Fw: [gnu-soc] GNU accepted in GSOC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

We should now revise our GSoC page...


Werner

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Hello people!

The GNU Project has been accepted as a mentoring organization in the
Google Summer of Code program, 2023.

This is what we have to do now:

- If your GNU program wants to participate, please send project ideas to
  summer-of-c...@gnu.org, CCing jema...@gnu.org.  For each idea, please
  make sure to specify:

  + Title, and description.
  + Skills required.
  + A mentor with an email address.
  + Whether it is a 175 hour or a 350 hour project.
  + Difficulty: easy, medium or hard.
  + CLEAR contact method for interested students.

  You can also give us a link to a page in your website containing the
  ideas page.  This is actually preferable.

- We will be inviting the mentors to join the GNU organization in
  https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com as mentors.  If you don't get an
  invitation and want to mentor, please let us know here.

>From now to March 19, be ready to be contacted by contributors, in
whatever contact mean you specified in your ideas page.  Starting in
March 20, contributors will start submitting their proposals through the
program website.

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Re: [gnu-soc] GNU GSOC 2023 application

[Jose E. Marchesi]

Hi Werner.


> Hello Jose,
>
>
> below is something for GNU LilyPond.

I just updated the ideas page.
Thanks!

>
>
> Werner
>
>
> ==
>
>
> LilyPond is a music engraving program, devoted to producing the
> highest-quality sheet music possible.  It brings the aesthetics of
> traditionally engraved music to computer printouts.  LilyPond is free
> software and part of the GNU Project.
>
> Project site: https://lilypond.org/
>
>
> Adding variants of font glyphs
> --
>
> * Adding 'on' and 'between' staff-line variants.
>
> * Shorter and narrower variants of some glyphs (for example,
>   accidentals).  Another, more specific example could be an ancient
>   notation breve notehead coming in two variants, one with a small and
>   one with a big 'hole' within it.
>
> Difficulty: easy/medium
> Size: 175h/350h
> Required skills: MetaFont, C++, good eye for details
> Contact: 'lilypond-devel@gnu.org' mailing list
>  (https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel) 
> Recommended knowledge: basic LilyPond knowledge
>
> More GSoC ideas: https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html

Re: [gnu-soc] GNU GSOC 2023 application

[Werner LEMBERG]

Hello Jose,


below is something for GNU LilyPond.


Werner


==


LilyPond is a music engraving program, devoted to producing the
highest-quality sheet music possible.  It brings the aesthetics of
traditionally engraved music to computer printouts.  LilyPond is free
software and part of the GNU Project.

Project site: https://lilypond.org/


Adding variants of font glyphs
--

* Adding 'on' and 'between' staff-line variants.

* Shorter and narrower variants of some glyphs (for example,
  accidentals).  Another, more specific example could be an ancient
  notation breve notehead coming in two variants, one with a small and
  one with a big 'hole' within it.

Difficulty: easy/medium
Size: 175h/350h
Required skills: MetaFont, C++, good eye for details
Contact: 'lilypond-devel@gnu.org' mailing list
 (https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel) 
Recommended knowledge: basic LilyPond knowledge

More GSoC ideas: https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html

Re: [Jose E. Marchesi] [gnu-prog-discuss] GNU GSOC 2023 application

[Jean Abou Samra]

Le mardi 07 février 2023 à 21:24 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :
> 
> Forwarded from
[gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org](mailto:gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org):


Wernr, you seem to be the only one willing to mentor a student,
so I suggest you just send your project proposal. It would also
be nice to update the GSoC page on lilypond.org with the
newest details such as the project size (and also move
the other projects to the Attic).

Best,
Jean



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[Jose E. Marchesi] [gnu-prog-discuss] GNU GSOC 2023 application

[David Kastrup]

Forwarded from gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org:

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Hi hackers.

Please see below.  If you are interested in participating with your GNU
program in GSOC 2023 under the umbrella of GNU, please subscribe to
summer-of-c...@gnu.org and send the requested information for ideas.

Thanks!

From: "Jose E. Marchesi" 
To: summer-of-c...@gnu.org
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Hello everyone.

I have just submitted an application for the GNU Project to participate
as a mentoring organization in GSOC 2023.

We will know the outcome in late February.

