Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Keith OHara
Werner LEMBERG wl at gnu.org writes:


 How can I avoid that the \tempo string sticks
 out to the right?

I forbid line-breaks for the next one or two measures.

\tempo a very long tempo string c4 c c c |\noBreak




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Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Federico Bruni

Il 29/04/2012 07:58, Werner LEMBERG ha scritto:

Attached is its output.  How can I avoid that the \tempo string sticks
out to the right?


This is the only workaround that comes to my mind, but probably it's not 
what you are looking for:


\tempo \markup {
  \center-column {
\line { a very long }
\line { tempo string }
  }
}

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Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 How can I avoid that the \tempo string sticks
 out to the right?
 
 I forbid line-breaks for the next one or two measures.
 
 \tempo a very long tempo string c4 c c c |\noBreak

Thanks, I've found this already by myself; one \noBreak is not enough,
two \noBreak will do.  However, this is not a solution, this is an
ugly hack.

Why doesn't handle `keep-inside-line' this situation?  Can this be
added?


Werner

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Re: programming error: cyclic dependency

2012-04-29 Thread Peter O'Doherty

On 04/28/2012 07:51 PM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote:

On 28 avr. 2012, at 19:48, Peter O'Doherty wrote:


Hi list,
After updating my system to Ubuntu 11.10 (although I can't see why this is 
relevant but this is the only change I've made to the system recently), code 
which previously output no error is full of these errors:

warning: programming error: cyclic dependency: calculation-in-progress 
encountered for #'positions (Beam)

I don't see anything strange in the final pdf file so is this warning to be 
ignored?

Many thanks,
Peter

Lots of work was done in beams in 2.13 and 2.15.
If you could send a minimal example (of one beam, say) and the version number, 
it'll be easy to ID if the problem has been fixed in more recent versions.
But this is a problem - it means that beam positions are being calculated to 
early in the LilyPond compilation process.


I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 and the error messages are gone. Don't 
quite understand that one.

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 This is the only workaround that comes to my mind, but probably it's
 not what you are looking for:
 
 \tempo \markup {
   \center-column {
 \line { a very long }
 \line { tempo string }
   }
 }

Indeed, this is a viable solution sometimes, e.g. in parts.  Ideally,
\tempo should accept an optional argument to provide an alternative
markup for extremely tight situations.


Werner

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Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread James
Werner,

2012/4/29 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org:

 Folks,


 consider this example:

  \version 2.15.37

  \relative c'' {
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |

    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    \tempo a very long tempo string c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |

    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |

    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
    c4 c c c |
  }

 Attached is its output.  How can I avoid that the \tempo string sticks
 out to the right?


I think this is

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1133

James

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Re: \tempo sticks out to the right

2012-04-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
 Attached is its output.  How can I avoid that the \tempo string
 sticks out to the right?
 
 I think this is
 
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1133

Mhmm, not really, I think.  As can be seen in my example, lilypond
increases the spacing in the bar, but the \tempo still sticks out to
the right.

It's certainly connected, but maybe two problems overlap.


Werner

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\harmonicByFret #2.7

2012-04-29 Thread Federico Bruni

Hi,

I was looking at this snippet:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=819

can anyone explain which fret is 2.7? :-)

This snippet is included in the documentation, inside a section for 
*fretted* instruments:


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#index-harmonic-indications-in-tablature-notation

At first I thought it was an output bug, but then I see that it was 
intended.
So I guess that, not surprisingly, I'm missing something about 
harmonics.  Maybe this explanation could be added to the documentation.


Thanks,
Federico

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Re: \harmonicByFret #2.7

2012-04-29 Thread pls
Hi Federico,

when you touch the string two thirds in between fret 2 and 3 the sounding pitch 
is two octaves and a seventh above the open string. So 2.7 is an approximation 
of 2.6…

hth
patrick


Am 29.04.2012 um 13:32 schrieb Federico Bruni:

 Hi,
 
 I was looking at this snippet:
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=819
 
 can anyone explain which fret is 2.7? :-)
 
 This snippet is included in the documentation, inside a section for *fretted* 
 instruments:
 
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#index-harmonic-indications-in-tablature-notation
 
 At first I thought it was an output bug, but then I see that it was intended.
 So I guess that, not surprisingly, I'm missing something about harmonics.  
 Maybe this explanation could be added to the documentation.
 
