Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:33 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Am 3. April 2012 16:30 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: My understanding is that, once a correct snippet is in the LSR, it should be deleted from snippets/new. What will then happen is that I will grab an updated tarball of the snippets tagged with the docs tag and run makelsr. These will then all be imported into snippets (not snippets/new). If there is a snippet in snippets/new it over-writes the one from the tarball. So the next task is to check whether there are any snippets in snippets/new that should not be deleted - these would be ones that only run on 2.15.x. I'm not sure how to continue: I just downloaded the source-tarball, lilypond-2.15.35.tar.gz and sorted the 2.14-snippets from *Documentation/snippets/new/ I noticed that these snippets are not completely identical to the ones from Savannah: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=tree;f=Documentation/snippets/new;h=cac0bba81f655a2666049823e7d21ec51bcd73cd;hb=2055f35c47a045a50a01ff4dba8524322cfc3b48 What to do? -Harm = Savannah will only catch up when I've run makelsr from the tarball and pushed the changes to git. I want a clear run at that, and so am planning to do it over the weekend. Could you confirm that all the snippets shown in Savannah/snippets/new can be removed/deleted? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Ok, I checked it. Only the following 37 files have to be added manually (the others are updates of existing LSR-files) I've updated the LSR with all the new files - i.e. I've added them to docs and approved them. I'm assuming the others (i.e. changed versions of existing snippets) will have been imported via the tarball-Seba route. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hello, On 4 April 2012 16:07, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Ok, I checked it. Only the following 37 files have to be added manually (the others are updates of existing LSR-files) I've updated the LSR with all the new files - i.e. I've added them to docs and approved them. We should know 2 hours from now when Patchy does it's thing and tries to merge staging and master. :) James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: James pkx1...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com; Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hello, On 4 April 2012 16:07, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Ok, I checked it. Only the following 37 files have to be added manually (the others are updates of existing LSR-files) I've updated the LSR with all the new files - i.e. I've added them to docs and approved them. We should know 2 hours from now when Patchy does it's thing and tries to merge staging and master. :) James No - that'll only tell me I've not done anything really stupid with makelsr. I ran it without naming a tarball, so it just updates the snippets with (I believe) anything in snippets/new. It's a sensible preparation for doing a more extensive update of the snippets from the tarball from the LSR. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:29:40PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: No - that'll only tell me I've not done anything really stupid with makelsr. I ran it without naming a tarball, so it just updates the snippets with (I believe) anything in snippets/new. That is correct. It also updates any translations of snippets. It's a sensible preparation for doing a more extensive update of the snippets from the tarball from the LSR. Yes, sounds good. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Thomas Morley ; lilypond-devel Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: Sorry about the top post. Windows mail is sometimes a pain. I'll do fretted-string-harmonics... to screech-boink. Phil Holmes Attached the tarball with the missing files from `Ducumentatione/snippets/new/' I'll pick the following files and put them into the LSR: alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly Cheers, Harm I just added the remaining files. One thing: I kept the formatting in the texidoc string because I noticed that this had been done in other additions. Should this be converted to HTML formatting? -David Simple answer - don't know. I converted @code{} to code/code in the snippets I added, since this then displays correctly in the web version of the LSR. I'm assuming this gets put back to texidoc coding during the import, but will need to check it when I do this. There are a few tweaks like this we need to remember when we document the process. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi David, I just checked our recent addings to the LSR. In unfretted-headword.ly I noticed the line: noflag = \once \override Flag #'style = #'no-flag could you change it to: noflag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag ? Well, the noflag-Definition isn't used in the snippet, but perhaps someone would be puzzled about it. Thanks, Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi Harm, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi David, I just checked our recent addings to the LSR. In unfretted-headword.ly I noticed the line: noflag = \once \override Flag #'style = #'no-flag could you change it to: noflag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag ? Well, the noflag-Definition isn't used in the snippet, but perhaps someone would be puzzled about it. Nice catch! Fixed. -David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi Phil, I just checked the snippets I added to the lsr-tarball as well as our recent lsr-addings against the snippets from `Documentation/snippets/new/' on http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=tree;f=Documentation/snippets/new;h=cac0bba81f655a2666049823e7d21ec51bcd73cd;hb=2055f35c47a045a50a01ff4dba8524322cfc3b48 Perhaps I messed up sth or I missed recent changes. There are a few files, now being in the LSR, which should be changed: adjusting-lyrics-vertical-spacing.ly comment changed position automatic-beam-subdivisions.ly markup-arguments were changed changing-the-time-signature-without-affecting-the-beaming.ly should be deleted: This snippet is deprecated as of 2.13.5 and will be removed in 2.14 displaying-complex-chords.ly should be replaced by the current version engravers-one-by-one.ly \consists Tie_engraver is doubled (In the file on Savannah, too) May I ask you to do this? -Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:24 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi Phil, I just checked the snippets I added to the lsr-tarball as well as our recent lsr-addings against the snippets from `Documentation/snippets/new/' on http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=tree;f=Documentation/snippets/new;h=cac0bba81f655a2666049823e7d21ec51bcd73cd;hb=2055f35c47a045a50a01ff4dba8524322cfc3b48 Perhaps I messed up sth or I missed recent changes. There are a few files, now being in the LSR, which should be changed: adjusting-lyrics-vertical-spacing.ly comment changed position automatic-beam-subdivisions.ly markup-arguments were changed changing-the-time-signature-without-affecting-the-beaming.ly should be deleted: This snippet is deprecated as of 2.13.5 and will be removed in 2.14 displaying-complex-chords.ly should be replaced by the current version engravers-one-by-one.ly \consists Tie_engraver is doubled (In the file on Savannah, too) May I ask you to do this? -Harm My understanding is that, once a correct snippet is in the LSR, it should be deleted from snippets/new. What will then happen is that I will grab an updated tarball of the snippets tagged with the docs tag and run makelsr. These will then all be imported into snippets (not snippets/new). If there is a snippet in snippets/new it over-writes the one from the tarball. So the next task is to check whether there are any snippets in snippets/new that should not be deleted - these would be ones that only run on 2.15.x. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Sebastiano's last mail: Am 3. April 2012 18:31 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 3. April 2012 18:00 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: All new snippets compiled happily. Now it shold be impossible to insert wrong snippets (the web interface won't allow it). I'm happy to hear that. Am I right that now the 2.14.2-LSR-update is completely successful and all other work on/with it has to be done through the web-interface? Yes, absolutely :). Ciao, seba :)) -Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 3. April 2012 16:30 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: My understanding is that, once a correct snippet is in the LSR, it should be deleted from snippets/new. What will then happen is that I will grab an updated tarball of the snippets tagged with the docs tag and run makelsr. These will then all be imported into snippets (not snippets/new). If there is a snippet in snippets/new it over-writes the one from the tarball. So the next task is to check whether there are any snippets in snippets/new that should not be deleted - these would be ones that only run on 2.15.x. I'm not sure how to continue: I just downloaded the source-tarball, lilypond-2.15.35.tar.gz and sorted the 2.14-snippets from *Documentation/snippets/new/ I noticed that these snippets are not completely identical to the ones from Savannah: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=tree;f=Documentation/snippets/new;h=cac0bba81f655a2666049823e7d21ec51bcd73cd;hb=2055f35c47a045a50a01ff4dba8524322cfc3b48 What to do? -Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 2. April 2012 01:36 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: Am 1. April 2012 22:23 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? Wow. That's a lot of work. Thanks for this. Please send it to Sebastiano. Done. -Harm Sebastiano accepted the new tarball and the LSR now runs with it. I think this work is finished. ad 2. I'll be happy to take a share, too. I'll prepare a tarball with the missing files. Attached the tarball with the missing files from `Ducumentatione/snippets/new/' I'll pick the following files and put them into the LSR: alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly Cheers, Harm missing.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Sorry about the top post. Windows mail is sometimes a pain. I'll do fretted-string-harmonics... to screech-boink. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Am 2. April 2012 01:36 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: Am 1. April 2012 22:23 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? Wow. That's a lot of work. Thanks for this. Please send it to Sebastiano. Done. -Harm Sebastiano accepted the new tarball and the LSR now runs with it. I think this work is finished. ad 2. I'll be happy to take a share, too. I'll prepare a tarball with the missing files. Attached the tarball with the missing files from `Ducumentatione/snippets/new/' I'll pick the following files and put them into the LSR: alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: Sorry about the top post. Windows mail is sometimes a pain. I'll do fretted-string-harmonics... to screech-boink. Phil Holmes Attached the tarball with the missing files from `Ducumentatione/snippets/new/' I'll pick the following files and put them into the LSR: alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-**augmentation-dots-per-note.lyhttp://changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-**diagrams.lyhttp://changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.**ly http://chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-**visibility-after-a-line-break.**lyhttp://controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-**scheme-ambitus-engraver.lyhttp://defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-**postfix.lyhttp://dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.**lyhttp://dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly Cheers, Harm I just added the remaining files. One thing: I kept the formatting in the texidoc string because I noticed that this had been done in other additions. Should this be converted to HTML formatting? -David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi, Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? Sure, I'll be happy to take a share. -David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Thanks. Currently working on sorting out the problem with the headers - once that's done we'll set about this. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Thomas Morley ; lilypond-devel Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi, Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? Sure, I'll be happy to take a share. -David___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 1. April 2012 16:57 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: Thanks. Currently working on sorting out the problem with the headers - once that's done we'll set about this. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Thomas Morley ; lilypond-devel Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi, Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? Sure, I'll be happy to take a share. -David Hi Phil, my plans: 1. Finish a proper LSR-update. 2. Include the missing files from `Documentation/snippets/new/' 3. Rewrite CG 7.7 ad 1. I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? ad 2. I'll be happy to take a share, too. I'll prepare a tarball with the missing files. ad 3. I'd like to rewrite CG 7.7 after the other work is done. Removing headers and versions manually is a long lasting and boring work, so your script to do it automated would be very helpful. Best, Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:19 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Am 1. April 2012 16:57 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: Thanks. Currently working on sorting out the problem with the headers - once that's done we'll set about this. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Thomas Morley ; lilypond-devel Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi, Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? Sure, I'll be happy to take a share. -David Hi Phil, my plans: 1. Finish a proper LSR-update. 2. Include the missing files from `Documentation/snippets/new/' 3. Rewrite CG 7.7 ad 1. I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? Wow. That's a lot of work. Thanks for this. Please send it to Sebastiano. ad 2. I'll be happy to take a share, too. I'll prepare a tarball with the missing files. Thanks. ad 3. I'd like to rewrite CG 7.7 after the other work is done. Removing headers and versions manually is a long lasting and boring work, so your script to do it automated would be very helpful. Please let me have CG words - I'll put them into the correct format. I'll have the script ready in the next day or so for review. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hi Harm, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com** To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:19 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Am 1. April 2012 16:57 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: Thanks. Currently working on sorting out the problem with the headers - once that's done we'll set about this. Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: David Nalesnik To: Phil Holmes Cc: Thomas Morley ; lilypond-devel Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hi, Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? Sure, I'll be happy to take a share. -David Hi Phil, my plans: 1. Finish a proper LSR-update. 