Re: Multimeasure rests over a cadenza
Am 9. April 2012 04:26 schrieb James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com:
At Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:39:13 -0500,
David Nalesnik wrote:
Hi James,
Possibly the following thread will be useful to you:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg68492.html
Thanks, this is a lot closer. (By the way, it seems that mail-archive is on
the wrong side of the Great Firewall of China -- not a big deal, but it did
make it less convenient to access the link. Speaking just for myself, I'd
prefer links to gmane or nabble archives.)
It's closer -- I'm now getting bar check failures only at the ends of the
two cadenzas, where I think I was getting more of them before. But, it's
still failing and the multi-measure rests are drawn in the wrong place.
So, a more illustrative example, using actual notes from my piece and
replicating the context (one bar of cadenza, one metered bar, and another bar
of cadenza).
It looks to me like time advances the correct number of beats, but LP doesn't
recognize that it should roll over to the next bar at that point. I'm
guessing that for each cadenza + following-bar pair, where there should be
two full-bar rests, only one is being drawn (probably the first one, for the
cadenza) and the other one is being dropped because of the bar check failure.
Then it draws the single full-bar rest in the middle of the span for /both/
bars.
It doesn't help to include an explicit \bar | after the \cadenzaToMusic
calls.
LP output. For debugging I restored the (format...) call, which shows that
the duration of both cadenzas is being calculated correctly.
Hi James,
the cadenzaToMusic-function _replaces_ \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff.
If you delete these commands it works and there is no need for manual bars:
\version 2.14.2
cadenzaToMusic =
#(define-music-function (parser location cadenzaMusic music)
(ly:music? ly:music?)
Adjust the length of `music and the measureLength, to fit the length of
`cadenzaMusic
(let* ((clen (ly:music-length cadenzaMusic))
(mlen (ly:music-length music))
(factor (ly:moment-div clen mlen))
(compressed (ly:music-compress music factor)))
;; (format #t factor : ~a\n factor)
#{
\set Timing.measureLength = $clen
$compressed
\unset Timing.measureLength
#}))
\include english.ly
cadenzaC = \relative c''' {
b2 ^\markup { \italic cadenza } ~
\oneVoice b8 \fermata [a8] ) e'16 ( [a, fs a] \voiceOne b4 \fermata ~
}
cadenzaD = \relative c''' {
b4 ~ ^\markup { \italic cadenza } b8 \fermata [a8] ) g16 ( [fs e d
e fs ] e4 ) \fermata ~
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\key d \major \numericTimeSignature
R1
\cadenzaToMusic \cadenzaC R1
R1
\cadenzaToMusic \cadenzaD R1
R1
}
\new Staff \relative c''' {
\key d \major \numericTimeSignature
r2 r4 a4 (
\cadenzaC
b1 ~
\cadenzaD
e,4. r8 r2
}
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: Multimeasure rests over a cadenza
Hello, On 9 April 2012 11:03, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 9. April 2012 04:26 schrieb James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com: At Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:39:13 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi James, Possibly the following thread will be useful to you: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg68492.html Thanks, this is a lot closer. (By the way, it seems that mail-archive is on the wrong side of the Great Firewall of China -- not a big deal, but it did make it less convenient to access the link. Speaking just for myself, I'd prefer links to gmane or nabble archives.) It's closer -- I'm now getting bar check failures only at the ends of the two cadenzas, where I think I was getting more of them before. But, it's still failing and the multi-measure rests are drawn in the wrong place. So, a more illustrative example, using actual notes from my piece and replicating the context (one bar of cadenza, one metered bar, and another bar of cadenza). It looks to me like time advances the correct number of beats, but LP doesn't recognize that it should roll over to the next bar at that point. I'm guessing that for each cadenza + following-bar pair, where there should be two full-bar rests, only one is being drawn (probably the first one, for the cadenza) and the other one is being dropped because of the bar check failure. Then it draws the single full-bar rest in the middle of the span for /both/ bars. It doesn't help to include an explicit \bar | after the \cadenzaToMusic calls. LP output. For debugging I restored the (format...) call, which shows that the duration of both cadenzas is being calculated correctly. Hi James, the cadenzaToMusic-function _replaces_ \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. If you delete these commands it works and there is no need for manual bars: Thanks Thomas, I have added this snippet to the LilyPond Snippet Repository - awaiting approval. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics vertical spacing and dynamics with extra-offset
