refrain lyrics

2011-02-02 Thread MING TSANG
How can I print refrain lyric centered between stanza 1 and 2?
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RE: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Patrick Horgan
Sent: 02 February 2011 04:05
To: Mailinglist lilypond-user
Subject: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo indications are (a 
selection):

Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate, Plaintive, 
Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow, Slow and distinctly, Slow 
and mournful, Slow and tenderly, Slow and with feeling, Slow with expression, 
Slow and feeling, Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With animation, With 
expression, With feeling, With spirit

What do you do with that?  I can find tables of usual tempo ranges for italian 
tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with these.  
I'd like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would be about as fast as 
the tune would usually be played in an Irish pub.  Does anyone have any ideas?

---

I don’t think there is such a thing a 'authentic' tempo range if you are 
referring to setting crotchet/quaver/minim tempo speeds.

What you are asking, it seems is, 'what speed is 'cheerful''? 

Which doesn't makes much sense. 

I expect it was simply played 'cheerfully' and that would depend on who was 
doing the playing. Also can you be sure that the same tune played in one 'Irish 
pub' is any different from a 'non-Irish pub' or that other 'Irish pub' down the 
road? The music is probably played as fast or slow as the musicians play it and 
that can depend on how many times they have played together, the smell of the 
crowd or simply the number of pints  of the 'black stuff' they have put away 
before/during the gig. ;) 110201-63

Sorry if that sounds a bit flippant, but I am not sure what kind of answer you 
are going to get other than someone else's guestimation of which you could do 
yourself.

Tempo in terms of words (rather than beat numbers) is more about feeling than 
speed. 

James




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ly:font-config-add-directory and ly:font-config-add-font

2011-02-02 Thread Gerard McConnell
Hello,
Yesterday James Lowe mentioned drew attention to Issue 1204 at:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1204

Yet again, an excellent idea from LilyPond's developers.
Could someone please give a brief example of how to use
   ly:font-config-add-directory
and
   ly:font-config-add-font


Thanks,
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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Patrick Horgan phorg...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo indications are (a
 selection):

 Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate,
 Plaintive, Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow,
 Slow and distinctly, Slow and mournful, Slow and tenderly,
 Slow and with feeling, Slow with expression, Slow and feeling,
 Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With animation, With expression,
 With feeling, With spirit

 What do you do with that?  I can find tables of usual tempo ranges for
 italian tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with these.  I'd
 like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would be about as fast as
 the tune would usually be played in an Irish pub.  Does anyone have any
 ideas?

 Patrick


Greetings, Patrick -

The tempo indications are just what they say. There's a lot of variation in
tempo for the same tune at various sessions.This may not be a lot of help,
but I would suggest three possibilities: 1) play the midi at a default or
provisional tempo, decide whether it sounds right to you, then modify the
tempo accordingly; 2) get a metronome with a beat input button, play or hum
the tune the way you think it should go, then tap the metronome button at
that pace to find the tempo; or 3) find a recording or an Irish session
musician who will play the tune for you, and determine that tempo. No hard
and fast rules, I'm afraid. I'd like to see the results when you're done.
Incidentally, if you didn't know, all the O'Neill's tunes have been
transcribed using ABC format and are freely available. Some of them  may
give tempos; I don't know. If you want to check them out, go to
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind
enter the tune name, and you can check out the ABC source file, a .jpg, a
.png, and other formats. There will be *multiple* hits for each tune. If you
want the O'Neill's, it will be identified by a number (I can't remember what
the number is) all the way to the left of the entry.

Good luck,

Ralph

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Arpeggios with arrows across voices

2011-02-02 Thread Nick Payne
In the section of the NR dealing with arpeggios, there is nothing under 
known issues and warnings regarding arpeggioArrowUp and 
arpeggioArrowDown not working to get arrowed arpeggios across voices. 
The arpeggio doesn't get an arrow unless it is explicitly overridden in 
the Staff context, as can be seen in this example:


%
\version 2.13.47

\score {
\new Staff {
\set Staff.connectArpeggios = ##t
\new Voice {
\relative c'' {
 { \arpeggioArrowUp b e g4\arpeggio }
\\ { e,\arpeggio } 
\revert Staff.Arpeggio #'stencil
\revert Staff.Arpeggio #'X-extent
\override Staff.Arpeggio #'arpeggio-direction = #UP
 { b' e g4\arpeggio }
\\ { e,\arpeggio } 
}
}
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists Span_arpeggio_engraver
}
}
}
%

Nick

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Re: alternative music font

2011-02-02 Thread Gerard McConnell
Thank you very much.
Gerard
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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-02 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
If you open the PDF in Adobe Reader, you will find a small attachment icon
at the lower left corner.
If you click that, a list of attachments will open and you can save the
tar.bz2 file.