2. Include the missing files from `Documentation/snippets/new/' 3. Rewrite CG 7.7 ad 1. I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? Wow. That's a lot of work. Thanks for this. Please send it to Sebastiano. ad 2. I'll be happy to take a share, too. I'll prepare a tarball with the missing files. Thanks. ad 3. I'd like to rewrite CG 7.7 after the other work is done. Removing headers and versions manually is a long lasting and boring work, so your script to do it automated would be very helpful. Please let me have CG words - I'll put them into the correct format. I'll have the script ready in the next day or so for review. Thank you so much for everything you've done! -David ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 1. April 2012 22:23 schrieb Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com I downloaded todays LSR-tarball and removed all unnecessary headers and versions manually. Compiling-tests showed no problems. I'd like to create a new tarball and send it back to Sebastiano. What do you think? Wow. That's a lot of work. Thanks for this. Please send it to Sebastiano. Done. -Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: James pkx1...@gmail.com To: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca Cc: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Hello, On 30 March 2012 02:24, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: ... Well, currently I can't self-compile LilyPond or prepare a formal patch or sth else in this direction. Seems I have to learn a lot. ;) Yep. To warn you: at the moment the quick start section of the CG is broken; following its instructions will give you neither a quick nor painless start. Your options are: 1) go through the painful process of figuring out which parts are still valid and which are not. Without a mentor, this will be especially painful. 2) wait for lilydev to be updated (ETA: 6 weeks) and somebody to fix up at least the short quick start section (ETA: 1 month after lilydev is updated). 3) ask/wait for somebody else to handle the LSR import. Unfortunately there is no magic wand that will let us offer you an option other than those three. (unless I've forgotten about something, which is possible given my mental state these days. James: I have not forgotten about your recent work on lilydev, but I stand behind my pessimistic estimate) I've updated LilyDev and been working with it this week testing the basics - it makes the code and the doc. I've given Mike a copy of the iso (as he was the only one I knew who used LilyDev in anger) and I FTP'd the iso to Phil's website last night. As far as I know, this is good to go. James I use LilyDev quite a bit - a slightly out of date version. The only machine for which this is not true is the Ubuntu 64-bit real machine I use for build. My PC VM is lilydev, as is my GUB VM on the big build box. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Phil, I use LilyDev quite a bit - a slightly out of date version. The only machine for which this is not true is the Ubuntu 64-bit real machine I use for build. My PC VM is lilydev, as is my GUB VM on the big build box. Oh good. I thought you only used a phys machine. James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
- Original Message - From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: LSR is now on 2.14 Ok, I checked it. Only the following 37 files have to be added manually (the others are updates of existing LSR-files) alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly fretted-string-harmonics-in-tablature.ly graphical-and-text-woodwind-diagrams.ly hiding-accidentals-on-tied-notes-at-the-start-of-a-new-system.ly keyboard-headword.ly lyrics-old-spacing-settings.ly making-slurs-with-complex-dash-structure.ly non-default-tuplet-numbers.ly numbers-as-easy-note-heads.ly open-string-harmonics-in-tablature.ly pitches-headword.ly repeats-headword.ly rhythms-headword.ly screech-boink.ly setting-the-double-repeat-default-for-volte.ly simultaneous-headword.ly slides-in-tablature.ly snap-pizzicato-bartok-pizzicato.ly staff-headword.ly text-headword.ly unfretted-headword.ly using-the-whiteout-property.ly vocal-headword.ly wind-headword.ly woodwind-diagrams-listing.ly -Harm Simplest way might be for Harm, David and myself to put these in the LSR. Don't think it'll take that long. I'd then check and approve them - so if I took 10 and you 2 share the others out, that should be fair? What do you think? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:57:37AM +0100, James wrote: I've updated LilyDev and been working with it this week testing the basics - it makes the code and the doc. I've given Mike a copy of the iso (as he was the only one I knew who used LilyDev in anger) actually, all official lilypond releases are built with GUB. :) (running as a standalone installation, not inside virtualbox) As far as I know, this is good to go. If you send me a link, I'll try it out because my phd dissertation has completely unravelled into not even being able to produce a pluck and I could really use something simple to work on. but if you ever wanted to make the whole doc you'd need more and 1 CPU with small amounts of RAM would take a while to compile all the doc. For LSR you don't need this, obviously. If you're just doing a normal update from LSR, then no you don't need it. But if somebody is going to be deleting the now-unneeded snippets (absolutely highly recommended, and I may even make that a Critical issue), they'll need to compile the docs to check that they haven't typo'd something. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