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:54:24PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: Is that a bug? Or am I making a mistake here? It's not a bug, and not really a mistake either. But extra-offset should be used only as a last resort, as the extra displacement is made only _after_ _all_ typesetting is finished. So extra space is ignored. In other words zou should override X-offset and Y-offset here, not extra-offset. aha. I tried X-offset at other places and hoped that the dynamic would automatically move closer to the staff once it’s clear of its note, but neither happened. I guess I have to re-read that part of the manual and try again. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Please do not use my email addresses within any Facebook service. :Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 11:27 PM, trandrusiii tr.and...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. The problem I am having now is different. When I attempt to add a hairpin decres the spacing of my entire piece gets corrupted. I've attached a screencap to illustrate. I would like the spacing to remain at 31 or 32 pages. http://old.nabble.com/file/p33649921/spacingproblem.jpg spacingproblem.jpg The diffference is so big after only adding a hairpin? That's definitely a bug. Please create a tiny example (i.e. keep deleting things from your source file while checking if adding hairpin changes spacing. The remaining code should be less than 30 lines long, maybe even shorter) and submit a bug report (http://lilypond.org/bug-reports.html) thanks, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multimeasure rests over a cadenza
At Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:03:05 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: Am 9. April 2012 04:26 schrieb James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com: It's closer -- I'm now getting bar check failures only at the ends of the two cadenzas, where I think I was getting more of them before. But, it's still failing and the multi-measure rests are drawn in the wrong place. Hi James, the cadenzaToMusic-function _replaces_ \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. If you delete these commands it works and there is no need for manual bars: Ah, OK, I didn't get the replacing part. Thanks for clarifying. I have a deadline for tomorrow so I can't try it right now, but will do it as soon as I can. Thanks! James -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal. -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musicxml2ly
Hi Martin, yes, we are currently working on the musicxml2ly scripts and we have solved e.g. the issue concerning the chord symbols you mentioned. I haven't had time to work on the patch James pointed to but it works as it is. We use it on www.philomelos.net. Philomelos is a new community site for free and editable sheet music. The private beta version includes the ability to read and share MusicXML files that are displayed online using LilyPond technology. If someone wants to be invited: drop me a line offlist. We will share all improvements on musicxml2ly but we could also need some help! We are planning to add a blog/wiki to our website so that philomelos can be used to test MusicXML files and to share music sheets and knowledge concerning MusicXML, conversions between musical notation codes... Cheers, patrick Am 08.04.2012 um 19:13 schrieb James: Hello, On 8 April 2012 17:47, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote: ... Or are many problems already known? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=musicxmlsort=prioritycolspec=IDx=typey=prioritymode=gridcells=tiles There is also this recent - seemingly unfinished patch http://codereview.appspot.com/5697059/ And see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-12/msg00025.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00280.html This will give you an idea of the current issues and the effort still required. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Hello, Is there a way to manually move some of the notes in a chord to
the opposite side of the stem, overriding the default placement?
I have looked through the docs and did not find a simple way to do this
(the |NoteColumn #'force-hshift| property only works with notes in
different voices, and trying to \override NoteHead #'X-offset within a
chord just returned an error). The best thing I came up with was this
snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
Following its example I was able to get the results I needed by doing this:
shiftR = {
\once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
\once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
}
c' e' g' 4
{ c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' f' a'
{ d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
See attached screenshot. But it seems like there should be a way to do
this without having to introduce another voice? Or maybe not... I
realize this is a relatively obscure usage.
(Ultimately, I would like for the notes in harmonic intervals of 3
semitones or smaller to always appear on opposite sides of the stem.
But I would not know how to do that automatically, if it is even possible.)
Thanks!
-Paul
http://twinnote.org
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Re: tie to note inside double backslashing voicing
On Apr 9, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 11:27 PM, trandrusiii tr.and...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi. The problem I am having now is different. When I attempt to add a hairpin
decres the spacing of my entire piece gets corrupted. I've attached a
screencap to illustrate. I would like the spacing to remain at 31 or 32
pages.
http://old.nabble.com/file/p33649921/spacingproblem.jpg spacingproblem.jpg
The diffference is so big after only adding a hairpin? That's
definitely a bug. Please create a tiny example (i.e. keep deleting
things from your source file while checking if adding hairpin changes
spacing. The remaining code should be less than 30 lines long, maybe
even shorter) and submit a bug report
(http://lilypond.org/bug-
But isn't there a timing problem in the { s4\ s4\!} measure? 2 vs. 3 beats?