2011/2/1 Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com

 2011/2/1 Phil Hézaine philippe.heza...@free.fr
 
  Hi,
 
  You'll find these 2 publications at:
 
  http://superbonus.project.free.fr/spip.php?article48

 Thanks!

  Discussing about the license on the Free Art mailing list I was
  forgetting to write the copyright header inside all my files! Ough!
  Fortunately Valentin was not far. His well-meaning has saved me.
  He has also given me the tip about how to include the source files
  inside the pdfs.

 That's great! I didn't know it was possible.
 How can i extract it? I have arichve manager called 7-zip, that
 handles tar.bz2, but it doesn't want to do anything with this pdf...

 cheers,
 Janek

  Many thanks again, Valentin.
  Talking of which, the included source files are tar.bz2.
  Whether it's a problem for you (Windows or Mac users) to extract the
  archive from the pdf you'll find a zip archive on the site.
 
  The next step of this project is for GNU Solfege.
 
  to Michael: I plan an update when the 2.14 is out. Perhaps the midi
  files will be renewed at this time (see the Edition's Notes). Be aware
  of that if you still want to use the source.
 
  Have fun.
  Phil.
 
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Re: refrain lyrics

2011-02-02 Thread MING TSANG
Yes,  but it took me awhile to figure how to code.  Thank you.






From: Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk
To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 11:33:54 AM
Subject: Re: refrain lyrics

Hi,


2011/2/2 MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com

How can I print refrain lyric centered between stanza 1 and 2?


Is this what you are looking for?
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

HTH.

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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Ellis
Hi Patrick,

Short of conducting extensive field research in Ireland's pubs, you might
try asking the question here.

http://www.thesession.org/discussions/

Cheers,
Mike


On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:59 AM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote:

 Hello,

 -Original Message-
 From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [mailto:
 lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe lilypond-user-bounces%2Bjames.lowe=
 datacore@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Horgan
 Sent: 02 February 2011 04:05
 To: Mailinglist lilypond-user
 Subject: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

 I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo indications are (a
 selection):

 Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate,
 Plaintive, Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow, Slow and
 distinctly, Slow and mournful, Slow and tenderly, Slow and with feeling,
 Slow with expression, Slow and feeling, Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With
 animation, With expression, With feeling, With spirit

 What do you do with that?  I can find tables of usual tempo ranges for
 italian tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with these.
 I'd like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would be about as fast
 as the tune would usually be played in an Irish pub.  Does anyone have any
 ideas?

 ---

 I don’t think there is such a thing a 'authentic' tempo range if you are
 referring to setting crotchet/quaver/minim tempo speeds.

 What you are asking, it seems is, 'what speed is 'cheerful''?

 Which doesn't makes much sense.

 I expect it was simply played 'cheerfully' and that would depend on who was
 doing the playing. Also can you be sure that the same tune played in one
 'Irish pub' is any different from a 'non-Irish pub' or that other 'Irish
 pub' down the road? The music is probably played as fast or slow as the
 musicians play it and that can depend on how many times they have played
 together, the smell of the crowd or simply the number of pints  of the
 'black stuff' they have put away before/during the gig. ;) 110201-63

 Sorry if that sounds a bit flippant, but I am not sure what kind of answer
 you are going to get other than someone else's guestimation of which you
 could do yourself.

 Tempo in terms of words (rather than beat numbers) is more about feeling
 than speed.

 James




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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-02 Thread Phil Hézaine
Le 02/02/2011 08:41, Helge Kruse a écrit :
 
  Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:13:55 +0100
 Von: Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com
 An: Phil Hézaine philippe.heza...@free.fr
 CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Betreff: Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes 
 d\'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d\'un choral.