LSR is now on 2.14
Hi, the LSR is now using 2.14 ! For testing I added a new file: test for the new version (2.14.2) Of course this should be not approved. :) Worked fine. I noticed some problems: Sebastiano or better his LSR-set-up-code was puzzled by the files from `Documentation/snippets/new' which I had integrated according to CG 7.7 point 2 and of some other missing files. In his last mail he wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: The following 3 Snippets are unapproved, so they were not in the LSR-tarball I had downloaded. And I didn't work on them: time-signature-in-parentheses---method-3-[needs-lsr-upgrade].ly printing-figured-bass-extender-lines-without-a-starting-figure-[needs-lsr-upgrade--=-2.14].ly nokia-ringtone.ly OK. _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version Well, I didn't know there was a contributor guide :). The problem is that while this is fine, there is no procedure for inserting *new* snippet from the .ly files. My code just look at the snippets in the tarballs, matches titles, and replaces the code. I mean, I don't even *look* at the text. So these snippets will have to be inserted by means of the web interface... Do you expect further problems? I'd say no. Ciao, seba Seems CG 7.7 should be rewritten in this point. Regards, Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version The problem is that while this is fine, there is no procedure for inserting *new* snippet from the .ly files. My code just look at the snippets in the tarballs, matches titles, and replaces the code. I mean, I don't even *look* at the text. So these snippets will have to be inserted by means of the web interface.. That's what I expected. Also note that (complete guess) only 30% of files in Documentation/snippets/new can be added to LSR version 2.14.2 The bulk of those files require version 2.15.0 or higher, so they must be left in Documentation/snippets/new/. Once you've added a snippet to LSR manually and checked that it's covered by the next LSR import (I think this is only Phil at the moment, but if you want to try doing an import and put the patch on rietveld, that would be great), that file should be deleted from Documentation/snippets/new/. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 30. März 2012 01:51 schrieb Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version The problem is that while this is fine, there is no procedure for inserting *new* snippet from the .ly files. My code just look at the snippets in the tarballs, matches titles, and replaces the code. I mean, I don't even *look* at the text. So these snippets will have to be inserted by means of the web interface.. That's what I expected. Also note that (complete guess) only 30% of files in Documentation/snippets/new can be added to LSR version 2.14.2 The bulk of those files require version 2.15.0 or higher, so they must be left in Documentation/snippets/new/. I added 66 (!) files from `Documentation/snippets/new' running with 2.14. It will be a lot of work to add them manually using the web-interface. Once you've added a snippet to LSR manually and checked that it's covered by the next LSR import (I think this is only Phil at the moment, but if you want to try doing an import and put the patch on rietveld, that would be great), that file should be deleted from Documentation/snippets/new/. Well, currently I can't self-compile LilyPond or prepare a formal patch or sth else in this direction. Seems I have to learn a lot. ;) Best, Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Am 30. März 2012 02:03 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com: Am 30. März 2012 01:51 schrieb Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version The problem is that while this is fine, there is no procedure for inserting *new* snippet from the .ly files. My code just look at the snippets in the tarballs, matches titles, and replaces the code. I mean, I don't even *look* at the text. So these snippets will have to be inserted by means of the web interface.. That's what I expected. Also note that (complete guess) only 30% of files in Documentation/snippets/new can be added to LSR version 2.14.2 The bulk of those files require version 2.15.0 or higher, so they must be left in Documentation/snippets/new/. I added 66 (!) files from `Documentation/snippets/new' running with 2.14. It will be a lot of work to add them manually using the web-interface. Ok, I checked it. Only the following 37 files have to be added manually (the others are updates of existing LSR-files) alternative-breve-note.ly changing-the-ambitus-gap.ly changing-the-number-of-augmentation-dots-per-note.ly changing-the-size-of-woodwind-diagrams.ly chordchanges-for-fretboards.ly chord-glissando-in-tablature.ly controlling-spanner-visibility-after-a-line-break.ly defining-an-engraver-in-scheme-ambitus-engraver.ly dynamics-custom-text-spanner-postfix.ly dynamics-text-spanner-postfix.ly expressive-headword.ly figured-bass-headword.ly fretboards-alternate-tables.ly fretted-string-harmonics-in-tablature.ly graphical-and-text-woodwind-diagrams.ly hiding-accidentals-on-tied-notes-at-the-start-of-a-new-system.ly keyboard-headword.ly lyrics-old-spacing-settings.ly making-slurs-with-complex-dash-structure.ly non-default-tuplet-numbers.ly numbers-as-easy-note-heads.ly open-string-harmonics-in-tablature.ly pitches-headword.ly repeats-headword.ly rhythms-headword.ly screech-boink.ly setting-the-double-repeat-default-for-volte.ly simultaneous-headword.ly slides-in-tablature.ly snap-pizzicato-bartok-pizzicato.ly staff-headword.ly text-headword.ly unfretted-headword.ly using-the-whiteout-property.ly vocal-headword.ly wind-headword.ly woodwind-diagrams-listing.ly -Harm ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:03:40AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 01:51 schrieb Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:02:50AM +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 30. März 2012 00:12 schrieb Sebastiano Vigna vi...