Stan
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Two voice notes with one voice rests
Hello,
how can I write accords with stems like as used in two voices?
In the following example I would like to us the notes and stems from the
first measure and the rests from the second measure.
\relative c'' {
{ d8 r d r d r d r } \\ { b8 r b r b r b r }
b d r b d r b d r b d r
}
Regards,
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Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Am 9. April 2012 03:25 schrieb Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com:
Hello, Is there a way to manually move some of the notes in a chord to the
opposite side of the stem, overriding the default placement?
I have looked through the docs and did not find a simple way to do this (the
NoteColumn #'force-hshift property only works with notes in different
voices, and trying to \override NoteHead #'X-offset within a chord just
returned an error). The best thing I came up with was this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
Following its example I was able to get the results I needed by doing this:
shiftR = {
\once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
\once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
}
c' e' g' 4
{ c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' f' a'
{ d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
See attached screenshot. But it seems like there should be a way to do this
without having to introduce another voice?
Use a tweak.
Perhaps:
\version 2.14.2
horOff =
#(define-music-function (parser location x-off music) (number? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property music 'tweaks)
(acons 'extra-offset (cons x-off 0)
(ly:music-property music 'tweaks)))
music)
%shiftR = {
% \once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
% \once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
%}
{
c' e' \horOff #1.2 g' 4
% { c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' \horOff #1.2 f' \horOff #1.2 a'
% { d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: Two voice notes with one voice rests
- Original Message -
From: Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: Two voice notes with one voice rests
Hello,
how can I write accords with stems like as used in two voices?
In the following example I would like to us the notes and stems from the
first measure and the rests from the second measure.
\relative c'' {
{ d8 r d r d r d r } \\ { b8 r b r b r b r }
b d r b d r b d r b d r
}
Regards,
Helge
Here's one way:
\relative c'' {
{ \override Rest #'staff-position = #0 d8 r d r d r d r } \\ { b8 s b
s b s b s }
b d r b d r b d r b d r
}
--
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Avoiding tie/prall collision
Hello,
I have some measures with similar rhythmic pattern but different pitch.
But all look similar like this:
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 s2. \stemUp
d4~ d16 a' g\prall fis e\prall d cis\prall b | % 33
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 \clef bass s2. \stemDown
\change Staff=right r16 a' g\prall fis g4 \change Staff=left r | % 33
}
Every time I get a collision between the tie and the prall ornament. I
already changed the tie to d4^~ d16 but the \prall is still above the
system. What is the best way to move the prall ornament below the tie?
Regards,
Helge
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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Am 9. April 2012 20:53 schrieb Helge Kruse helge.kruse-nos...@gmx.net:
Hello,
I have some measures with similar rhythmic pattern but different pitch. But
all look similar like this:
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 s2. \stemUp
d4~ d16 a' g\prall fis e\prall d cis\prall b | % 33
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 \clef bass s2. \stemDown
\change Staff=right r16 a' g\prall fis g4 \change Staff=left r | % 33
}
Every time I get a collision between the tie and the prall ornament. I
already changed the tie to d4^~ d16 but the \prall is still above the
system. What is the best way to move the prall ornament below the tie?
Regards,
Helge
I'd use \override Script #'staff-padding = #'() and \voiceOne,
\voiceTwo and \oneVoice:
\version 2.14.2
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 s2. \voiceOne
d4~ d16 a' g\prall fis e\prall d cis\prall b | % 33
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\override Script #'staff-padding = #'()
\key g \major \time 3/4 \clef bass s2. \voiceTwo
\change Staff=right r16 a' g^\prall fis g4 \change Staff=left
\oneVoice r | % 33
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Thomas Morley wrote:
Am 9. April 2012 03:25 schrieb Paul Morrisp...@paulwmorris.com:
Hello, Is there a way to manually move some of the notes in a chord to the
opposite side of the stem, overriding the default placement?