In the meanwhile, it is VERY important to collect and publish a list of
ideas of the GNU programs interested in participating under the GNU
umbrella.

To do so, please send them to this list and I will be adding it to our
GSOC ideas page.

For each idea, please include the following information:

- Name of the program (example, GNU poke).
- Short description of the program.
- URL of the program (example, https://www.gnu.org/s/recutils)
- Title for the idea (example, Writing python bindings for libpoke).
- Description of the idea.
- Skills necessary to do the work.
- Address a prospective student should use in order to contact the
  development community and maintainers of the program.  This would be
  the typical foo-de...@gnu.org or bug-...@gnu.org list.
- A list of URLs with reference information useful for the
  idea.

Please do not bother to format the ideas in HTML.  We will do it for
you.

Remember people: the more and more exciting and nice ideas we have in
the page, the bigger are the odds we will get accepted this year.  Also,
the sooner we have the info on place, the more odds we will have as
well.

So please send the information sonner than later!  Do not wait until
mid-February to do so.

Salud!



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David Kastrup

Re: GSoC 2023

[Abraham Lee]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 8:20 AM Jean Abou Samra  wrote:

> On 03/02/2023 16:10, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> >
> >> Aah, thanks, now I remember: LilyPond, being part of GNU, doesn't have
> >> to apply separately (or should we?); instead, we are using the GNU
> >> umbrella and get slots from the there.
> >
> > Hmm, this probably is no longer correct.  I now remember that GNU was
> > rejected as an GSoC organization in 2021,
>
>
> (Given https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-google.html
> I am actually surprised that GNU to be accepted for the
> previous years...)


I can be on hand to consult/advise, but I’m afraid I’m not available enough
to fill the mentor role right now.

Best,
Abraham

>

Re: GSoC 2023

[Jean Abou Samra]

On 03/02/2023 16:10, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
>> Aah, thanks, now I remember: LilyPond, being part of GNU, doesn't have
>> to apply separately (or should we?); instead, we are using the GNU
>> umbrella and get slots from the there.
> 
> Hmm, this probably is no longer correct.  I now remember that GNU was
> rejected as an GSoC organization in 2021,


(Given https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-google.html
I am actually surprised that GNU to be accepted for the
previous years...)



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Re: GSoC 2023

[Jean Abou Samra]

On 03/02/2023 16:16, Jean Abou Samra wrote:

> If we want to apply, we really need a solid list of projects.
> Peter, Carl, Abraham, ping, can you please confirm whether you
> are still willing or not to act as mentors for the projects
> listed on https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html ?

(Sorry, forgot to CC those people.)



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Re: GSoC 2023

[Jean Abou Samra]

On 03/02/2023 16:10, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
>> Aah, thanks, now I remember: LilyPond, being part of GNU, doesn't have
>> to apply separately (or should we?); instead, we are using the GNU
>> umbrella and get slots from the there.
> 
> Hmm, this probably is no longer correct.  I now remember that GNU was
> rejected as an GSoC organization in 2021, and I couldn't find any
> hints in
> 
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/summer-of-code/
> 
> that there is any activity for a GNU umbrella in 2022 or 2023.
> 
> So it seems that LilyPond should apply by its own.



If we want to apply, we really need a solid list of projects.
Peter, Carl, Abraham, ping, can you please confirm whether you
are still willing or not to act as mentors for the projects
listed on https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html ?






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Re: GSoC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

> Aah, thanks, now I remember: LilyPond, being part of GNU, doesn't have
> to apply separately (or should we?); instead, we are using the GNU
> umbrella and get slots from the there.

Hmm, this probably is no longer correct.  I now remember that GNU was
rejected as an GSoC organization in 2021, and I couldn't find any
hints in

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/summer-of-code/

that there is any activity for a GNU umbrella in 2022 or 2023.

So it seems that LilyPond should apply by its own.


Werner

Re: GSoC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

>> Who did the LilyPond's registration as an organization last time?
> 
> I remember Urs Liska being the main facilitator for Google Summer of
> Code work.
> 
> 
> 

Aah, thanks, now I remember: LilyPond, being part of GNU, doesn't have
to apply separately (or should we?); instead, we are using the GNU
umbrella and get slots from the there.


Werner

Re: GSoC 2023

[Karlin High]

On 2/3/2023 1:17 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:

Who did the LilyPond's registration as an organization last time?


