Re: [tablatures] Re: error in predefined chord diagram?

2011-02-03 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 03.02.2011 05:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen:

[...]

a) 1231xx or 1231x1

This is just Edim above up one fret, right?
This could be useful for higher chords:

f:dim 1231x1
fis:dim   2342x2
g:dim 3453x3
gis:dim   4564x4
a:dim 5675x5
bes:dim   6786x6
b:dim 7897x7



b) xx6464 or 4x6464

This fingering for the Fdim seems to be a very versatile fingering that I'd
expect to see used a lot.  I know that I'd personaly like it, because it's
relatively easy and consistent:

cis:dim   xx2020
d:dim xx3131
ees:dim   xx4242
e:dim xx5353
f:dim xx6464



c) x89A9x (A = 10)

This one is also useful

a:dim   x0121x
bes:dim x1232x
b:dim   x2343x
c:dim   x3454x
cis:dim x4565x
d:dim   x5676x
ees:dim x6787x
e:dim  x7898x
f:dim  x89a9x

This gives lots of opportunities for the table below.

I tend to favor diagrams with low fret numbers and muted strings at either
the top or the bottom, rather than in the middle.

Hello Carl, hello guitarists out there ;-)

sorry for joining so late in this discussion - I think that the voicings 
b) and c)

are very useful and sound good, whereas these mentioned in a) are way too
complicated to use, and if you use the short form with the lowest four 
strings,

they do not sound convincing.

Since I mostly have to use a dim7, I am not sure which voicing would be
more universal, though.

Regards,

Marc

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Carl


c:dimx;3-4;1-1;o;1-2;o;
c:dim7   x;x;1-1;2-3;1-2;2-4;
cis:dimx;4-4;2-3;1-1;2-2;1-1;
cis:dim7   offset c:dim7 one fret
d:dim
d:dim7 x;x;o;1-1;o;1-2;
dis:dim2-2;o;1-1;2-3;x;2-4;
dis:dim7x;x;1-1;2-3;1-2;2-4;
e:dim
e:dim7offset dis:dim7 one fret
f:dim
f:dim7x;x;o;1-1;o;1-2;
fis:dim
fis:dim7same as dis:dim7
g:dim
g:dim7x;x;5-2;6-4;5-3;3-1;
gis:dim
gis:dim7   same as f:dim7
a:dim
a:dim7 same as ees:dim7
ais:dim
ais:dim7   offset ees:dim7 one fret
b:dim
b:dim7 same as d:dim7


Thanks,

Carl






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RE: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

2011-02-03 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Patrick Horgan
Sent: 02 February 2011 21:53
To: 'Mailinglist lilypond-user'
Subject: Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English

 So what you're saying is that you really don't know.  

No, what I am saying is there is no definite answer. 

You can look in a dozen different places and you will get a different tempo 
(even for established tempos like 'Andante'), sure you will get a range of 
tempo but that is someone else's guess.

The ideal tempo is the one that you (or your ensemble) are most comfortable 
playing at and the one which suits the time and the place.

Go and listen to some of the music you are intending on setting and tap the 
rhythm and see how many 'beats per minute' you get and there's your tempo.

Seriously, you want someone to give you a tempo for 'cheerfully' or 'with 
feeling'? These are not tempos but are 'ways' of playing.

Music isn't an exact science it's always about feeling. Play the speed that 
'sounds' good to you. That is the correct tempo. 

James
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Fingerings, Slurs and PhraseSlurs.

2011-02-03 Thread Phil Burfitt

Hello,

Is it possible to have fingerings and stroke fingerings placed outside of 
slurs, but inside of phrase slurs ?


The following...

\override Score.StrokeFinger #'avoid-slur = #'outside
\override Score.Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside

place fingerings outside of both slurs and phrasing slurs.

Regards,
Phil.






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Re: Fingerings, Slurs and PhraseSlurs.

2011-02-03 Thread -Eluze


phil.burfitt wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Is it possible to have fingerings and stroke fingerings placed outside of 
 slurs, but inside of phrase slurs ?
 

one way is:

\relative c'' {
  \override Slur#'outside-staff-priority = #100
  \override Fingering #'outside-staff-priority = #200
  \override PhrasingSlur #'outside-staff-priority = #300
  c \(-1
  d (-3
  e -1 )
  f -2 \)
}

hth
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FW: Problem with repetition

2011-02-03 Thread James Lowe


From: Martin Chicoine [mailto:martin.chico...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 February 2011 14:18
To: James Lowe
Subject: Re: Problem with repetition


2011/2/2 James Lowe james.l...@datacore.commailto:james.l...@datacore.com

You need to get rid of the barcheck between the first and second alternatives. 
You can't have anything between the closing brace of one and the opening brace 
of another. Move the barchecks inside the braces.


--

Nick is correct, and we have updated the newer version of the documentation 
explaining this so hopefully other users won't make the same mistake.