I have looked through the docs and did not find a simple way to do this (the
NoteColumn #'force-hshift property only works with notes in different
voices, and trying to \override NoteHead #'X-offset within a chord just
returned an error). The best thing I came up with was this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
Following its example I was able to get the results I needed by doing this:
shiftR = {
\once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
\once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
}
c' e' g'4
{c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' f' a'
{ d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
See attached screenshot. But it seems like there should be a way to do this
without having to introduce another voice?
Use a tweak.
Perhaps:
\version 2.14.2
horOff =
#(define-music-function (parser location x-off music) (number? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property music 'tweaks)
(acons 'extra-offset (cons x-off 0)
(ly:music-property music 'tweaks)))
music)
%shiftR = {
% \once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
% \once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
%}
{
c' e' \horOff #1.2 g'4
% {c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' \horOff #1.2 f' \horOff #1.2 a'
% { d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
}
HTH,
Harm
Thank you! This works, but unfortunately (like the Hydra's heads) it
introduces two other problems, one with horizontal spacing collisions
and one with ledger lines.
1. Because the spacing engine does not take into account this low-level
tweak, the tweaked notes sometimes collide with bar/measure lines and
sometimes with other adjacent notes. Is there a way to use Scheme to
also increase the horizontal space given to the chord? (I am still a
beginner at Scheme.)
Maybe by tweaking |horizontal-skylines| for the NoteColumn?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/internals/notecolumn
2. If a note is on a ledger line, the ledger line is not offset with its
note, but is left behind in its original position. Is there a way to
offset the ledger line as well as the note?
It seems like the ideal solution would be if there was a way to create a
second NoteColumn for the chord and move some notes over into it? Like
what (I assume) happens automatically when a chord has notes that are an
interval of a second apart?
Thanks again,
-Paul
PS. I tried this, but it doesn't seem to have any effect, although it
doesn't return any errors. I imagine I'm not accessing the NoteColumn
correctly.
\version 2.14.2
chordTweak =
#(define-music-function (parser location l-sky r-sky music) (number?
number? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property music 'tweaks)
(acons 'horizontal-skylines (cons l-sky r-sky)
(ly:music-property music 'tweaks)))
music)
{
\chordTweak #30 #60 c'' e'' g''
}
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Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
On 10/04/12 06:56, Paul Morris wrote:
Thomas Morley wrote:
Am 9. April 2012 03:25 schrieb Paul Morrisp...@paulwmorris.com:
Hello, Is there a way to manually move some of the notes in a chord to the
opposite side of the stem, overriding the default placement?
I have looked through the docs and did not find a simple way to do this (the
NoteColumn #'force-hshift property only works with notes in different
voices, and trying to \override NoteHead #'X-offset within a chord just
returned an error). The best thing I came up with was this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
Following its example I was able to get the results I needed by doing this:
shiftR = {
\once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
\once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
}
c' e' g'4
{c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' f' a'
{ d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
See attached screenshot. But it seems like there should be a way to do this
without having to introduce another voice?
Use a tweak.
Perhaps:
\version 2.14.2
horOff =
#(define-music-function (parser location x-off music) (number? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property music 'tweaks)
(acons 'extra-offset (cons x-off 0)
(ly:music-property music 'tweaks)))
music)
%shiftR = {
% \once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
% \once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
%}
{
c' e' \horOff #1.2 g'4
% {c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' \horOff #1.2 f' \horOff #1.2 a'
% { d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
}
HTH,
Harm
Thank you! This works, but unfortunately (like the Hydra's heads) it
introduces two other problems, one with horizontal spacing collisions
and one with ledger lines.
1. Because the spacing engine does not take into account this
low-level tweak, the tweaked notes sometimes collide with bar/measure
lines and sometimes with other adjacent notes. Is there a way to use
Scheme to also increase the horizontal space given to the chord? (I
am still a beginner at Scheme.)
Can't help with the second problem, but for the first you could add
additional horizontal space to either the barline or stem to increase
their separation:
\version 2.15.36
barspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #extent
#})
stemspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.Stem #'X-extent = #extent
#})
\relative c'' {
c2 c c c \barspace #'(0 . 2)
c c
\stemspace #'(-2 . 0) c c
}
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Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Hi Paul,
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.netwrote:
On 10/04/12 06:56, Paul Morris wrote:
Thomas Morley wrote:
Am 9. April 2012 03:25 schrieb Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com
p...@paulwmorris.com:
Hello, Is there a way to manually move some of the notes in a chord to the
opposite side of the stem, overriding the default placement?