 That's great! I didn't know it was possible.
 How can i extract it? I have arichve manager called 7-zip, that
 handles tar.bz2, but it doesn't want to do anything with this pdf...

 cheers,
 Janek
 
 When I open the file in Acrobat Reader 9 and click on the .tar.bz2 file, I 
 get the message 
 
 You have selected a file that cannotbe exported from Acrobat.
 
 What's wrong? Also, I am interested in including the source in the PDF. Where 
 can I read how to do this. I hope should be possible, even if i just had some 
 trouble with it.
 
 Regards,
 Helge

Hi,

I guess you have not the tools to uncompress the tar.bz2 archive.
However Windows is totally out of my world here.

With pdftk you can include the source in the pdf:

pdftk your_input.pdf  attach_files  your_archive.tar.bz2  output out.pdf

Have fun.
Phil.

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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-02 Thread Phil Hézaine
Le 02/02/2011 10:05, Phil Hézaine a écrit :
 With pdftk you can include the source in the pdf:
 
 pdftk your_input.pdf  attach_files  your_archive.tar.bz2  output out.pdf

... and you'll extract the archive with:

pdftk in.pdf  unpack_files  output /home/.../blabla/

Cheers.

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RE: Problem with repetition

2011-02-02 Thread James Lowe
Martin,

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Nick Payne
Sent: 01 February 2011 20:32
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Problem with repetition

On 02/02/11 04:30, Martin Chicoine wrote:
 \version 2.12.3

 \score {
   \new Staff {
 \new Voice {
\relative c'' {
   \repeat volta 2 {
  a4 b d f |
  c a c d |
  c d e a |
   }
   \alternative {
  {a c e d} |
  {a d c e} |
   }
}
 }
   }
   \layout {}
 }
You need to get rid of the barcheck between the first and second alternatives. 
You can't have anything between the closing brace of one and the opening brace 
of another. Move the barchecks inside the braces.


--

Nick is correct, and we have updated the newer version of the documentation 
explaining this so hopefully other users won't make the same mistake.

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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-02 Thread Helge Kruse

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:13:55 +0100
 Von: Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com
 An: Phil Hézaine philippe.heza...@free.fr
 CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Betreff: Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d\'anamorphoses: 
 les différentes versions d\'un choral.
 
 That's great! I didn't know it was possible.
 How can i extract it? I have arichve manager called 7-zip, that
 handles tar.bz2, but it doesn't want to do anything with this pdf...
 
 cheers,
 Janek

When I open the file in Acrobat Reader 9 and click on the .tar.bz2 file, I get 
the message 

You have selected a file that cannotbe exported from Acrobat.

What's wrong? Also, I am interested in including the source in the PDF. Where 
can I read how to do this. I hope should be possible, even if i just had some 
trouble with it.

Regards,
Helge

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Re: Problem with repetition

2011-02-02 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 1 February 2011 21:32, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:

 You need to get rid of the barcheck between the first and second
 alternatives. You can't have anything between the closing brace of one and
 the opening brace of another. Move the barchecks inside the braces.

Yes, a big NOTE has been added to the documentation about this, further
to people doing exactly your mistake.
See NR 1.4.1 Long repeats, last version
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/long-repeats.html

Cordialement,
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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-02 Thread Nick Payne

On 02/02/11 20:05, Phil Hézaine wrote:

Le 02/02/2011 08:41, Helge Kruse a écrit :

 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:13:55 +0100
Von: Jan Warchołlemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com
An: Phil Hézainephilippe.heza...@free.fr
CC: lilypond-userlilypond-user@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d\'anamorphoses: 
les différentes versions d\'un choral.

That's great! I didn't know it was possible.
How can i extract it? I have arichve manager called 7-zip, that
handles tar.bz2, but it doesn't want to do anything with this pdf...

cheers,
Janek

When I open the file in Acrobat Reader 9 and click on the .tar.bz2 file, I get 
the message

You have selected a file that cannotbe exported from Acrobat.

What's wrong? Also, I am interested in including the source in the PDF. Where 
can I read how to do this. I hope should be possible, even if i just had some 
trouble with it.

Regards,
Helge

Hi,

I guess you have not the tools to uncompress the tar.bz2 archive.
However Windows is totally out of my world here.