 Thanks,
 Federico
 
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Re: \harmonicByFret #2.7

2012-04-29 Thread Federico Bruni

Il 29/04/2012 13:59, pls ha scritto:

Hi Federico,

when you touch the string two thirds in between fret 2 and 3 the
sounding pitch is two octaves and a seventh above the open string. So
2.7 is an approximation of 2.6…

hth patrick


Hi Patrick,

thanks, found both 2.3 and 2.7 :)

I was puzzled because I've never found a piece using such harmonics.

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Re: Override of fingering font is ignored by \finger

2012-04-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/4/29 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
 See attached. Overriding the fingering font works fine for fingering
 attached to a note but is ignored when using \finger in a markup, where the
 default fingering font is still used.

 \version 2.15.37

 \relative c'' {
    \override Staff.Fingering #'font-name = #'Arial Black
 e-44 cis d\prall^\markup { \concat { \finger 4 \hspace #0.15 \tiny { / }
 \finger 2 } }
 }

Hi Nick,

in e-44 the fingering is an articulation.

\markup { \finger 2 } is TextScript. If you want an other font use
\override TextScript #'font-name = #'Arial Black

or more selectively

\markup { \override #'(font-name . Arial Black) \finger  2 }


HTH,
  Harm

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Re: \harmonicByFret #2.7

2012-04-29 Thread pls

Am 29.04.2012 um 14:15 schrieb Federico Bruni:

 Il 29/04/2012 13:59, pls ha scritto:
 Hi Federico,
 
 when you touch the string two thirds in between fret 2 and 3 the
 sounding pitch is two octaves and a seventh above the open string. So
 2.7 is an approximation of 2.6…
 
 hth patrick
 
 Hi Patrick,
 
 thanks, found both 2.3 and 2.7 :)
 
 I was puzzled because I've never found a piece using such harmonics.
I can't think of a classical piece right now. I'm sure you can find these 
harmonics in loads of rock and metal scores...


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top posting

2012-04-29 Thread Michael Wogan

I don't know what you're talking about.  I tried posting this message twice, 
once with the example code after my message, and a second time with the 
example at the top.  Both times I've gotten a top posting error.  This is a 
new thread so there's nothing to post below.  Any suggestions?

Mike


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Lilypond 2.16 fedora 17

2012-04-29 Thread Martin Tarenskeen


Hi,

Any chance Lilypond 2.16 will be accepted in Fedora 17 ?

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Re: lilypond bug 2368

2012-04-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:49 PM, m...@apollinemike.com
m...@apollinemike.com wrote:
 There's been a lot of back and forth on a few LilyPond lists about improving
 ties.  I'm of the opinion that the system in place is sound (it is a similar
 system as that of slurs and beams), but what needs improvement is an
 understanding of how much factors are worth and where they make the
 difference.  We've made some headway in slurs in 2.15 by removing
 unnecessary factors and decorolating them but we haven't been able to do the
 same yet for ties.  So, my advice to everyone would be to play around with
 this details list.

Surely i will experiment when i'll be finishing my tie report :)
However, given how often current ties fail, i'm pretty sure that the
current system is not good.  I have a strong feeling that it's an
overkill; from what i've already seen i could probably write a
deterministic algorithm that would perform better in many cases and
use half as much parameters.
I may be wrong; however, i think that the core of the problem is that
while slurs are really complicated and need advanced heuristics and
guesswork, ties are significantly more straightforward.

cheers,
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Re: Lilypond 2.16 fedora 17

2012-04-29 Thread David Kastrup
Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl writes:

 Hi,

 Any chance Lilypond 2.16 will be accepted in Fedora 17 ?

First it needs to get accepted in LilyPond.

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Re: Lilypond 2.16 fedora 17

2012-04-29 Thread James
Martin,

On 29 April 2012 17:28, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl wrote:

 Hi,

 Any chance Lilypond 2.16 will be accepted in Fedora 17 ?

You need to talk to the/a Fedora Maintainer to get them to package it.
No one as far as I know who contributes to the LP project does this
actively.

I'm not that technically savvy on this topic, but I seem to recall
that because of LP's use of Guile 1.8 and not Guile 2.0 that it caused
some headaches (they are not (very/at all) backward compatible) for
another distribution package maintainer.