Thanks for your kind answers. Updating the documentation is fine but would it 
be possible for Lilypond to give a more informative error message also?
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Re: guitarist: how write chord names like Gadd5

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Warchoł
2011/2/1 Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net

 Jazz guitarist and Lilypond user here.  I would call that a G(no 3rd)

I'd say that it's a Gsus chord. It means basically the same: a chord
with no third.
Usually the third is replaced by a fourth or a second:
Gsus2 = g a d,
Gsus4 = g c d,
So to me it seems perfectly natural to write
Gsus = g d.

LilyPond accepts g:sus as an input, but prints G as the name of the
chord, without sus.

2011/2/3 David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com:
 The whole idea of chord names is that one G is the same as
 another. A few extensions have come in over the years, the most
 important being the slash bass.

So, because there is a need to distinguish between G and G/B (they
sound quite different!),
i'd say that there is a reason to distinguish between g b d and g b d d'.
I'd even say that it would make sense to write explicit treble notes
in superscript,
for example C^E would mean c e g e'.

 Either populate your score with diagrams or tab or write out what
 you want. There is no need to mess with the regular chord names.
 You will find that useless innovations which are doomed to
 obsolescence are not appreciated, and even less appreciated if
 they require explanation.

?
At least on the guitar, Gadd5, G5, G12 are self-explanatory!
In my opinion it's obvious that they mean: add a fifth somewhere in
the treble range.

cheers,
Janek

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failed fondu command

2011-02-03 Thread Neil Thornock
I recently installed 2.12.3 from darwinports.  I've been using
Baskerville font in my scores just fine, but now I get this error
message:

Layout output to 'mollus.ps'...
`cd /var/tmp/tmp.0.0KUXyc  fondu -force
'/Library/Fonts/Baskerville.dfont'' failed (32512)
error: failed files: mollus.ly

I can run the command fine on command line; so I'm not sure why this
would be failing.  Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Neil


-- 
Neil Thornock, D.M.
The recent BYU Symphony Orchestra performance of Plutoids:
http://neilthornock.net/mp3s/plutoids.mp3
Assistant Professor of Music
Composition/Theory
Brigham Young University

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Re: ANN: J. S. Bach - 371 Chorals à 4 voix + Etudes d'anamorphoses: les différentes versions d'un choral.

2011-02-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio, 03/02/2011 alle 06.00 +1100, Nick Payne ha scritto:
 but on Linux, which 
 is I what I'm using, I believe that the attachment is completely 
 inaccessible 

that's probably true for Acroreader

try Okular
when you open the pdf file, Okular tells you that there is an attachment
and you can save it


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Re: guitarist: how write chord names like Gadd5

2011-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara

On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Jan Warchoł wrote:

 2011/2/1 Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
 
 Jazz guitarist and Lilypond user here.  I would call that a G(no 3rd)
 
 I'd say that it's a Gsus chord. It means basically the same: a chord
 with no third.
 Usually the third is replaced by a fourth or a second:
 Gsus2 = g a d,
 Gsus4 = g c d,

The 3rd is replaced by either the major 2nd or the perfect 4th; that is part of 
the definition of a sus chord which needs to specify which note is being added 
in place of the 3rd.

 So to me it seems perfectly natural to write
 Gsus = g d.

But incorrect.  g d is not a chord, it is a double stop.

 LilyPond accepts g:sus as an input, but prints G as the name of the
 chord, without sus.

As it should, since the note replacing the 3rd should be specified.  Gsus is 
an incomplete chord name.

 2011/2/3 David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com:
 The whole idea of chord names is that one G is the same as
 another. A few extensions have come in over the years, the most
 important being the slash bass.
 
 So, because there is a need to distinguish between G and G/B (they
 sound quite different!),
 i'd say that there is a reason to distinguish between g b d and g b d d'.
 I'd even say that it would make sense to write explicit treble notes
 in superscript,
 for example C^E would mean c e g e'.
 
 Either populate your score with diagrams or tab or write out what
 you want. There is no need to mess with the regular chord names.
 You will find that useless innovations which are doomed to
 obsolescence are not appreciated, and even less appreciated if
 they require explanation.
 
 ?
 At least on the guitar, Gadd5, G5, G12 are self-explanatory!
 In my opinion it's obvious that they mean: add a fifth somewhere in
 the treble range.

Gadd5, G5 and G12 seem like nonsense to me aimed at accommodating rock power 
chords which aren't really chords.  I don't think it does any service to have 
Lilypond perpetuate incorrect nomenclature.

If the user wants chord charts that show the explicit voicing desired, then 
IMHO that voicing should be written out in proper chord form g, b d g d' g' 
and Lilypond should place those notes in the diagram correctly.  This is much 
simpler than trying to make Lilypond guess what is meant by some non-standard 
nomenclature like g1:add5.  That way lies madness for the people writing the 
Lilypond code base.



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