I have looked through the docs and did not find a simple way to do this (the
NoteColumn #'force-hshift property only works with notes in different
voices, and trying to \override NoteHead #'X-offset within a chord just
returned an error). The best thing I came up with was this
snippet:http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
Following its example I was able to get the results I needed by doing this:
shiftR = {
\once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
\once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
}
c' e' g' 4
{ c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' f' a'
{ d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
See attached screenshot. But it seems like there should be a way to do this
without having to introduce another voice?
Use a tweak.
Perhaps:
\version 2.14.2
horOff =
#(define-music-function (parser location x-off music) (number? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property music 'tweaks)
(acons 'extra-offset (cons x-off 0)
(ly:music-property music 'tweaks)))
music)
%shiftR = {
% \once \override Stem #'X-offset = #.6
% \once \override NoteHead #'X-offset = #.6
%}
{
c' e' \horOff #1.2 g' 4
% { c' e' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR g' }
d' \horOff #1.2 f' \horOff #1.2 a'
% { d' } \\ { \voiceThree \shiftR f' a' }
}
HTH,
Harm
Thank you! This works, but unfortunately (like the Hydra's heads) it
introduces two other problems, one with horizontal spacing collisions and
one with ledger lines.
1. Because the spacing engine does not take into account this low-level
tweak, the tweaked notes sometimes collide with bar/measure lines and
sometimes with other adjacent notes. Is there a way to use Scheme toalso
increase the horizontal space given to the chord? (I am still a
beginner at Scheme.)
Can't help with the second problem, but for the first you could add
additional horizontal space to either the barline or stem to increase their
separation:
\version 2.15.36
barspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #extent
#})
stemspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.Stem #'X-extent = #extent
#})
\relative c'' {
c2 c c c \barspace #'(0 . 2)
c c
\stemspace #'(-2 . 0) c c
}
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This seems to do the trick as far as horizontal spacing is concerned:
\version 2.15.36
#(define ((shift offsets) grob)
(let ((note-heads (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-heads
(map
(lambda (p q) (set! (ly:grob-property p 'X-offset) q))
note-heads offsets)))
displaceHeads =
#(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking = #(shift offsets)
#}
)
{
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 0)
c' e' g'4
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 1.2)
d' f' a'
}
Hope this helps!
-David
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Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Thanks David and Nick! More below...
David Nalesnik wrote:
Hi Paul,
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
On 10/04/12 06:56, Paul Morris wrote:
Thank you! This works, but unfortunately (like the Hydra's
heads) it introduces two other problems, one with horizontal
spacing collisions and one with ledger lines.
1. Because the spacing engine does not take into account this
low-level tweak, the tweaked notes sometimes collide with
bar/measure lines and sometimes with other adjacent notes. Is
there a way to use Scheme to also increase the horizontal space
given to the chord? (I am still a beginner at Scheme.)
Can't help with the second problem, but for the first you could
add additional horizontal space to either the barline or stem to
increase their separation:
\version 2.15.36
barspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #extent
#})
stemspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent)
(pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.Stem #'X-extent = #extent
#})
\relative c'' {
c2 c c c \barspace #'(0 . 2)
c c
\stemspace #'(-2 . 0) c c
}
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This seems to do the trick as far as horizontal spacing is concerned:
\version 2.15.36
#(define ((shift offsets) grob)
(let ((note-heads (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-heads
(map
(lambda (p q) (set! (ly:grob-property p 'X-offset) q))
note-heads offsets)))
displaceHeads =
#(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking = #(shift offsets)
#}
)
{
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 0)
c' e' g'4
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 1.2)
d' f' a'
}
Hope this helps!
-David
Actually, David's approach appears to fix both problems! Ledger lines
are extended and appear twice as wide, just like with other chords that
have notes on both sides of the stem. The horizontal spacing seems to
be working with standard noteheads. (Looks like a good candidate for
the LSR.)
Unfortunately a function I'm using to substitute custom stencils for
NoteHead grobs seems to disrupt the horizontal spacing in some instances
(particularly noticeable with bar lines). I haven't figured out the
pattern yet. But worst case, that's something I can fix manually using
the tweaks Nick suggested. Or maybe there is a way to expand David's
function to access the Stem from the NoteColumn and automatically give
it an X-offset too?