James

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Re: Problem with articulate.ly

2012-04-29 Thread Peter Chubb
 Nick == Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes:

Nick The example below builds without error and gives the output I
Nick want.  However, if I include articulate.ly, then the output is
Nick garbaged even though I haven't used \unfoldRepeats \articulate,
Nick and I get the following warnings in the log:

That's because you have a two-note argument to \appogiature.  Use
\grace instead --- an appogiatura should only be one note.  Articulate
changes the default meaning of appoggiatura so the ornament steals
time from the principal note not the preceding note.  

Nick /home/nick/lilypond/examples/test.ly:8:59: warning: already have
Nick a beam \times 4/6 { a32[( g) fis( g) \appoggiatura { fis16 [ g]
Nick } a32 g] } warning: cannot end slur warning: unterminated slur

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BarNumber-value?

2012-04-29 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi,

in 2.14.2 I used a function to manipulate the BarNumber-stencil. It
calls the value of the BarNumber as a string, via (ly:grob-property
grob 'text).

This doesn't work no longer with the latest devel-versions. (Due to
the changes in Issue 2059 ?)

(ly:grob-property grob 'text) now returns, e.g. (#procedure
line-markup (layout props args) (2))

How to do with 2.15.36?

Below a simplified example.

\version 2.14.2

\relative c'' {

\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
  #(lambda (grob)
(let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
   (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
   (nmbr (string-number text)))
(if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
   (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
   (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
stil))

\repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
}


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: BarNumber-value?

2012-04-29 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Harm,

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Thomas Morley 
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 in 2.14.2 I used a function to manipulate the BarNumber-stencil. It
 calls the value of the BarNumber as a string, via (ly:grob-property
 grob 'text).

 This doesn't work no longer with the latest devel-versions. (Due to
 the changes in Issue 2059 ?)

 (ly:grob-property grob 'text) now returns, e.g. (#procedure
 line-markup (layout props args) (2))

 How to do with 2.15.36?

 Below a simplified example.

 \version 2.14.2

 \relative c'' {

\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
  #(lambda (grob)
(let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
   (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
   (nmbr (string-number text)))
(if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
   (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
   (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
stil))

\repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
 }


Lucky guess, but replacing text in your definition of nmbr with the
following gets me a red number every five bars with 2.15.37:

(markup-string text)

-David
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Re: BarNumber-value?

2012-04-29 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi David,

2012/4/30 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
 Hi Harm,

 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Thomas Morley
 thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 in 2.14.2 I used a function to manipulate the BarNumber-stencil. It
 calls the value of the BarNumber as a string, via (ly:grob-property
 grob 'text).

 This doesn't work no longer with the latest devel-versions. (Due to
 the changes in Issue 2059 ?)

 (ly:grob-property grob 'text) now returns, e.g. (#procedure
 line-markup (layout props args) (2))

 How to do with 2.15.36?

 Below a simplified example.

 \version 2.14.2

 \relative c'' {

        \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
        \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
                  #(lambda (grob)
                    (let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
                           (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
                           (nmbr (string-number text)))
                    (if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
                       (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
                       (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
                    stil))

        \repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
 }


 Lucky guess, but replacing text in your definition of nmbr with the
 following gets me a red number every five bars with 2.15.37:

 (markup-string text)

 -David


that's it.

Thanks again,
  Harm

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 113, Issue 99

2012-04-29 Thread MING TSANG



\version 2.15.37
\relative c'' {
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
\override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
(text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
((markup-string text) (string-number text)))
(if (= (remainder (markup-string text) 5) 0)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
stil))
\repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
}

I try replacing nmbr with (markup-string text) as suggest by David Nalesnik 
and I get the following error.  Appreciate help.


Starting lilypond.exe 2.15.37 [lily_test-bar-number.ly]... 
Processing `lily_test-bar-number.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40]
Preprocessing graphical objects...lily_test-bar-number.ly:9:21: In procedure 
memoization in expression (let* (# # #) (if # # ...) ...):
lily_test-bar-number.ly:9:21: In file lily_test-bar-number.ly, line 10: Bad 
variable (markup-string text) in expression (let* ((stil 
(ly:text-interface::print grob)) (text (ly:grob-property grob (quote text))) 
((markup-string text) (string-number text))) (if (= (remainder 
(markup-string text) 5) 0) (ly:grob-set-property! grob (quote color) red) 
(ly:grob-set-property! grob (quote color) black)) stil).
Exited with return code 1.
 
