Am 09.10.2014 10:44, schrieb David Kastrup:

Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:


And I would really love to see that being part of LilyPond itself and
not only possible to implement in a library.
Firstly because I would like *all* LilyPond users to have that
available and secondly because I would like to add this as a Layout
Control Option to Frescobaldi.

When those goals conflict with placing specific functionality in a
library, we have an infrastructure problem.  We won't solve that problem
by cramming everything into the core, not least of all because such
specific solutions cannot really reliably be turned into a
one-size-fits-all approach.

So it is important _not_ to have shrinkwrapped functionality for a
particular purpose _forced_ onto users but have it loadable on demand.
And be able to offer choice between one or several different solutions
as well as rolling your own.



My approach *is* loadable on demand (just as the guitar fretboards).
What *could* make sense in my opinion is instead of adding secondary 
files to the /ly directory adding them to a separate directory which 
could contain such add-ons. Is there anything that makes my suggestion 
less general than, say, the mentioned guitar fretboards?


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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 Am 09.10.2014 10:44, schrieb David Kastrup:
 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:

 And I would really love to see that being part of LilyPond itself and
 not only possible to implement in a library.
 Firstly because I would like *all* LilyPond users to have that
 available and secondly because I would like to add this as a Layout
 Control Option to Frescobaldi.
 When those goals conflict with placing specific functionality in a
 library, we have an infrastructure problem.  We won't solve that problem
 by cramming everything into the core, not least of all because such
 specific solutions cannot really reliably be turned into a
 one-size-fits-all approach.

 So it is important _not_ to have shrinkwrapped functionality for a
 particular purpose _forced_ onto users but have it loadable on demand.
 And be able to offer choice between one or several different solutions
 as well as rolling your own.


 My approach *is* loadable on demand (just as the guitar fretboards).
 What *could* make sense in my opinion is instead of adding secondary
 files to the /ly directory adding them to a separate directory which
 could contain such add-ons. Is there anything that makes my suggestion
 less general than, say, the mentioned guitar fretboards?

Yes.  The guitar fretboards concern a whole family of instruments
literally millions of people play.

Your extension makes only very limited sense for scores reproducing the
original breaks of a single canonical original document.  That's a
rather specific situation.  If the breaks in _one_ version of a score
are so important, why is that the _only_ conceivable version of the
score with relevant breaks?  And if that is the only conceivable
version, why would we put the breaks in conditionally?  If they are
disabled, we could be producing _another_ document with breaks that
nobody should ever want to reproduce.

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Urs Liska


Am 09.10.2014 11:27, schrieb David Kastrup:

Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:


Am 09.10.2014 10:44, schrieb David Kastrup:

Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:


And I would really love to see that being part of LilyPond itself and
not only possible to implement in a library.
Firstly because I would like *all* LilyPond users to have that
available and secondly because I would like to add this as a Layout
Control Option to Frescobaldi.

When those goals conflict with placing specific functionality in a
library, we have an infrastructure problem.  We won't solve that problem
by cramming everything into the core, not least of all because such
specific solutions cannot really reliably be turned into a
one-size-fits-all approach.

So it is important _not_ to have shrinkwrapped functionality for a
particular purpose _forced_ onto users but have it loadable on demand.
And be able to offer choice between one or several different solutions
as well as rolling your own.


My approach *is* loadable on demand (just as the guitar fretboards).
What *could* make sense in my opinion is instead of adding secondary
files to the /ly directory adding them to a separate directory which
could contain such add-ons. Is there anything that makes my suggestion
less general than, say, the mentioned guitar fretboards?

Yes.  The guitar fretboards concern a whole family of instruments
literally millions of people play.

Your extension makes only very limited sense for scores reproducing the
original breaks of a single canonical original document.  That's a
rather specific situation.


Now I start to see your misunderstanding.


  If the breaks in _one_ version of a score
are so important, why is that the _only_ conceivable version of the
score with relevant breaks?


Where did I say that such a version is the only conceivable version of 
the score?



And if that is the only conceivable
version, why would we put the breaks in conditionally?


Because one wouldn't want to *finally* produce a version of the score 
with the breaks of the original score. If that's my interest (which then 
would actually be a rather specific situation) I can simply use 
hardcoded \break commands.


The whole point of these conditional commands is to have a tool (maybe 
you can call it an editing mode) to match LilyPond's output with the 
*one* version of the score I'm copying from, that is the one I have on 
my desktop in front of me.


And such a tool would (positively) affect a whole family of music 
engravers, namely those who are engraving music from an existing copy. I 
think the ratio between these and music engravers who don't do this is 
significantly closer to 50:50 than the ration between engravers writing 
music for fretboard instruments and those who don't.



  If they are
disabled, we could be producing _another_ document with breaks that
nobody should ever want to reproduce.


If they are disabled (after music entry and proof-reading has been 
completed) we will produce a document that benefits from LilyPond's quality.





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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 bylilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org



Your extension makes only very limited sense for scores reproducing the
original breaks of a single canonical original document.  That's a
rather specific situation.


Now I start to see your misunderstanding.


  If the breaks in _one_ version of a score
are so important, why is that the _only_ conceivable version of the
score with relevant breaks?


Where did I say that such a version is the only conceivable version of the 
score?



And if that is the only conceivable
version, why would we put the breaks in conditionally?


Because one wouldn't want to *finally* produce a version of the score with 
the breaks of the original score. If that's my interest (which then would 
actually be a rather specific situation) I can simply use hardcoded 
\break commands.


The whole point of these conditional commands is to have a tool (maybe you 
can call it an editing mode) to match LilyPond's output with the *one* 
version of the score I'm copying from, that is the one I have on my 
desktop in front of me.



I'd add my voice to saying that I could see how this would be useful.  When 
transcribing any piece of older music (renaissance in my case) it would be 
convenient to keep the original line breaks to aid checking, and then get 
rid of them to produce an appropriate newer version.


I'm less sure that having to \include a file is the best way to do it, 
though.


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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 bylilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Urs Liska


Am 09.10.2014 11:48, schrieb Phil Holmes:

- Original Message - From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org


Your extension makes only very limited sense for scores reproducing the
original breaks of a single canonical original document. That's a
rather specific situation.


Now I start to see your misunderstanding.


  If the breaks in _one_ version of a score
are so important, why is that the _only_ conceivable version of the
score with relevant breaks?


Where did I say that such a version is the only conceivable version 
of the score?



And if that is the only conceivable
version, why would we put the breaks in conditionally?


Because one wouldn't want to *finally* produce a version of the score 
with the breaks of the original score. If that's my interest (which 
then would actually be a rather specific situation) I can simply 
use hardcoded \break commands.


The whole point of these conditional commands is to have a tool 
(maybe you can call it an editing mode) to match LilyPond's output 
with the *one* version of the score I'm copying from, that is the one 
I have on my desktop in front of me.



I'd add my voice to saying that I could see how this would be useful.  
When transcribing any piece of older music (renaissance in my case) it 
would be convenient to keep the original line breaks to aid checking, 
and then get rid of them to produce an appropriate newer version.


I'm less sure that having to \include a file is the best way to do it, 
though.




I would prefer having the commands available as built-in commands too. I 
just created the patch in the way I did it because I thought this would 
make it easier to get accepted (because it's less intrusive and doesn't 
add anything to runtime ressources unless needed explicitly).


Urs

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread tdanielsmusic

I've not followed the corresponding email discussion closely, and maybe
I've missed something, but how is this better than simply using \obreak
for an original break, and \nbreak for a new, required, break, having
defined

obreak = \break
nbreak = 

in order to obtain the original breaks.  And then simply redefining

obreak = 
nbreak = \break

to remove the original breaks and activate the new ones?  And
equivalently for page breaks.

This has the advantage that newly inserted breaks don't interfere with
the original ones.

It would also be trivial to remove all these editing aids finally with a
simple global edits.

That seems so simple anyone can do it without adding anything to the
base code and almost a page to the documentation.

Trevor


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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:21:45AM +, tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I've not followed the corresponding email discussion closely, and maybe
 I've missed something, but how is this better than simply using \obreak
 for an original break, and \nbreak for a new, required, break, having
 defined
 
 obreak = \break
 nbreak = 
...
 That seems so simple anyone can do it without adding anything to the
 base code and almost a page to the documentation.

This method is already in the documentation!  At least, it used to
be... Learning Manual, tips for typesetting or something like
that?  it's just possible it was moved to Notation or Usage at
some point.  But it was definitely in the docs ten years ago.
(yes, literally 10 years ago.  Mao, where did the time go?)

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread dak

On 2014/10/09 10:21:45, Trevor Daniels wrote:


It would also be trivial to remove all these editing aids finally with

a simple

global edits.


I think the basic point was to get different aspects of the same
document _without_ doing any edits on it.

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Re: Issue 4154: Compact Chord Symbols Patch (issue 153160043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread Richard Shann
On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 17:41 +, d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Reviewers: ,
 
 
 https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm
 File scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm (right):
 
 https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm#newcode98
 scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm:98: (vector-ref #(C D E F G A
 B) (ly:pitch-notename
 This looks like a bad idea.  It does not obey the various chord name
 languages.  It does not use the same callbacks.  It is a large
 duplication of code not connected with the other code and not using the
 same options, functionality and interfaces.

When I saw this (on the lilypond-devel mailing list) I thought this was
a comment about the existing code. The code quoted is the existing code,
which I haven't changed.
My code does not generate any chord names, so it can't obey any chord
name languages, it just typesets the elements of the chord name in a
more compact fashion.

Sorry for not replying earlier, but I did think that my patch had
sparked a debate about the quality of the original file, not my patch to
it, which is purely concerned with how the markup is created for the
chord names as generated by the existing code.

Richard


 
 Can't you try to integrate this kind of code better with the existing
 code, both regarding the code that is called as well as the naming
 conventions and functionality that are available?
 
 Description:
 Issue 4154: Compact Chord Symbols Patch
 
 Please review this at https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/
 
 Affected files (+100, -26 lines):
M scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm
M scm/define-context-properties.scm
 
 
 
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PATCHES: Countdown for October 12th 2014

2014-10-09 Thread James

Hello,

Here is the current patch countdown list. The next countdown will be on 
October 12th.


You can always view the most current countdown list here:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?q=Patch%3Apush%2Ccountdown%2Creview%2Cnew%2Cwaitingcolspec=Patch%20Owner%20ID%20Summarysort=patch




PUSH:

David Kastrup: Patch: Eliminate will never be null warnings in smobs.tcc.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4152

James Lowe: Patch: Doc: Usage 1.2 - Added note about using wildcards
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4147

Valentin Villenave: Add functionality to string numbers
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4139

David Kastrup: tie in TabStaff (using q) displays one of the unisone 
notes in a chord

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3066

David Kastrup: \lyricsto may turn into a voice-mangling zombie when both 
parents die at the same time

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2010

David Kastrup: ossia staff doesn't stop at correct horizontal position
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=660

David Kastrup: non-synchronized grace note makes voiceOne go stems down
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=630




COUNTDOWN:

David Kastrup: Patch: Turn Smob_base::print_smob into member functions
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4158

Dan Eble: Patch: Let \time in mid-measure work without warning in some cases
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4127




REVIEW:

David Kastrup: Patch: Implement -dtags-to-keep and -dtags-to-remove 
commandline options

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4160

David Kastrup: Patch: Define Smob constructors.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4156

Urs Liska: Patch: Add original-breaks.ly commands
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4155




WAITING:

Keith OHara: allow bn for B-natural in English
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4076

Urs Liska: Patch: Issue 3916: Add \alternatingTimeSignatures
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3918

Mike Solomon: Patch: Prevents vertical axis groups with empty skylines
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3156

Mike Solomon: Patch: Removes the translate_axis call from 
axis-group-interface outside-staff positioning.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3134

David Kastrup: Patch: Implement music functions in Scheme rather than C++
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2716




Thank you,
James

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Re: Issue 4154: Compact Chord Symbols Patch (issue 153160043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread dak

On 2014/10/09 11:08:16, richard_rshann.plus.com wrote:

On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 17:41 +, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Reviewers: ,




https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm

 File scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm (right):




https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm#newcode98

 scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm:98: (vector-ref #(C D E F G

A

 B) (ly:pitch-notename
 This looks like a bad idea.  It does not obey the various chord name
 languages.  It does not use the same callbacks.  It is a large
 duplication of code not connected with the other code and not using

the

 same options, functionality and interfaces.



When I saw this (on the lilypond-devel mailing list) I thought this

was

a comment about the existing code. The code quoted is the existing

code,

which I haven't changed.


It most certainly isn't the existing code.  It is not even present
anywhere in the same file.  You might have copied parts of it into the
file from some other file, but even git blame -w -C -C -C does not
point to any purported other file as a potential source.


https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/

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Re: Issue 4154: Compact Chord Symbols Patch (issue 153160043 by d...@gnu.org)

2014-10-09 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 11:36 +, d...@gnu.org wrote:
 On 2014/10/09 11:08:16, richard_rshann.plus.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 17:41 +, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote:
   Reviewers: ,
  
  
  
 https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm
   File scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm (right):
  
  
 
 https://codereview.appspot.com/153160043/diff/1/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm#newcode98
   scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm:98: (vector-ref #(C D E F G
 A
   B) (ly:pitch-notename
   This looks like a bad idea.  It does not obey the various chord name
   languages.  It does not use the same callbacks.  It is a large
   duplication of code not connected with the other code and not using
 the
   same options, functionality and interfaces.
 
  When I saw this (on the lilypond-devel mailing list) I thought this
 was
  a comment about the existing code. The code quoted is the existing
 code,
  which I haven't changed.
 
 It most certainly isn't the existing code.

Well, that depends what I meant by the existing code - the specific file
I was modifying calls chordRootNamer which is initialized to
note-name-markup which is in chord-names.scm:62, and that is where the
quoted construct exists in the current lilypond code, in fact I see it
is repeated several times in that file.

Richard





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Re: Roman numerals may be used for page numbers too (issue 151230044 by v.villen...@gmail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread v . villenave

Greetings,
having pushed the recent string-number-styles patch, I thought another
area where we might benefit from roman numerals would be page numbers.
This is an attempt at getting there.



https://codereview.appspot.com/151230044/

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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-10-09 12:41 GMT+02:00 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:

 On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:21:45AM +, tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  I've not followed the corresponding email discussion closely, and maybe
  I've missed something, but how is this better than simply using \obreak
  for an original break, and \nbreak for a new, required, break, having
  defined
 
  obreak = \break
  nbreak = 
 ...
  That seems so simple anyone can do it without adding anything to the
  base code and almost a page to the documentation.

 This method is already in the documentation!  At least, it used to
 be... Learning Manual, tips for typesetting or something like
 that?  it's just possible it was moved to Notation or Usage at
 some point.  But it was definitely in the docs ten years ago.
 (yes, literally 10 years ago.  Mao, where did the time go?)


It's actually in Usage:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/typesetting-existing-music

But it's not enough, you should also use the information provided here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/explicit-breaks

```
There are cases when manual \break or \pageBreak commands are ignored by
LilyPond. There are two commands to override this behavior:

\override NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = ##f
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn.page-break-permission = ##f
```
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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-10-09 11:38 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:

 Because one wouldn't want to *finally* produce a version of the score with
 the breaks of the original score. If that's my interest (which then would
 actually be a rather specific situation) I can simply use hardcoded
 \break commands.

 The whole point of these conditional commands is to have a tool (maybe you
 can call it an editing mode) to match LilyPond's output with the *one*
 version of the score I'm copying from, that is the one I have on my desktop
 in front of me.


Urs, I like a lot the idea but a simple example would help to understand
the benefits of this patch. I'm currently using \mbreak and two overrides
in a \layout that I can easily comment.

I'm having problems with commenting on Rietveld through browser atm.. I
think that this part is not clear:

 1800 While copying or proof-reading music from existing manuscripts
 1801 it is useful to have the compiled scores respect the line
 1802 and page breaking of the manuscript source.  LilyPond provides
 1803 the commands @code{\origBreak} and @code{\origLineBreak} that
 1804 conditionally create line and page breaks.  They are enabled with


\origBreak refers to page break? Then call it \origPageBreak.. or at least
keep the symmetry in your sentence, i.e. create page and line breaks.
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Re: Add original-breaks.ly commands (issue 150670043 by lilyli...@googlemail.com)

2014-10-09 Thread k-ohara5a5a

On 2014/10/09 08:11:29, uliska wrote:

On 2014/10/08 05:01:40, Keith wrote:
 Why not store the common music in a variable, and show
  \score {\music}
  \discaredOriginalBreaks
  \score {\music}
 ?



Because it wouldn't work that way. \discardOriginalBreaks
would be interpreted when the command is written.


Oh.  I see how it works now.


https://codereview.appspot.com/150670043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely
File Documentation/notation/spacing.itely (right):

https://codereview.appspot.com/150670043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely#newcode1842
Documentation/notation/spacing.itely:1842: \discardOriginalBreaks
In that case you could do everything you describe in this documentation
by typing
  origBreak = {} %\break
here instead of \discardOriginalBreaks, and then we don't need the
include file.

Do you plan to add a command-line option like -doriginal-breaks so you
can switch behaviors from the command line?

https://codereview.appspot.com/150670043/

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