A stripped down version of my code is below, if anyone is curious. It
is still a bit long.
Again, thanks so much! I really appreciate it, as it would take me
forever to try and figure this stuff out on my own.
-Paul
\version 2.15.32
%Begin TwinNote scripts
%Customizing note head stencils based on pitch
%Defining stencils
upTriangle =
#(ly:make-stencil
(list 'embedded-ps
gsave
currentpoint translate
newpath
-.1875 -.5 moveto
.65625 .5 lineto
1.5 -.5 lineto
closepath
fill
grestore )
(cons -.1875 1.5)
(cons -.5 .5)
)
downTriangle =
#(ly:make-stencil
(list 'embedded-ps
gsave
currentpoint translate
newpath
.08 .34 moveto
.65625 -.4 lineto
1.2325 .34 lineto
closepath
0.12 setlinewidth
stroke
newpath
-.0775 .43 moveto
.65625 -.43 lineto
1.39 .43 lineto
closepath
0.1 setlinewidth
stroke
newpath
-.1675 .48 moveto
.65625 -.48 lineto
1.48 .48 lineto
closepath
0.04 setlinewidth
stroke
grestore )
(cons -.1875 1.5)
(cons -.5 .5)
)
%Based on the pitch's semitone, which note head
#(define (semitone-to-stencil semitone)
(if (= (remainder semitone 2) 0) downTriangle upTriangle)
)
%Get the pitch from the grob, convert to semitone
#(define (stencil-notehead grob)
(semitone-to-stencil
(ly:pitch-semitones (ly:event-property (event-cause grob) 'pitch
%End TwinNote scripts
#(define ((shift offsets) grob)
(let ((note-heads (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-heads
(map
(lambda (p q) (set! (ly:grob-property p 'X-offset) q))
note-heads offsets)))
displaceHeads =
#(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking = #(shift offsets)
#}
)
theMusic = {
\displaceHeads #'(0 0 1.45)
c' e' g' 4
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.45 1.45)
d' f' a'
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.45 1.45)
d' f' a'
\displaceHeads #'(0 0 1.45)
c' e' g'
\displaceHeads #'(-1.45 -1.45 0)
c'' e'' g''
\displaceHeads
Re: Moving notes in a chord to the opposite side of the stem?
Hi Paul,
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com wrote:
Thanks David and Nick! More below...
David Nalesnik wrote:
Hi Paul,
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.netwrote:
On 10/04/12 06:56, Paul Morris wrote:
Thank you! This works, but unfortunately (like the Hydra's heads) it
introduces two other problems, one with horizontal spacing collisions and
one with ledger lines.
1. Because the spacing engine does not take into account this low-level
tweak, the tweaked notes sometimes collide with bar/measure lines and
sometimes with other adjacent notes. Is there a way to use Scheme toalso
increase the horizontal space given to the chord? (I am still a
beginner at Scheme.)
Can't help with the second problem, but for the first you could add
additional horizontal space to either the barline or stem to increase their
separation:
\version 2.15.36
barspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #extent
#})
stemspace = #(define-music-function (parser location extent) (pair?) #{
\once \override Staff.Stem #'X-extent = #extent
#})
\relative c'' {
c2 c c c \barspace #'(0 . 2)
c c
\stemspace #'(-2 . 0) c c
}
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This seems to do the trick as far as horizontal spacing is concerned:
\version 2.15.36
#(define ((shift offsets) grob)
(let ((note-heads (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-heads
(map
(lambda (p q) (set! (ly:grob-property p 'X-offset) q))
note-heads offsets)))
displaceHeads =
#(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking = #(shift offsets)
#}
)
{
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 0)
c' e' g'4
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.2 1.2)
d' f' a'
}
Hope this helps!
-David
Actually, David's approach appears to fix both problems! Ledger lines are
extended and appear twice as wide, just like with other chords that have
notes on both sides of the stem. The horizontal spacing seems to be
working with standard noteheads. (Looks like a good candidate for the LSR.)
Unfortunately a function I'm using to substitute custom stencils for
NoteHead grobs seems to disrupt the horizontal spacing in some instances
(particularly noticeable with bar lines). I haven't figured out the
pattern yet. But worst case, that's something I can fix manually using the
tweaks Nick suggested. Or maybe there is a way to expand David's function
to access the Stem from the NoteColumn and automatically give it an
X-offset too?