Blessing in+,





Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:07:33 -0500
From: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com
To: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com
Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BarNumber-value?
Message-ID:
    CANn-nXk-uNvVRm+Brc7y-Yze7mXSMUOm-R1AvOXe=zxquo8...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Harm,

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Thomas Morley 
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 in 2.14.2 I used a function to manipulate the BarNumber-stencil. It
 calls the value of the BarNumber as a string, via (ly:grob-property
 grob 'text).

 This doesn't work no longer with the latest devel-versions. (Due to
 the changes in Issue 2059 ?)

 (ly:grob-property grob 'text) now returns, e.g. (#procedure
 line-markup (layout props args) (2))

 How to do with 2.15.36?

 Below a simplified example.

 \version 2.14.2

 \relative c'' {

        \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
        \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
                  #(lambda (grob)
                    (let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
                           (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
                           (nmbr (string-number text)))
                    (if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
                       (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
                       (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
                    stil))

        \repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
 }


Lucky guess, but replacing text in your definition of nmbr with the
following gets me a red number every five bars with 2.15.37:

(markup-string text)

-David
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:41:36 +0200
From: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com
To: David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com
Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BarNumber-value?
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Hi David,

2012/4/30 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
 Hi Harm,

 On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Thomas Morley
 thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 in 2.14.2 I used a function to manipulate the BarNumber-stencil. It
 calls the value of the BarNumber as a string, via (ly:grob-property
 grob 'text).

 This doesn't work no longer with the latest devel-versions. (Due to
 the changes in Issue 2059 ?)

 (ly:grob-property grob 'text) now returns, e.g. (#procedure
 line-markup (layout props args) (2))

 How to do with 2.15.36?

 Below a simplified example.

 \version 2.14.2

 \relative c'' {

 ? ? ? ?\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
 ? ? ? ?\override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?#(lambda (grob)
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (nmbr (string-number text)))
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?stil))

 ? ? ? ?\repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
 }


 Lucky guess, but replacing text in your definition of nmbr with the
 following gets me a red number every five bars with 2.15.37:

 (markup-string text)

 -David


that's it.

Thanks again,
  Harm



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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 113, Issue 99

2012-04-29 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi,

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:37 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:



 \version 2.15.37
 \relative c'' {
  \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
  \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
  #(lambda (grob)
  (let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
  (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
  ((markup-string text) (string-number text)))
  (if (= (remainder (markup-string text) 5) 0)
  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
  stil))
  \repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
 }

 I try replacing nmbr with (markup-string text) as suggest by David
 Nalesnik and I get the following error.  Appreciate help.


This is how to do it:

 \relative c'' {

   \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#f #t #t)
   \override Score.BarNumber #'stencil =
 #(lambda (grob)
   (let* ((stil (ly:text-interface::print grob))
  (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
  (nmbr (string-number (markup-string text
   (if (= (remainder nmbr 5) 0)
  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color red)
  (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'color black))
   stil))

   \repeat unfold 41 { c1 }
}

Best,
David
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Pondings

2012-04-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
Hey LilyPond users,

On the LilyPond website's upper righthand corner, we'll be starting in a few 
days a Pondings column.  This column will house a rotating cast of 
tweet-sized messages about LilyPond-related projects.  Anyone can submit a 
Ponding, and I encourage you to do so!

Three ground rules:

1)  Keep it pertinent.  A ponding needs to be something that makes LilyPond 
look good - a concert featuring LilyPond typeset works, pedagogy about 
LilyPond, published articles/theses, conference about LilyPond, blog about 
LilyPond, a website that uses LilyPond somehow, etc..
2)  Keep it profanity-free.
3)  Keep it informational.  No calls to action (i.e. come see concert X, donate 
to tour Y) aside from click here to read more or check it out.  This does 
not mean that a linked site cannot have donation buttons, ticket sales, or be 
housed on a ticket/donation site (i.e. Ticketmaster, Kickstarter). But the 
content of the tweet and linked material should provide information and 
generally create a positive vibe around LilyPond.

I'm in charge of maintaining this corner, so send me your Pondings (anything in 
valid HTML is fine - make sure its tweet-sized) and I'll put them up on the 
site!

Cheers,
MS
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