With pdftk you can include the source in the pdf:

pdftk your_input.pdf  attach_files  your_archive.tar.bz2  output out.pdf
No, the problem is that Acrobat has some security settings that don't 
allow some file tyres, such as ZIP, EXE, BZ2 etc, to be opened/saved. 
From the Adobe web site on Trust Manager settings in Acrobat:


To open the Trust Manager preferences, open the Preferences dialog box, 
and select Trust Manager on the left.


Allow Opening Of Non-PDF File Attachments With External Applications
When selected, allows file attachments to start external applications 
when you open the files. You must have the external applications to open 
the files. Note: For security reasons, certain file types (such as .zip 
and .exe files) cannot be saved or opened with Acrobat. Acrobat products 
maintain a registry/plist-level black and white list of file types that 
can be saved and opened with Acrobat. You cannot change this list by 
using the Acrobat interface. The only way to change the list is by 
manually editing the registry, which is not recommended. Acrobat allows 
you to attach files that cannot be saved or opened from the application. 
However, this practice is not recommended.


On Windows, you can edit the registry to gain access to the attachment 
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Adobe\Adobe 
Acrobat\9.0\FeatureLockDown\cDefaultLaunchAttachmentPerms. 
tBuiltInPermList is the REG_SZ value to change.), but on Linux, which 
is I what I'm using, I believe that the attachment is completely 
inaccessible.


If you want the attachment to be accessible, you can change the file 
extension to something allowed before attaching it - eg make it 
file.tar.bz2.txt - but the user then needs to be savvy enough to rename 
the file after saving it.


Nick

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Re: refrain lyrics

2011-02-02 Thread Marek Klein
Hi,

2011/2/2 MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com

 How can I print refrain lyric centered between stanza 1 and 2?


Is this what you are looking for?
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

HTH.

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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English (music question, not Lilypond question)

2011-02-02 Thread Tim Reeves
What you are asking, it seems is, 'what speed is 'cheerful''? 
Which doesn't makes much sense. 



I disagree... at least in part.
I think that there is a range of speeds that most musicians would say 
Yes, that is cheerful. when they hear it.
In other words it requires some musicality, some judgment, since it is 
less prescriptive than the Beethoven score where he writes half-note = 72.

There are certainly tempos which are not cheerful (e.g. quarter-note = 
52).

If you get it wrong in the MIDI file, don't feel bad. 
I've heard, for example, performances of Tchaikovsky's Fifth by 
professional orchestras (I know, it's the conductors fault, not the 
orchestra's) where the second movement was painfully slow - just WRONG to 
my ears (...and it's much harder to play the horn solo well ;-)

I'm sure there's more variability (of performance tempi) in Irish folk 
tunes than in Tchaikovsky symphonies, so it is to be expected.
Besides, I don't think anyone will confuse a MIDI performance with a 
live performance, and place too high an expectation on authenticity.


Tim Reeves




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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals ... extracting tar.bz2 files

2011-02-02 Thread Tim Reeves
7-Zip (which will extract tar and tar.bz2 files) is available for Windows 
and should solve this problem.

I use it with Windows XP. It's much better than WinZip.

from www.7-zip.org : 

The main features of 7-Zip
High compression ratio in 7z format with LZMA and LZMA2 compression
Supported formats:
Packing / unpacking: 7z, XZ, BZIP2, GZIP, TAR, ZIP and WIM
Unpacking only: ARJ, CAB, CHM, CPIO, CramFS, DEB, DMG, FAT, HFS, ISO, LZH, 
LZMA, MBR, MSI, NSIS, NTFS, RAR, RPM, SquashFS, UDF, VHD, WIM, XAR and Z.
For ZIP and GZIP formats, 7-Zip provides a compression ratio that is 2-10 
% better than the ratio provided by PKZip and WinZip
Strong AES-256 encryption in 7z and ZIP formats
Self-extracting capability for 7z format
Integration with Windows Shell
Powerful File Manager
Powerful command line version
Plugin for FAR Manager
Localizations for 79 languages


Tim Reeves

 
 Message: 6
 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 10:05:47 +0100
 From: Phil H?zaine philippe.heza...@free.fr
 Subject: Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals ? 4 voix + Etudes
d'anamorphoses: les diff?rentes versions d'un choral.
 To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Message-ID: 4d491e6b.3030...@free.fr
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Le 02/02/2011 08:41, Helge Kruse a écrit :
  
   Original-Nachricht 
  Datum: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:13:55 +0100
  Von: Jan Warchoł lemniskata.bernoulli...@gmail.com
  An: Phil Hézaine philippe.heza...@free.fr
  CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Betreff: Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d
 \'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d\'un choral.
 
