Re: Slurs without Stems (Issue #3760)
Le 05/01/2023 à 23:40, Han-Wen Nienhuys a écrit : In retrospect, I don't know if the NoteColumn grob has been a great idea: as time progressed, the original function of NoteColumn (provide the extents of a notehead + stem + flag) has been usurped by various more sophisticated mechanisms. Well, at the current point of time, positioning of chords (shifting note heads when there are second intervals) is done by the Stem grob, even for whole notes. I think it would feel more logical to have it in NoteColumn, but YMMV. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Slurs without Stems (Issue #3760)
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:09 PM Dan Eble wrote: > > Should slurs require Stem_engraver? > > No: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3760#note_339794300 > Yes: > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1800#note_1227831830 > > I'm looking for some input from old-timers to help decide this so I can avoid > wasting more time on broken or unacceptable solutions. I have no definite opinion either, and I created this mess ;-) In general, the formatting code tries to be lenient when Grobs are missing, and looks for fallbacks. This means that adding some support for finding the extremal head without a stem is fine, albeit that not all formatting may turn out correctly. In retrospect, I don't know if the NoteColumn grob has been a great idea: as time progressed, the original function of NoteColumn (provide the extents of a notehead + stem + flag) has been usurped by various more sophisticated mechanisms. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanw...@gmail.com - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen
Re: Slurs without Stems (Issue #3760)
> Should slurs require Stem_engraver? > > No: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3760#note_339794300 > Yes: > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1800#note_1227831830 > > I'm looking for some input from old-timers to help decide this so I > can avoid wasting more time on broken or unacceptable solutions. Sorry, I have no opinion on this. As far as I can see, whether to have no stem or a zero-length stem is a technical detail – beyond my paygrade :-) Werner
Slurs without Stems (Issue #3760)
Should slurs require Stem_engraver? No: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/3760#note_339794300 Yes: https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/1800#note_1227831830 I'm looking for some input from old-timers to help decide this so I can avoid wasting more time on broken or unacceptable solutions. Thanks, — Dan