A stripped down version of my code is below, if anyone is curious. It is
still a bit long.
Again, thanks so much! I really appreciate it, as it would take me
forever to try and figure this stuff out on my own.
-Paul
\version 2.15.32
%Begin TwinNote scripts
%Customizing note head stencils based on pitch
%Defining stencils
upTriangle =
#(ly:make-stencil
(list 'embedded-ps
gsave
currentpoint translate
newpath
-.1875 -.5 moveto
.65625 .5 lineto
1.5 -.5 lineto
closepath
fill
grestore )
(cons -.1875 1.5)
(cons -.5 .5)
)
downTriangle =
#(ly:make-stencil
(list 'embedded-ps
gsave
currentpoint translate
newpath
.08 .34 moveto
.65625 -.4 lineto
1.2325 .34 lineto
closepath
0.12 setlinewidth
stroke
newpath
-.0775 .43 moveto
.65625 -.43 lineto
1.39 .43 lineto
closepath
0.1 setlinewidth
stroke
newpath
-.1675 .48 moveto
.65625 -.48 lineto
1.48 .48 lineto
closepath
0.04 setlinewidth
stroke
grestore )
(cons -.1875 1.5)
(cons -.5 .5)
)
%Based on the pitch's semitone, which note head
#(define (semitone-to-stencil semitone)
(if (= (remainder semitone 2) 0) downTriangle upTriangle)
)
%Get the pitch from the grob, convert to semitone
#(define (stencil-notehead grob)
(semitone-to-stencil
(ly:pitch-semitones (ly:event-property (event-cause grob) 'pitch
%End TwinNote scripts
#(define ((shift offsets) grob)
(let ((note-heads (ly:grob-array-list (ly:grob-object grob
'note-heads
(map
(lambda (p q) (set! (ly:grob-property p 'X-offset) q))
note-heads offsets)))
displaceHeads =
#(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?)
#{
\once \override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking = #(shift offsets)
#}
)
theMusic = {
\displaceHeads #'(0 0 1.45)
c' e' g' 4
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.45 1.45)
d' f' a'
\displaceHeads #'(0 1.45 1.45)
d' f' a'
\displaceHeads #'(0 0 1.45)
c' e' g'
\displaceHeads #'(-1.45 -1.45 0)
Fwd: Re: Automatic beams
... forget CC to the list.
Am 09.04.2012 01:09, schrieb Nick Payne:
\version 2.14.2
changeBeaming = \set beamExceptions =
#'((end . (((1 . 8) . (2 2 2 2))
((1 . 16) . (2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2))
((1 . 24) . (3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3)
revertBeaming = \set beamExceptions = #'()
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff {
\time 4/4 \key g \major
\relative c'' {
\changeBeaming
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\times 4/6{c'16 a b c b a } \times 4/6{r e fis g fis e }
fis16 d fis a r fis a c | % 24
}
}
\new Staff {
\time 4/4 \key g \major \clef bass
\relative c {
\changeBeaming
fis8 d' g, d' a d b d | % 24
}
}
Nick,
many thanks for this help. It's exactly what I need. There are some
irregular measures that I have to fix with manual beams. But most beams
don't need any tweak anymore.
Thanks also to Hans and Eluze!
Happy Easter!
Helge
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Re: Avoiding tie/prall collision
Am 09.04.2012 21:12, schrieb Thomas Morley:
I'd use \override Script #'staff-padding = #'() and \voiceOne,
\voiceTwo and \oneVoice:
This looks great. I also played around with an approach that doesn't use
the two voices since it's just the left hand that plays some part of the
voice.
\version 2.14.2
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff=right \relative c'' {
\key g \major \time 3/4 s2. \stemUp
d4^~ d16 a' g\prall fis e\prall d cis\prall b | % 33
}
\context Staff=left \relative c' {
\override Script #'staff-padding = #'()
\key g \major \time 3/4 \clef bass s2. \stemDown
\change Staff=right r16 a' g\prall fis g4 \change Staff=left r | % 33
}
What is the benefit of the two voices approach and when should I avoid
the stem up/down?
Thanks,
Helge
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