  That's great! I didn't know it was possible.
  How can i extract it? I have arichve manager called 7-zip, that
  handles tar.bz2, but it doesn't want to do anything with this pdf...
 
  cheers,
  Janek
  
  When I open the file in Acrobat Reader 9 and click on the .tar.bz2 
 file, I get the message 
  
  You have selected a file that cannotbe exported from Acrobat.
  
  What's wrong? Also, I am interested in including the source in the 
PDF.
 Where can I read how to do this. I hope should be possible, even if i 
 just had some trouble with it.
  
  Regards,
  Helge
 
 Hi,
 
 I guess you have not the tools to uncompress the tar.bz2 archive.
 However Windows is totally out of my world here.
 
 With pdftk you can include the source in the pdf:
 
 pdftk your_input.pdf  attach_files  your_archive.tar.bz2  output out.pdf
 
 Have fun.
 Phil.
 

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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread Patrick Horgan

On 02/02/2011 03:59 AM, James Lowe wrote:

... elision by patrick ...

I don’t think there is such a thing a 'authentic' tempo range if you are 
referring to setting crotchet/quaver/minim tempo speeds.

What you are asking, it seems is, 'what speed is 'cheerful''?

Which doesn't makes much sense.

I expect it was simply played 'cheerfully' and that would depend on who was 
doing the playing. Also can you be sure that the same tune played in one 'Irish 
pub' is any different from a 'non-Irish pub' or that other 'Irish pub' down the 
road? The music is probably played as fast or slow as the musicians play it and 
that can depend on how many times they have played together, the smell of the 
crowd or simply the number of pints  of the 'black stuff' they have put away 
before/during the gig. ;) 110201-63

Sorry if that sounds a bit flippant, but I am not sure what kind of answer you 
are going to get other than someone else's guestimation of which you could do 
yourself.

Tempo in terms of words (rather than beat numbers) is more about feeling than 
speed.
So what you're saying is that you really don't know.  Still, there must 
be a normal range for a fast jig for example.  If you don't know it's 
ok, but hopefully someone will know.


I don't know the repertoire, but I want to, (on guitar), and it would be 
helpful to know if I'm learning something at half the speed most would 
play it, or conversely at twice the speed.  I'm not looking for anything 
exact, but it would be nice to be in the ballpark rather than down the 
street.


Patrick


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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread Patrick Horgan

On 02/02/2011 06:43 AM, Michael Ellis wrote:

Hi Patrick,

Short of conducting extensive field research in Ireland's pubs, you 
might try asking the question here.


http://www.thesession.org/discussions/

Cheers,
Mike


What a treasure.  Thank you mike.  It lead me to 
http://www.itma.ie/English/Introduction.html.


Patrick

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Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-02 Thread Patrick Horgan

On 02/02/2011 03:30 AM, Ralph Palmer wrote:



On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Patrick Horgan phorg...@yahoo.com 
mailto:phorg...@yahoo.com wrote:


I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo
indications are (a selection):

Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate,
Plaintive, Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow,
Slow and distinctly, Slow and mournful, Slow and tenderly,
Slow and with feeling, Slow with expression, Slow and feeling,
Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With animation, With expression,
With feeling, With spirit

What do you do with that?  I can find tables of usual tempo ranges
for italian tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with
these.  I'd like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would
be about as fast as the tune would usually be played in an Irish
pub.  Does anyone have any ideas?