@dsi.unimi.it: _All_ Unknown files are from `Documentation/snippets/new' as requested by the Contributors Guide. see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/updating-lsr-to-a-new-version The problem is that while this is fine, there is no procedure for inserting *new* snippet from the .ly files. My code just look at the snippets in the tarballs, matches titles, and replaces the code. I mean, I don't even *look* at the text. So these snippets will have to be inserted by means of the web interface.. That's what I expected. I added 66 (!) files from `Documentation/snippets/new' running with 2.14. It will be a lot of work to add them manually using the web-interface. Recruit somebody from -user to handle it? Alternately, you could have a look at the java code that runs LSR and prepare a patch which adds this capability to it. I think it'll be far less work just to recruit one or two people from -user, teach them enough to do this task, then let them handle it. Once you've added a snippet to LSR manually and checked that it's covered by the next LSR import (I think this is only Phil at the moment, but if you want to try doing an import and put the patch on rietveld, that would be great), that file should be deleted from Documentation/snippets/new/. Well, currently I can't self-compile LilyPond or prepare a formal patch or sth else in this direction. Seems I have to learn a lot. ;) Yep. To warn you: at the moment the quick start section of the CG is broken; following its instructions will give you neither a quick nor painless start. Your options are: 1) go through the painful process of figuring out which parts are still valid and which are not. Without a mentor, this will be especially painful. 2) wait for lilydev to be updated (ETA: 6 weeks) and somebody to fix up at least the short quick start section (ETA: 1 month after lilydev is updated). 3) ask/wait for somebody else to handle the LSR import. Unfortunately there is no magic wand that will let us offer you an option other than those three. (unless I've forgotten about something, which is possible given my mental state these days. James: I have not forgotten about your recent work on lilydev, but I stand behind my pessimistic estimate) - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: LSR is now on 2.14
Hello, On 30 March 2012 02:24, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: ... Well, currently I can't self-compile LilyPond or prepare a formal patch or sth else in this direction. Seems I have to learn a lot. ;) Yep. To warn you: at the moment the quick start section of the CG is broken; following its instructions will give you neither a quick nor painless start. Your options are: 1) go through the painful process of figuring out which parts are still valid and which are not. Without a mentor, this will be especially painful. 2) wait for lilydev to be updated (ETA: 6 weeks) and somebody to fix up at least the short quick start section (ETA: 1 month after lilydev is updated). 3) ask/wait for somebody else to handle the LSR import. Unfortunately there is no magic wand that will let us offer you an option other than those three. (unless I've forgotten about something, which is possible given my mental state these days. James: I have not forgotten about your recent work on lilydev, but I stand behind my pessimistic estimate) I've updated LilyDev and been working with it this week testing the basics - it makes the code and the doc. I've given Mike a copy of the iso (as he was the only one I knew who used LilyDev in anger) and I FTP'd the iso to Phil's website last night. As far as I know, this is good to go. Thomas the ISO is a 32 bit, 10.04 version of Ubuntu that can be installed directly on hardware or, as I do, used in a Virtual Machine on any x86 based hardware (i.e. Virtual Box for Windows/Mac/Linux). I've compiled the binary using as little as 750mb of RAM with a single CPU - you'll need about 10GB of disk space (give or take), but if you ever wanted to make the whole doc you'd need more and 1 CPU with small amounts of RAM would take a while to compile all the doc. For LSR you don't need this, obviously. It doesn't do GUB, but it has everything else asked for on the tracker. I can take a look at the quick start over the weekend, but after the iso is downloaded (and I am no programmer) I can be installed with Virtual Box and have a compiled binary - of the latest dev version - in less than an hour (assuming you have a relatively fast internet to download the code) of which 80% of that is letting the computer just run. James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel