Re: jianpu (numeric notes) lilypond transcribe?
I should point out that Ming Tsang's example PNG (posted on 17 Nov) was created using my jianpu in Lilypond program available at http://people.ds.cam.ac.uk/ssb22/mwrhome/jianpu-ly.html but what he wants to ask is is it possible to do that without having to type the numbers in manually, i.e. can the jianpu be automatically generated from normal Lilypond input without having to input the numbers separately. My program does not attempt to parse normal Lilypond input because the syntax is a moving target between Lilypond versions and it's rather complicated to handle everything. Moreover, although it's nice to be able to print the jianpu line along with a 5-line stave, in many cases you actually DON'T want this: if you know the user of the part ONLY reads jianpu, then the 5-line stave is just wasting paper and ink; you might as well put jianpu only, especially if you are printing out 135 songs! And if you are printing jianpu only, then I find it's quicker to type in the jianpu numbers myself, instead of going to all the trouble of coding a 5-line staff that won't actually be printed. Also, in some music you have to make a human judgment about what to do with the jianpu, for example if the key changes (you may or may not get away with changing key in the jianpu; it depends on the singer/instrument; you might have to write everything relative to the same key, in which case you have to choose which of the music's different keys is the main one) or if there are chromaticisms (sometimes it makes sense to rewrite the enharmonics in the jianpu line, e.g. #5 to b6; there are no fixed rules about this, it's down to judgment and it can depend on the singer/instrument). If any program did produce the jianpu numbers completely automatically then I would want to be able to edit/override them at times. Of course, if the music is simple (it's in one key with no awkward chromaticisms) then automatic jianpu should be easier. If I were inputting a large number of simple tunes, and I wanted both the music line and the jianpu line but without having to type everything twice, I would write myself a simple search/replace script so I can automatically generate one format from the other (or even use a third format to generate both). In this case the translator needs to cope only with the specific things that I will actually use for this specific input (it does not have to address the entire Lilypond feature set). For example, if you are in D major and you specify duration on every note in Lilypond, just replace d4 - 1, d8 - q1, e4 - 2 etc. In the general case though, it's going to be hard to automatically convert normal Lilypond input into jianpu-ly's input (or reproduce jianpu-ly's work in mainstream Lilypond) although it would be nice. Meanwhile, at least jianpu-ly does have a few sanity checks in it in case you make a mistake. It performs barline checks like Lilypond (and in jianpu-ly they are ERRORS, not warnings, so you should certainly know if you did something wrong there), and it should be possible to hear the music played back (although I should probably implement a play it in the right key feature so you can play it alongside the other stave and check all notes sound the same). Silas -- Silas S Brown http://people.ds.cam.ac.uk/ssb22 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: measures per system
Hi Kieren, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I could change the engraver so that you could specify the list in your example like so: '(4 5 4 6 (200) 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 (100)) with the meaning that elements in further parentheses have 'line-break-permission set to 'allow (the default, which lets LilyPond make her aesthetic decisions), and the other elements have 'line-break-permission set to #f and 'force at the breakpoints. Therefore, you would be assured of getting exactly 4, 5, 4, 6 bars, with the understanding that you could leave the parentheses off of 200 and create something nasty. But I suppose the point of a bars-per-line-engraver is the freedom to do just that. I've been experimenting with implementing the above, but so far I'm unable to set 'line-break-permission to #f within the engraver without getting errors (though there's no problem setting it in a \context block). In the interests of making the user interface friendlier, I added a feature for specifying repeats. You can now write something like this: \consists #(bars-per-line-engraver '(5 7*5 1 3*3)) instead of \consists #(bars-per-line-engraver '(5 7 7 7 7 7 1 3 3 3)) I don't know if there could be potential issues using the asterisk, since it's reserved for rhythmic input.. If there is, I could use another character, or do something like: '(7 (7 . 5) 1 (3 . 3)) though I rather like the asterisks. Anyway, I hope this helps! -David bars-per-line-engraver-rev.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Slurs, phrasing slurs and fingering
Hi all,
Is there a simple way to avoid fingerings from being overwritten with a
phrasing slur, like in the following measure?
% BEGIN
\version 2.16.1
theMusic = \new Staff {
\relative d' {
\key f \major
\time 3/4
\clef bass
\acciaccatura { e-\! } d4 cis8-\ \( ( a'16-.-3 ) a-.-\! \)
}
}
\score {
\theMusic
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##t
\override Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
}
}
}
% END
The following directive works for regular slurs:
\override Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside
However, phrasing slurs seem to be immune to this ovverride...
Best regards,
Olivier
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Marks above and below simultaneously
I have my rehearsal marks and metronome marks in a separate voice in the score I'm typesetting, and I'd like to get them all to show up both above and below the score. The best thing to do that I can think of is to use Dynamics contexts above and below, but that throws off the vertical spacing between the marks and the top and bottom staves; I'd like it to look as though Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #1 and Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #-1 were set simultaneously; same for MetronomeMark. Anyone know how to do this? Should I be using some other context than Dynamics? DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
LilyPond 2.16 installation
Greetings - I'm currently running LilyPond 2.14.2 under linux Ubuntu 12,04. I'd like to run 2.16, but I can't figure out how to install it. Any Ubuntu users out there who could give me a clue? I appreciate your time and attention, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.16 installation
Ralph Palmer wrote Greetings - I'm currently running LilyPond 2.14.2 under linux Ubuntu 12,04. I'd like to run 2.16, but I can't figure out how to install it. Any Ubuntu users out there who could give me a clue? I appreciate your time and attention, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.violin@ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi Ralph, When I use LilyPond on my Ubuntu machine, I use the Synaptic Package Manager to simply download and install/update the program. I also use SPM for installing Frescobaldi as well, because imo it's the best app to use when working with LilyPond. Let me know if that helps you! Ben - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyPond-2-16-installation-tp137060p137061.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.16 installation
Ralph Palmer wrote Greetings - I'm currently running LilyPond 2.14.2 under linux Ubuntu 12,04. I'd like to run 2.16, but I can't figure out how to install it. Any Ubuntu users out there who could give me a clue? I appreciate your time and attention, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.violin@ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Also, one more thing - if v2.16 is not in the repository and you can't download it via the package manager, just download the Linux file from LilyPond.org and type this into the shell: cd PATH-TO-DOWNLOAD-DIRECTORY sh lilypond-2.16.1-OS-TYPE.sh http://www.lilypond.org/unix.html Works for me. Ben - composer | sound designer -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyPond-2-16-installation-tp137060p137062.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Marks above and below simultaneously
Maybe those snippets could help : - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=735 - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=736 2012/12/2 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com I have my rehearsal marks and metronome marks in a separate voice in the score I'm typesetting, and I'd like to get them all to show up both above and below the score. The best thing to do that I can think of is to use Dynamics contexts above and below, but that throws off the vertical spacing between the marks and the top and bottom staves; I'd like it to look as though Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #1 and Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #-1 were set simultaneously; same for MetronomeMark. Anyone know how to do this? Should I be using some other context than Dynamics? DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond 2.16 installation
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently running LilyPond 2.14.2 under linux Ubuntu 12,04. I'd like to run 2.16, but I can't figure out how to install it. Any Ubuntu users out there who could give me a clue? Just download it from the Lilypond site and run the installer script. It will install in your home directory. I did it just this afternoon on a 12.04 box. -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Slurs, phrasing slurs and fingering
On 02/12/12 10:46, Olivier Biot wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a simple way to avoid fingerings from being overwritten with
a phrasing slur, like in the following measure?
% BEGIN
\version 2.16.1
theMusic = \new Staff {
\relative d' {
\key f \major
\time 3/4
\clef bass
\acciaccatura { e-\! } d4 cis8-\ \( ( a'16-.-3 ) a-.-\! \)
}
}
\score {
\theMusic
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##t
\override Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
}
}
}
% END
The following directive works for regular slurs:
\override Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside
However, phrasing slurs seem to be immune to this ovverride...
As (in this case) the slur and phrasing slur overlap even without the
fingering, you might as well shape the phrasing slur to avoid both the
slur and fingering.
\version 2.16.1
theMusic = \new Staff {
\relative d' {
\key f \major
\time 3/4
\clef bass
\acciaccatura { e-\! } d4 \shape #'((0 . 1) (0 . 1.8) (0 . 1.8) (0
. 0)) PhrasingSlur
cis8-\ \( ( a'16-.-3 ) a-.-\! \)
}
}
\score {
\theMusic
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##t
\override Fingering #'avoid-slur = #'outside
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
}
}
}
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RE: Marks above and below simultaneously
The problem with those is that they would require me to remove the engravers from the Score context and include them in the upper- and lowermost Staff contexts, which poses an issue since I'm using \HideEmptyStaves--if I do both of those things and either of those two contexts is empty when the mark occurs, it won't show up. DR From: Pierre Perol-Schneider [mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:32 PM To: Daniel Rosen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Marks above and below simultaneously Maybe those snippets could help : - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=735 - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=736 2012/12/2 Daniel Rosen drose...@gmail.com I have my rehearsal marks and metronome marks in a separate voice in the score I'm typesetting, and I'd like to get them all to show up both above and below the score. The best thing to do that I can think of is to use Dynamics contexts above and below, but that throws off the vertical spacing between the marks and the top and bottom staves; I'd like it to look as though Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #1 and Score.RehearsalMark #'direction = #-1 were set simultaneously; same for MetronomeMark. Anyone know how to do this? Should I be using some other context than Dynamics? DR ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: LilyPond 2.16 installation
Forwarding to list -- Forwarded message -- From: Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM Subject: Re: LilyPond 2.16 installation To: Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com I installed it ins own directory after downloading it and then just renamed the 2.14 to old and let the 2.16 occupy the 2.14 versions folder. Probably a kludgey way of doing it but it worked fine. Then after a recent reinstall, I discovered if using Frescobaldi you can simply point to where ever you install whatever version from the preference section. What could be easier. Ubuntu definitely does trail the upstream stuff sometimes. best of luck, Shane Brandes On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com wrote: I'm currently running LilyPond 2.14.2 under linux Ubuntu 12,04. I'd like to run 2.16, but I can't figure out how to install it. Any Ubuntu users out there who could give me a clue? Just download it from the Lilypond site and run the installer script. It will install in your home directory. I did it just this afternoon on a 12.04 box. -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
