Re: License of files in Documentation/pictures and ability to distribute them unclear

2014-01-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014, Carl Peterson wrote:
 However, an alternative would be to somehow build the SVG to PNG at
 the expected size(s) as part of make. Not sure what that would take,
 though, or if it would add yet another dependency to the list.

For Debian, I'd be happy if the PNG was there so long as the SVG was
also distributed, ideally with a make rule to build the PNG. [Inkscape
is usually the easiest way to do this; I have a bunch of:

%.png: %.svg
   inkscape --without-gui --export-dpi=72 --export-png=$@ $

or variants thereof in some of my projects.]

But the most important thing for me is just the licenses of those files;
source I can figure out in most cases.

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Re: License of files in Documentation/pictures and ability to distribute them unclear

2014-01-05 Thread James

Hello,

On 05/01/14 03:51, Graham Percival wrote:

On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 03:28:22PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:

There are a lot of files in Documentation/pictures which have no clear
license, and unfortunately, the git log for them isn't clear at all
either.

Indeed; those should be clarified.


Some of them cannot be distributed by lilypond either, for example,
logo-debian.png is the Debian Restricted Use Logo.[1]

Oops.  Yes, we should replace it with the open use logo.
http://www.debian.org/logos/index.en.html


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3779

James

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Re: License of files in Documentation/pictures and ability to distribute them unclear

2014-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 03:28:22PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
 There are a lot of files in Documentation/pictures which have no clear
 license, and unfortunately, the git log for them isn't clear at all
 either.

Indeed; those should be clarified.

 Some of them cannot be distributed by lilypond either, for example,
 logo-debian.png is the Debian Restricted Use Logo.[1]

Oops.  Yes, we should replace it with the open use logo.
http://www.debian.org/logos/index.en.html

 It's great that a lot of them have the source which they were built from
 present, but there are some which are still missing the source. [For
 example, logo-debian.png can (and probably should) be built directly
 from the SVG[2] at the appropriate size (or just the SVG used).]

Due to our website hosting situation, it would be awkward to build
it directly.  As for SVG, I'm not familiar with browser and
texinfo support.  We still have something like 50% users on
windows; can IE display SVGs yet?  Also, can texinfo 4.13a handle
SVGs?

- Graham

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Re: License of files in Documentation/pictures and ability to distribute them unclear

2014-01-04 Thread Carl Peterson
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 03:28:22PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
 It's great that a lot of them have the source which they were built from
 present, but there are some which are still missing the source. [For
 example, logo-debian.png can (and probably should) be built directly
 from the SVG[2] at the appropriate size (or just the SVG used).]

 Due to our website hosting situation, it would be awkward to build
 it directly.  As for SVG, I'm not familiar with browser and
 texinfo support.  We still have something like 50% users on
 windows; can IE display SVGs yet?  Also, can texinfo 4.13a handle
 SVGs?

SVG support in browsers is still incomplete, last I checked. IE9 has
partial support, according to Wikipedia's article on SVG. Regardless,
it's not ideal. Nor is live building practical, for the reason Graham
mentioned (it would require running a server-side script with every
image request to see if the image is available, build the image if
necessary, then serve the image). However, an alternative would be to
somehow build the SVG to PNG at the expected size(s) as part of make.
Not sure what that would take, though, or if it would add yet another
dependency to the list.

Carl P.

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License of files in Documentation/pictures and ability to distribute them unclear

2014-01-03 Thread Don Armstrong
There are a lot of files in Documentation/pictures which have no clear
license, and unfortunately, the git log for them isn't clear at all
either.

Some of them cannot be distributed by lilypond either, for example,
logo-debian.png is the Debian Restricted Use Logo.[1]

It's great that a lot of them have the source which they were built from
present, but there are some which are still missing the source. [For
example, logo-debian.png can (and probably should) be built directly
from the SVG[2] at the appropriate size (or just the SVG used).]


1: http://www.debian.org/logos/index.en.html#restricted-use
2: http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-nd.svg
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