Patrick


Greetings, Patrick -

The tempo indications are just what they say. There's a lot of 
variation in tempo for the same tune at various sessions.This may not 
be a lot of help, but I would suggest three possibilities: 1) play the 
midi at a default or provisional tempo, decide whether it sounds right 
to you, then modify the tempo accordingly;

But I don't know the repertoire so I don't know what sounds right.
2) get a metronome with a beat input button, play or hum the tune the 
way you think it should go, then tap the metronome button at that pace 
to find the tempo; or

Again, I don't know the repertoire.
3) find a recording or an Irish session musician who will play the 
tune for you, and determine that tempo.
I've tried with some of that with youtube.  Still not helpful for most, 
cause I can't find them.
No hard and fast rules, I'm afraid. I'd like to see the results when 
you're done. Incidentally, if you didn't know, all the O'Neill's tunes 
have been transcribed using ABC format and are freely available. Some 
of them  may give tempos; I don't know. If you want to check them out, 
go to
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind 
http://trillian.mit.edu/%7Ejc/cgi/abc/tunefind
enter the tune name, and you can check out the ABC source file, a 
.jpg, a .png, and other formats.
Yeah, I know that site.  They mention the same problem and that most of 
the files don't have any real tempo indications so the midi files are 
often at weird speeds.
There will be *multiple* hits for each tune. If you want the 
O'Neill's, it will be identified by a number (I can't remember what 
the number is) all the way to the left of the entry.

Thank you,

Patrick

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Re: guitarist: how write chord names like Gadd5

2011-02-02 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 09:13:44 Jürgen Ibelgaufts wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I want to write down guitar chords and frets with extra voicings, say
 a G chord with an extra Fifth on the B string, 3rd fret, or Em chord
 with an extra G on the treble e string.

The whole idea of chord names is that one G is the same as
another. A few extensions have come in over the years, the most
important being the slash bass.

Either populate your score with diagrams or tab or write out what
you want. There is no need to mess with the regular chord names.
You will find that useless innovations which are doomed to
obsolescence are not appreciated, and even less appreciated if
they require explanation. Regards, daveA

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http://www.openguitar.com/scalescomparison.html ::: plus new and
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Re: [tablatures] Re: error in predefined chord diagram?

2011-02-02 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 2/2/11 11:10 AM, Ronald Hochreiter ron...@subjectmusic.com wrote:

 Dear Carl, Bart, David,
 
 don't know if my input is of any use, however - without fingering:
 
 Ddim xx0131
 Edim 0120x0
 
 Starting from the Fdim it get's a bit more complicated in standard
 tuning, see e.g. Fdim, where you'd have three possibilities:
 
 a) 1231xx or 1231x1

This is just Edim above up one fret, right?
This could be useful for higher chords:

f:dim 1231x1
fis:dim   2342x2
g:dim 3453x3
gis:dim   4564x4
a:dim 5675x5
bes:dim   6786x6
b:dim 7897x7


 b) xx6464 or 4x6464

This fingering for the Fdim seems to be a very versatile fingering that I'd
expect to see used a lot.  I know that I'd personaly like it, because it's
relatively easy and consistent:

cis:dim   xx2020
d:dim xx3131
ees:dim   xx4242
e:dim xx5353
f:dim xx6464


 c) x89A9x (A = 10)

This one is also useful

a:dim   x0121x
bes:dim x1232x
b:dim   x2343x
c:dim   x3454x
cis:dim x4565x
d:dim   x5676x
ees:dim x6787x
e:dim  x7898x
f:dim  x89a9x

This gives lots of opportunities for the table below.

I tend to favor diagrams with low fret numbers and muted strings at either
the top or the bottom, rather than in the middle.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Carl

 
 c:dim    x;3-4;1-1;o;1-2;o;
 c:dim7   x;x;1-1;2-3;1-2;2-4;
 cis:dim    x;4-4;2-3;1-1;2-2;1-1;
 cis:dim7   offset c:dim7 one fret
 d:dim
 d:dim7     x;x;o;1-1;o;1-2;
 dis:dim    2-2;o;1-1;2-3;x;2-4;
 dis:dim7    x;x;1-1;2-3;1-2;2-4;
 e:dim
 e:dim7    offset dis:dim7 one fret
 f:dim
 f:dim7    x;x;o;1-1;o;1-2;
 fis:dim
 fis:dim7    same as dis:dim7
 g:dim
 g:dim7    x;x;5-2;6-4;5-3;3-1;
 gis:dim
 gis:dim7   same as f:dim7
 a:dim
 a:dim7     same as ees:dim7
 ais:dim
 ais:dim7   offset ees:dim7 one fret
 b:dim
 b:dim7     same as d:dim7
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Carl
 
 
 
 


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