I remember Urs Liska being the main facilitator for Google Summer of 
Code work.





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Re: GSoC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

>> AFAIK, the LilyPond's GSoC pages are up to date, but maybe some
>> minor adjustments or additions are necessary/useful, so please have
>> a look!
>>
>>   https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html
>
> I think one point that could be improved wrt the last years is the
> planning to upstream the changes and have them merged in a timely
> manner. I can participate as a co-mentor from the technical side, if
> wanted.

This is great news, thanks!

Given that there are only four days left: Who did the LilyPond's
registration as an organization last time?  This is quite pressing
now...


Werner

Re: GSoC 2023

[Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development]

On Mon, 2023-01-30 at 08:55 +, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> The deadline for registering LilyPond as mentor organization for GSoC
> 2023 is February 7th.  Do we want to participate?
> 
> Who did the registration the last time?  If necessary, I'm willing to
> do the registering process if we agree on participation.
> 
> AFAIK, the LilyPond's GSoC pages are up to date, but maybe some minor
> adjustments or additions are necessary/useful, so please have a look!
> 
>   https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html

I think one point that could be improved wrt the last years is the
planning to upstream the changes and have them merged in a timely
manner. I can participate as a co-mentor from the technical side, if
wanted.


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Re: GSoC 2023

[David Kastrup]

Jean Abou Samra  writes:

> On 30/01/2023 09:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>> 
>> The deadline for registering LilyPond as mentor organization for GSoC
>> 2023 is February 7th.  Do we want to participate?
>
>
> I won't mentor anyone (I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this for
> someone roughly my age),

On the Internet, nobody can measure the length of your beard.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: GSoC 2023,Re: GSoC 2023

[Jean Abou Samra]

On 30/01/2023 12:47, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>  
>> I won't mentor anyone (I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this for
>> someone roughly my age),
> 
> Rest assured that this is not an issue at all!  I really bow down
> before your knowledge and skills regarding LilyPond.



Thanks, but it's not about the technical support: if we have
a GSoC student, I am prepared to assist them with technical
issues on this mailing list and GitLab issues/MRs, just like
with all new contributors. There is just an additional aspect
to mentoring, namely overseeing the planning, making sure
the student invests the right amount of work (not too little
nor burning themself out) and evaluating the project, which I
prefer to leave to others.

Best,
Jean



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Re: GSoC 2023,Re: GSoC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

 
> I won't mentor anyone (I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this for
> someone roughly my age),

Rest assured that this is not an issue at all!  I really bow down
before your knowledge and skills regarding LilyPond.

> Also, the "size of project" field needs to be filled in for each
> proposal. This is a new requirement from Google, as there was only
> one size before the 2022 program. If you are proposing to mentor a
> project, please give an estimate of "medium" (apparently ~175 hours)
> or "large" (~350 hours).

I consider 'Adding variants of font glyphs' a 'medium' project.

Another thing is that GSoC projects are no longer restricted to three
months.  The time interval can be stretched up to six months if
desired by the student and/or the mentor.


Werner

Re: GSoC 2023

[Jean Abou Samra]

On 30/01/2023 09:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
> The deadline for registering LilyPond as mentor organization for GSoC
> 2023 is February 7th.  Do we want to participate?


I won't mentor anyone (I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this for
someone roughly my age), but if there is a student and a mentor,
that's great. Peter, Carl, Abraham, can you confirm that you are
willing to be mentors for the projects listed on the GSoC page
(https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html)?

Also, the "size of project" field needs to be filled in for each
proposal. This is a new requirement from Google, as there was
only one size before the 2022 program. If you are proposing to
mentor a project, please give an estimate of "medium" (apparently
~175 hours) or "large" (~350 hours).

Also, we might want to remove the link to Scores of Beauty from
that page ...

Best,
Jean



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GSoC 2023

[Werner LEMBERG]

The deadline for registering LilyPond as mentor organization for GSoC
2023 is February 7th.  Do we want to participate?

Who did the registration the last time?  If necessary, I'm willing to
do the registering process if we agree on participation.

AFAIK, the LilyPond's GSoC pages are up to date, but maybe some minor
adjustments or additions are necessary/useful, so please have a look!

  https://lilypond.org/google-summer-of-code.html


Werner