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Re: Bar counts and repeats in repetitive music

2017-02-16 Thread Jeffery Shivers

Without investigating how the bar number engraver (I'm guessing, or
whatever engraves them), I am unsure how to correct what actually gets
*engraved* (which is obviously important), but here's a partial solution.

\adjustBarNum
 applies the repeats and
does the calculations
,
and seems to reset
each
 next *currentBarNumber* to what it should be. Maybe someone with more
knowledge of
how
 bar number
s are
engrave
d can
have a look and see what is wrong/missing
.

=== begin snippet

adjustBarNum =
  #(define-music-function (num mus)
  (number? ly:music?)
  (define startBar 0)
  #{
#(make-apply-context
(lambda (context)
  (let ((currentBar (ly:context-property context
'currentBarNumber)))
(set! startBar currentBar
\repeat volta #num { #mus }
#(make-apply-context
(lambda (context)
  (let* ((endBar (ly:context-property context
'currentBarNumber))
   (repLength (+ (if (equal? startBar 1) 0 1)
  (- endBar startBar)))
  (lenScaled (* repLength num))
  (nextBar (+ startBar lenScaled)))
 (ly:context-set-property! context 'currentBarNumber
nextBar
  #})

\score {
  \new Staff {
\tempo 4 = 108
\clef "bass"
\time 4/4
\key f \minor
\override Score.BarNumber.break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)

\barNumberCheck #1
\adjustBarNum 4 { \rhPatternA }
% adds 4 bars ... (1 + 4 = 5)
\barNumberCheck #5
\adjustBarNum 16 { \rhPatternA }
% adds 16 bars ... (5 + 16 = 21)
\barNumberCheck #21
\adjustBarNum 4 { \rhPatternB }
% adds 4 bars ... (21 + 4 = 25)
\barNumberCheck #25
\adjustBarNum 2 {\rhPatternA }
  }
}

=== end snippet

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:54 PM, ptoye  wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Jeffery.
>
> Here's some of the music I'm trying to set. I'm not worried about the full
> score aspect, just the piano part. As you can see, it doesn't indicate how
> many repetitions there should be, and the bar numbers don't increment
> correctly.
>
> This is just a one-bar repetition, so my third comment isn't relevant.
>
> I've been using currentBarNumber so your typo wasn't a problem.
>
> \version "2.19.52"
>
> \language "english"
>
> rhPatternA =
> {
>   \relative
>   {
> f,16 f r af af r ef ef r c ef c ef bf' af ef |
>   }
> }
>
> rhPatternB =
> {
>   \relative {
> bf,16-> bf af bf-> r4 r2 |
>   }
> }
> lhPatternA =
> { \relative
>   {
> f,,16 f r af af r ef ef r c ef c ef bf' af ef |
>   }
>
> }
> lhPatternB =
> {
>   \relative {
> bf,,16-> bf af bf-> r4 r2 |
>   }
>
> }
> \score {
>
>   \new Staff {
> \tempo 4 = 108
> \clef "bass"
> \time 4/4
> \key f \minor
> \repeat volta 4 {\rhPatternA } |
> \repeat volta 16 { \rhPatternA }
> \repeat volta 4 {\rhPatternB }
> \repeat volta 2 {\rhPatternA }
>   }
> }
>
>
>
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Re: 5 quaters per 4/4 measure

2017-02-16 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic

Hello,

Thanks for the solutions!

I think I’ll use the cadenza : its use for the intonation before the main music 
body is quite convincing.

JM

> Le 16 févr. 2017 à 16:31, Urs Liska  a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
> Am 16.02.2017 um 15:25 schrieb Menu Jacques:
>> The Binchois.xml example by Recordare has 5 quater notes in a 4/4
>> measure (stemless by the way).
>> 
>> Is this a « bug » in this MusicXML file, and if not, is there a way to
>> produce that with LP? 
>> I know I can use a hidden 5/4 time signature while diplaying a 4/4
>> one, but that’s not that satisfying…
>> 
> 
> I can't comment on the original XML file (or the composition) or the
> musicxml conversion.
> But if you want to display five quarters in a 4/4 meter you'd want to do
> 
> {
>  \time 4/4
>  \scaleDurations 4/5 {
>% \omit Stem
>c4 c c c c
>  }
> }
> 
> HTH
> Urs
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Re: Frenched staves

2017-02-16 Thread Urs Liska



Am 16.02.2017 um 18:27 schrieb David Kastrup:
> Urs Liska  writes:
>
>> what would be the "usual suspects" to look into when seemingly empty
>> staves just don't disappear with \RemoveEmptyStaves
>>
>> ?
> Uh, PianoStaff has the Keep_alive_together_engraver .  That's what
> distinguishes it from GrandStaff .  Since your score has nothing but the
> PianoStaff...
>

Thanks, this was it.
First I felt embarrassed, but then I acquired the impression that this
isn't readily available from the documentation, so I created
https://codereview.appspot.com/318580043

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Re: Customizing ottava text

2017-02-16 Thread Thomas Morley

2017-02-15 21:06 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska :
> Hi all,
>
> is it really true that the text of the OttavaBracket can't be
> customized? All I could find was the doc snippet
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/text#text-ottava-text
> which suggests to manually set Staff.ottavation after the \ottava command.
>
> With this I created a function (overwriting the built-in function)
>
> #(define ottava
>(let ((orig-ottava ottava)
>  (numbers '("15" "8" "" "8" "15")))
>  (define-music-function (oct)(integer?)
>#{
>  #(orig-ottava oct)
>  #(if (not (= oct 0))
>   #{
> \set Staff.ottavation = #(list-ref numbers (+ oct 2))
>   #})
>#})))
>
>
> which actually does what I want (change "8va" to "8"), but I can't
> believe that it is really necessary to go that long way for a seemingly
> simple task.
>
> Any comments?
> Urs



Hi Urs,

best I can currently think of:

\version "2.19.52"

%% Define new context-property 'ottavaText'

#(define (define-translator-property symbol type? description)
  (if (not (and (symbol? symbol)
(procedure? type?)
(string? description)))
  (ly:error "error in call of define-translator-property"))
  (if (not (equal? (object-property symbol 'translation-doc) #f))
  (ly:error (_ "symbol ~S redefined") symbol))

  (set-object-property! symbol 'translation-type? type?)
  (set-object-property! symbol 'translation-doc description)
  symbol)

#(for-each
  (lambda (x)
(apply define-translator-property x))
`((ottavaText
   ,list?
   "An alist of pairs with ottavation-number and markup.")))

%% Redefine 'make-ottava-set'
#(define (make-ottava-set music)
  "Set context properties for an ottava bracket."
  (let ((octavation (ly:music-property music 'ottava-number))
(labels
  '((2 . "15ma")
(1 . "8va")
(0 . #f)
(-1 . "8vb")
(-2 . "15mb"

(list (context-spec-music
   (make-apply-context
(lambda (context)
  (let* ((offset (* -7 octavation))
 (ctx-label-list
   (ly:context-property context 'ottavaText))
 (string
   (assoc-get octavation
  (if (null? ctx-label-list)
  labels
  ctx-label-list
(set! (ly:context-property context 'middleCOffset) offset)
(set! (ly:context-property context 'ottavation) string)
(ly:set-middle-C! context
   'Staff

%% Redefine 'ottava'
ottava =
#(define-music-function (octave) (integer?)
   (_i "Set the octavation.")
   (make-music 'OttavaMusic
   'elements-callback make-ottava-set
   'ottava-number octave))

%
%% EXAMPLE
%

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff
ottavaText =
  #`((2 . ,(markup #:rounded-box "16.0"))
 (1 . "8.0")
 (0 . #f)
 (-1 . "8.0")
 (-2 . ,#{ \markup \rotate #90 "16.0" #}))
  }
}

{
\ottava #2 c''
\ottava #1 c''
\ottava #0 c''
\ottava #-1 c''
\ottava #-2 c''
}


HTH,
  Harm

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Re: Right line of an ottava bracket

2017-02-16 Thread David Nalesnik

Urs,

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:36 AM, David Nalesnik
 wrote:
> Urs,
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
>> I'm trying to style an ottava bracket. But poking around in the IR
>> doesn't show me the way how to make the right vertical line look like
>> the horizontal line (in the attached image).
>>
>> What property do I have to override here?
>>
>
> There are no properties you can override.  Dash-fraction is
> deliberately set to 1.0 (continuous line) in
> Tuplet_bracket::make_bracket for the bracket "wings.".  (Yes, ottava
> brackets are drawn by a method of Tuplet_bracket.  BTW, I've been
> trying to straighten out some of the confusions in the bracket code.)
>
> You can comment out lines 449-50 in lily/tuplet-bracket.cc to get the
> right-lines of ottava brackets (and tuplet-brackets) to obey your
> settings.  The drawback, of course, is that you have to build LilyPond
> for this to take effect.
>
> The problem is that there is no guarantee that the right ottava line
> will cover the desired extent (i.e, black at beginning and end of the
> extent).  The wrong settings of dash-period and dash-fraction could
> easily yield a puny stub or nothing at all.  There would have to be
> some adjustment of dash spacing to guarantee a proper fill of the
> space.
>
> Well, there should be one for any dashed line (as there is in some
> markup command or other, can't remember the name) -- an option to
> modify user settings to that a dashed or dotted line begins and ends
> with ink.

Here's an illustration of what I'm talking about.

The attached PNG shows the output of the following code with the two
lines in lily/tuplet-bracket.cc commented out.  Uplet brackets thrown
in for good measure.

\version "2.19.56"

{
  %% default -- ugh. bug here?
  \override TupletBracket.style = #'dashed-line
  \tuplet 3/1 { c''2 c'' c'' }
  \once\override TupletBracket.dash-period = 1
  \once\override TupletBracket.dash-fraction = #0.1
  \tuplet 3/1 { c''2 c'' c'' }
}

{
  \once\override Staff.OttavaBracket.dash-period = 1
  \once\override Staff.OttavaBracket.dash-fraction = #0.1
  \ottava 1
  c''4 d'' e'' d''
}

{
  % default -- right line is too short
  \ottava 1
  c''4 d'' e'' d''
}

{
  \override Staff.OttavaBracket.style = #'dotted-line
  \ottava 1
  c''4 d'' e'' d''
}
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Re: Bar counts and repeats in repetitive music

2017-02-16 Thread ptoye

Thanks for your comments Jeffery.

Here's some of the music I'm trying to set. I'm not worried about the full
score aspect, just the piano part. As you can see, it doesn't indicate how
many repetitions there should be, and the bar numbers don't increment
correctly. 

This is just a one-bar repetition, so my third comment isn't relevant. 

I've been using currentBarNumber so your typo wasn't a problem.

\version "2.19.52"

\language "english"

rhPatternA =
{
  \relative
  {
f,16 f r af af r ef ef r c ef c ef bf' af ef |
  }
}

rhPatternB =
{
  \relative {
bf,16-> bf af bf-> r4 r2 |
  }
}
lhPatternA =
{ \relative
  {
f,,16 f r af af r ef ef r c ef c ef bf' af ef |
  }

}
lhPatternB =
{
  \relative {
bf,,16-> bf af bf-> r4 r2 |
  }

}
\score {
  
  \new Staff {
\tempo 4 = 108
\clef "bass"
\time 4/4
\key f \minor
\repeat volta 4 {\rhPatternA } |
\repeat volta 16 { \rhPatternA }
\repeat volta 4 {\rhPatternB }
\repeat volta 2 {\rhPatternA }
  }
}




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Re: Frenched staves

2017-02-16 Thread David Kastrup

Urs Liska  writes:

> what would be the "usual suspects" to look into when seemingly empty
> staves just don't disappear with \RemoveEmptyStaves
>
> ?
>
> As this is most surely some issue with my set-up I can't come up with a
> minimal example, but the score looks like this:
>
> \score {
>   \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Staff = "up" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.1
>   \v.2
> >>
> \dyn.1
> \new Staff = "mid" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.3
>   \v.4
> >>
> \dyn.2
> \new Staff = "lo" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.5
> >>
>   >>
> }
>
> with
>
> \layout {
>   \context {
> \Staff
> \numericTimeSignature
> \RemoveEmptyStaves
>   }
> }

Uh, PianoStaff has the Keep_alive_together_engraver .  That's what
distinguishes it from GrandStaff .  Since your score has nothing but the
PianoStaff...

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Re: Right line of an ottava bracket

2017-02-16 Thread David Nalesnik

Urs,

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
> I'm trying to style an ottava bracket. But poking around in the IR
> doesn't show me the way how to make the right vertical line look like
> the horizontal line (in the attached image).
>
> What property do I have to override here?
>

There are no properties you can override.  Dash-fraction is
deliberately set to 1.0 (continuous line) in
Tuplet_bracket::make_bracket for the bracket "wings.".  (Yes, ottava
brackets are drawn by a method of Tuplet_bracket.  BTW, I've been
trying to straighten out some of the confusions in the bracket code.)

You can comment out lines 449-50 in lily/tuplet-bracket.cc to get the
right-lines of ottava brackets (and tuplet-brackets) to obey your
settings.  The drawback, of course, is that you have to build LilyPond
for this to take effect.

The problem is that there is no guarantee that the right ottava line
will cover the desired extent (i.e, black at beginning and end of the
extent).  The wrong settings of dash-period and dash-fraction could
easily yield a puny stub or nothing at all.  There would have to be
some adjustment of dash spacing to guarantee a proper fill of the
space.

Well, there should be one for any dashed line (as there is in some
markup command or other, can't remember the name) -- an option to
modify user settings to that a dashed or dotted line begins and ends
with ink.

Best,
David

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Re: Bar counts and repeats in repetitive music

2017-02-16 Thread Jeffery Shivers

> I think using (ly:context  'measurePosition)

Sorry, this is actually incorrect. `currentBarNumber` is what you need
to look up.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Jeffery Shivers
 wrote:
> Could you provide a MWE? Without any knowledge of how your project is
> setup, we have to guess how exactly to help you.
>
> Regarding automating measure numbers, you could write a scheme
> function to calculate the next bar number following repeats, I think
> using (ly:context  'measurePosition) and then factoring in
> the number of times something is repeated.
>
> If I understand correctly, you want the piano part to look different
> (optimized) in its own document as opposed to how it will look in the
> less-optimized score. I'm attaching a (not very elegant) suggestion of
> how you might begin to automate things there as well (rewired etc. to
> suit your setup). HTH
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:07 AM, ptoye  wrote:
>> What - no-one? Am I the only one playing minimalist music round here?
>>
>>
>> ptoye wrote
>>> I'm trying to engrave a highly repetitive piano part using repeats as much
>>> as possible to save page-turns, but I need to display the bar numbers as
>>> if the repeats were written out (other parts don't repeat). It seems to me
>>> that this raises three issues, to none of which have I found a solution in
>>> the manuals.
>>>
>>> 1) Notating the number of repeats automatically . One can do a markup of
>>> "3×" on the repeat bar, so it's not a major problem, but Lilypond doesn't
>>> seem to do this automatically, which is a bit of a shame.
>>>
>>> 2) Adjusting the bar count to take the repeated bars into account. For
>>> example, if an 8-bar phrase is repeated 4 times, the bar count after the
>>> end of the section is 33, rather than 9. Again, this can be done by
>>> setting the bar number, but it would be useful to have a computer do the
>>> arithmetic.
>>>
>>> 3) Displaying the multiple bar numbers. In the above example, displaying
>>> something like "1-9-17-25". Without this, rehearsals will be a bit
>>> fraught!
>>>
>>> Any help gratefully received,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>> mailto:
>>
>>> lilypond@
>>
>>> www.ptoye.com
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Re: Bar counts and repeats in repetitive music

2017-02-16 Thread Jeffery Shivers

Could you provide a MWE? Without any knowledge of how your project is
setup, we have to guess how exactly to help you.

Regarding automating measure numbers, you could write a scheme
function to calculate the next bar number following repeats, I think
using (ly:context  'measurePosition) and then factoring in
the number of times something is repeated.

If I understand correctly, you want the piano part to look different
(optimized) in its own document as opposed to how it will look in the
less-optimized score. I'm attaching a (not very elegant) suggestion of
how you might begin to automate things there as well (rewired etc. to
suit your setup). HTH

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:07 AM, ptoye  wrote:
> What - no-one? Am I the only one playing minimalist music round here?
>
>
> ptoye wrote
>> I'm trying to engrave a highly repetitive piano part using repeats as much
>> as possible to save page-turns, but I need to display the bar numbers as
>> if the repeats were written out (other parts don't repeat). It seems to me
>> that this raises three issues, to none of which have I found a solution in
>> the manuals.
>>
>> 1) Notating the number of repeats automatically . One can do a markup of
>> "3×" on the repeat bar, so it's not a major problem, but Lilypond doesn't
>> seem to do this automatically, which is a bit of a shame.
>>
>> 2) Adjusting the bar count to take the repeated bars into account. For
>> example, if an 8-bar phrase is repeated 4 times, the bar count after the
>> end of the section is 33, rather than 9. Again, this can be done by
>> setting the bar number, but it would be useful to have a computer do the
>> arithmetic.
>>
>> 3) Displaying the multiple bar numbers. In the above example, displaying
>> something like "1-9-17-25". Without this, rehearsals will be a bit
>> fraught!
>>
>> Any help gratefully received,
>>
>> Peter
>> mailto:
>
>> lilypond@
>
>> www.ptoye.com
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Re: Frenched staves

2017-02-16 Thread Abraham Lee

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> what would be the "usual suspects" to look into when seemingly empty
> staves just don't disappear with \RemoveEmptyStaves
>
> ?
>
> As this is most surely some issue with my set-up I can't come up with a
> minimal example, but the score looks like this:
>
> \score {
>   \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Staff = "up" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.1
>   \v.2
> >>
> \dyn.1
> \new Staff = "mid" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.3
>   \v.4
> >>
> \dyn.2
> \new Staff = "lo" <<
>   \structure
>   \v.5
> >>
>   >>
> }
>
> with
>
> \layout {
>   \context {
> \Staff
> \numericTimeSignature
> \RemoveEmptyStaves
>   }
> }
>
> \structure can't be the culprit (I suspected I had some hidden content
> in there) because I can simply comment that out with the empty staff
> still not disappearing.
>

The real culprit is that PianoStaff keeps all its Staff contexts alive
unless they are ALL empty for the entire system. Look at the PianoStaff's
context definition for the relevant keepAliveInterface data and that should
lead you to the solution.

HTH,
Abraham
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Re: Frenched staves

2017-02-16 Thread Simon Albrecht


Hi Urs,


On 16.02.2017 15:43, Urs Liska wrote:

what would be the "usual suspects" to look into when seemingly empty
staves just don't disappear with \RemoveEmptyStaves

?

As this is most surely some issue with my set-up I can't come up with a
minimal example,


maybe you could experiment with Staff.keepAliveInterfaces to narrow down 
which interface makes the difference?


Best, Simon

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Re: 5 quaters per 4/4 measure

2017-02-16 Thread Urs Liska



Am 16.02.2017 um 15:25 schrieb Menu Jacques:
> The Binchois.xml example by Recordare has 5 quater notes in a 4/4
> measure (stemless by the way).
>
> Is this a « bug » in this MusicXML file, and if not, is there a way to
> produce that with LP? 
> I know I can use a hidden 5/4 time signature while diplaying a 4/4
> one, but that’s not that satisfying…
>

I can't comment on the original XML file (or the composition) or the
musicxml conversion.
But if you want to display five quarters in a 4/4 meter you'd want to do

{
  \time 4/4
  \scaleDurations 4/5 {
% \omit Stem
c4 c c c c
  }
}

HTH
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Re: 5 quaters per 4/4 measure

2017-02-16 Thread David Kastrup

Menu Jacques  writes:

> Hello folks,
>
> The Binchois.xml example by Recordare has 5 quater notes in a 4/4 measure
> (stemless by the way).
>
> Is this a « bug » in this MusicXML file, and if not, is there a way to 
> produce that with
> LP?

It's an intonation.  They are usually done unmetered.  The 4/4 probably
is some default creeping in.

I'd do something like

\new Voice {
  \clef "bass" \key f \major
  \temporary\omit Stem
  \once\omit Staff.TimeSignature
  \cadenzaOn
  c'4 d' c'( f') f'
  \cadenzaOff
  \bar "|"
  \undo\omit Stem
  \time 3/4 r r f
} \addlyrics { Ma -- gni -- fi -- cat A }

> I know I can use a hidden 5/4 time signature while diplaying a 4/4
> one, but that’s not that satisfying…

Just use \cadenza here.  This stuff is unmetered.

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Re: 5 quaters per 4/4 measure

2017-02-16 Thread tisimst

Menu,

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Menu Jacques [via Lilypond] <
ml-node+s1069038n200191...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> The Binchois.xml example by Recordare has 5 quater notes in a 4/4 measure
> (stemless by the way).
>

There are a number of ways to do this.
1. You can use a quintuplet with the bracket and number hidden: \once \omit
TupletBracket \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 5/4 { ... }
2. You can scale the duration of any note on the fly using the "*N/M"
syntax, which will cascade to subsequent notes with the duration omitted:
c4*4/5
3. You can use \scaleDurations to scale an entire passage: \scaleDurations
4/5 { ... }

So, take your pick! I think #2 would be the simplest here because you only
need to indicate the duration + scale on the first quarter note of the
first bar and it will apply to them all.

Is this a « bug » in this MusicXML file, and if not, is there a way to
> produce that with LP?
> I know I can use a hidden 5/4 time signature while diplaying a 4/4 one,
> but that’s not that satisfying…
>

In the XML code of measure 1, you'll notice that there isn't a time
signature defined at all (unless what you copied+pasted somehow didn't
include it), just a clef and key signature. How Finale knows to interpret
the five quarter notes as a single bar without scaling them is a mystery.

> Or maybe the absence of stems is the key to that? But I found nothing in
> the LP docs.
>

It's a possibility that Finale interprets the situation that way, but
unless that's how it's laid out in the official MusicXML spec, I'm not sure
I'd interpret it that way unless ALL apps that import/export MXML do the
same thing.

HTH,
Abraham

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Frenched staves

2017-02-16 Thread Urs Liska

Hi all,

what would be the "usual suspects" to look into when seemingly empty
staves just don't disappear with \RemoveEmptyStaves

?

As this is most surely some issue with my set-up I can't come up with a
minimal example, but the score looks like this:

\score {
  \new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "up" <<
  \structure
  \v.1
  \v.2
>>
\dyn.1
\new Staff = "mid" <<
  \structure
  \v.3
  \v.4
>>
\dyn.2
\new Staff = "lo" <<
  \structure
  \v.5
>>
  >>
}

with

\layout {
  \context {
\Staff
\numericTimeSignature
\RemoveEmptyStaves
  }
}

\structure can't be the culprit (I suspected I had some hidden content
in there) because I can simply comment that out with the empty staff
still not disappearing.

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Re: 5 quaters per 4/4 measure

2017-02-16 Thread Simon Albrecht


On 16.02.2017 15:25, Menu Jacques wrote:
The Binchois.xml example by Recordare has 5 quater notes in a 4/4 
measure (stemless by the way).


Is this a « bug » in this MusicXML file, and if not, is there a way to 
produce that with LP?
I know I can use a hidden 5/4 time signature while diplaying a 4/4 
one, but that’s not that satisfying…


Or maybe the absence of stems is the key to that? But I found nothing 
in the LP docs.


You can see below how Finale 2014 handles that.


From the image it’s totally obvious that the mistake is writing 4/4 in 
the first place. I guess it just sneaked in there being the default, but 
actually this ‘Magnificat’ is chant and should not have any time signature.


Best, Simon

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Re: Bar counts and repeats in repetitive music

2017-02-16 Thread ptoye

What - no-one? Am I the only one playing minimalist music round here?


ptoye wrote
> I'm trying to engrave a highly repetitive piano part using repeats as much
> as possible to save page-turns, but I need to display the bar numbers as
> if the repeats were written out (other parts don't repeat). It seems to me
> that this raises three issues, to none of which have I found a solution in
> the manuals.
> 
> 1) Notating the number of repeats automatically . One can do a markup of
> "3×" on the repeat bar, so it's not a major problem, but Lilypond doesn't
> seem to do this automatically, which is a bit of a shame.
> 
> 2) Adjusting the bar count to take the repeated bars into account. For
> example, if an 8-bar phrase is repeated 4 times, the bar count after the
> end of the section is 33, rather than 9. Again, this can be done by
> setting the bar number, but it would be useful to have a computer do the
> arithmetic.
> 
> 3) Displaying the multiple bar numbers. In the above example, displaying
> something like "1-9-17-25". Without this, rehearsals will be a bit
> fraught!
>  
> Any help gratefully received,
> 
> Peter
> mailto:

> lilypond@

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread karl

Don Gingrich:
...
> What I'd like to create is:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
...

I do this regulary. You usually use lilypond-book, but I got tired of 
all thoose lily- files, I couldn't use that in makefiles, e.g.

So, I made my own version and have ever since used that.

...
>  \header{
>  title = "some silly thing"
>composer = "Not Mozart"
> }
> {
> <<
...

You can do the headers either in lilypond or latex. I do them in latex,
when latex is involved, since I usually also include some text after 
the header.

> As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
> be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
> and potentially useful for others

My lilypond/latex code are in:
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/

Examples of my work is:

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/choir/osthammar/mozart/requiem.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/choir/osthammar/mozart/cover.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/WAMozart/requiem/

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/noter/victoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/all.pdf
 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/TomasLuisdeVictoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/

Let's dissect the motet example.

The entry file is all.tex, it is a usual latex file. To get hold of what
lilypond produces I do:

 \input{A-systems.tex}

for scores, and to include smaller music fragments I do:

 \includegraphics{sign-1.eps}

To make latex and lilypond work together, I use the Makefile, it has

%.lyi:  %.ly
echo '\include' \"$(INC)/I.ly\" >  $@
echo '\include' \"$<\"  >> $@

%.eps %-systems.tex:%.lyi
rm -f $(patsubst %.ly,%,$<)-*.eps
$(LP) --ps -dbackend=eps $<
$(BIN)lilypond-psfonts $*.psfonts $(patsubst %.lyi,%,$<).eps

The lyi thing is just to include 
 \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly"
 \include "../include/choirbook.ly"

The "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" and "$(LP) --ps -dbackend=eps $<" make 
lilypond work in "lilypond-book mode" so I get the files
 A-1.eps ... A-9.eps A-systems.tex etc.
If you run lilypond-book, thoose files would be named
lily-.yyy instead, but since you can predict their names
you can include them directly instead of going the way around 
lilypond-book. The thing missing from lilypond-book though, is that
you must manually match the line length for your lilypond files and
latex for full width music:

$ grep line-width ../include/choirbook.ly 
line-width = 153 \mm
$ grep textwidth all.tex 
\setlength{\textwidth}{155mm}

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi all,

> If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and 
> include them using \includepdf.

This is exactly what I do. Works fabulously. I highly recommend it.

HTH,
Kieren.


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Re: Lilypond hogging a processor and slowing down

2017-02-16 Thread Peter Toye

Thanks Anders and SoundFromSound for this advice. It worked fine, and the 
simple one-bar file is now down to 0.8 seconds which is far more civilised.

 
All the best,

Peter
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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 16.02.2017 um 07:39 schrieb Don Gingrich:
>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:32:09 you wrote:
>>> Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich 
>> :
 I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
 joy with the documentation.

 Over the past few years I've created several scores
 for folk songs.

 Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
 their origins.

 What I'd like to create is:

 and so on

 I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
 LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
 page and discussion in TeX and the scores
 in LilyPond.

Hi Don,
I hadn’t seen you original mail.

I’m using ConTeXt to typeset songbooklets, with all the text and lyrics in TeX 
and only the scores in LilyPond, so quite similar to your requirements.
You can find my setup here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/LilyPond

Of course you would have to get acquainted with ConTeXt (MkIV, i.e. with 
LuaTeX) instead of LaTeX.
The mentioned LyLuaTeX uses a similar approach of including LilyPond code into 
LaTeX with the help of Lua.

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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi

Greetings Don,

To add to the suggestions, you might consider using pdftk - assuming
of course that both LaTeX and LilyPond files will be converted to pdf.

Hwaen Ch'uqi


On 2/16/17, Abbé Jacques Peron  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Another alternative is lyluatex, that you may find here :
> https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex.
>
> For this to work, you'll have to use lualatex.
>
> Jacques Peron +
>
>
> Le 16 févr. 2017 14:32, "Urs Liska"  a écrit :
>
>
>
> Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich <
> gingr...@internode.on.net>:
>>I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>>joy with the documentation.
>>
>>Over the past few years I've created several scores
>>for folk songs.
>>
>>Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>>their origins.
>>
>>What I'd like to create is:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>and so on
>>
>>I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>>LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>>page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>>in LilyPond.
>
> If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and
> include them using \includepdf.
>
> HTH
> Urs
>
>
>>
>>Note that some of the scores were originally
>>entered using MuseScore and the converted
>>using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
>>but works as a standalone score. In my copious
>>free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
>>into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
>>category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
>> breaking things.
>>
>>My minimal example winds up being several hundred
>>lines, so I've not included it.
>>
>>I tried this:
>>
>>\header {
>>  title = "Eight miniatures"
>>  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
>>}
>>\score {
>>  …
>>  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
>>}
>>\markup {
>>   …text of second verse…
>>}
>>\markup {
>>   …text of third verse…
>>}
>>\score {
>>  …
>>  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
>>}
>>
>>With including the score files and it
>>did not work.
>>
>>I tried this first:
>>
>>\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
>>
>>\begin{document}
>>
>>Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
>>For example,
>>
>>Options are put in brackets.
>>
>>Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
>>\verb+\lilypondfile+.
>>
>>\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}
>>
>>(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
>>you put in the same directory as this file.)
>>
>>\end{document}
>>
>>And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
>>have been.
>>
>>I also looked at the thread titled:
>>"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
>>But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
>>\score {
>> \header{
>> title = "some silly thing"
>>   composer = "Not Mozart"
>>}
>>{
>><<
>>
>>The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
>>the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
>>scores.
>>
>>I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.
>>
>>
>>As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
>>be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
>>and potentially useful for others
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-Don
>>
>>--
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>>
>>
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Re: Creating multi-score books

2017-02-16 Thread Abbé Jacques Peron

Hello,

Another alternative is lyluatex, that you may find here :
https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex.

For this to work, you'll have to use lualatex.

Jacques Peron +


Le 16 févr. 2017 14:32, "Urs Liska"  a écrit :



Am 16. Februar 2017 07:02:10 MEZ schrieb Don Gingrich <
gingr...@internode.on.net>:
>I've got a basic problem, and I'm not having much
>joy with the documentation.
>
>Over the past few years I've created several scores
>for folk songs.
>
>Now, I'm going to be doing a workshop discussing
>their origins.
>
>What I'd like to create is:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>and so on
>
>I'm probably more familiar with LaTeX than
>LilyPond, so I'd really prefer to do the cover
>page and discussion in TeX and the scores
>in LilyPond.

If I don't misunderstand you I would compile the songs individually and
include them using \includepdf.

HTH
Urs


>
>Note that some of the scores were originally
>entered using MuseScore and the converted
>using xml2ly -- so the LilyPond code is *ugly*
>but works as a standalone score. In my copious
>free time I'd like to shift these converted scores
>into clean code, but it's in the "if it ain't broke."
>category unless the converted stuff is likely to be
> breaking things.
>
>My minimal example winds up being several hundred
>lines, so I've not included it.
>
>I tried this:
>
>\header {
>  title = "Eight miniatures"
>  composer = "Igor Stravinsky"
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Romanze" }
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of second verse…
>}
>\markup {
>   …text of third verse…
>}
>\score {
>  …
>  \header { piece = "Menuetto" }
>}
>
>With including the score files and it
>did not work.
>
>I tried this first:
>
>\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
>
>\begin{document}
>
>Documents for \verb+lilypond-book+ may freely mix music and text.
>For example,
>
>Options are put in brackets.
>
>Larger examples can be put into a separate file, and introduced with
>\verb+\lilypondfile+.
>
>\lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{MyFileName.ly}
>
>(If needed, replace @file{screech-and-boink.ly} by any @file{.ly} file
>you put in the same directory as this file.)
>
>\end{document}
>
>And all that I got was the filename printed where the score should
>have been.
>
>I also looked at the thread titled:
>"Problem with lilypond-book and \markup blocks" from 2007
>But when I tried to add a header after the \score{ -- e.g.
>\score {
> \header{
> title = "some silly thing"
>   composer = "Not Mozart"
>}
>{
><<
>
>The title and composer disappeared into the ether -- clearly
>the method here only works for snippets, not full or multi-page
>scores.
>
>I keep banging at this and getting nowhere.
>
>
>As putting a bunch of individual scores together into a book may
>be a more or less common task, a good template would be brilliant
>and potentially useful for others
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Don
>
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>
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