Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
HI Jeff;

I had not yet looked at the specific scores from IMSLP, this is a very nice
detail.

Thank you for noticing and mentioning this; it expands my music knowledge
as well as my engraving skills.

Ken

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:01 PM Jeff Olson  wrote:

> Ken,
>
> It's BWV 924, which appears as No.8 in
> https://imslp.org/wiki/Little_Preludes_and_Fugues_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)#IMSLP344372
> .
>
> And this edition also serves as a Rosetta Stone for the mordent# issue, as
> the engraver gives three successively abbreviated instructions on how to
> play it.
>
> Below is an excerpt fromthe bottom of page 8 of this pdf:
>
> [image: IMSLP344372-p8-BWV924.png]
>
> This also suggests a way to engrave it without using the mordent#
> annotation.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 6/28/2022 9:23 AM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>
> Thank you Simon.
>
> I had already looked briefly at IMSLP Bach Preludes, but there are so
> many of them, I was not sure which one to choose from as a reference
> to compare with the ones found at 8notes.com (I already have some
> downloaded from Michael Kravchuk's website as well).
>
>   I have just downloaded several of these from the link you suggested.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:57 AM Simon Bailey  
>  wrote:
>
> It seems it is BWV 939.
> See: 
> https://imslp.org/wiki/5_Kleine_Pr%C3%A4ludien,_BWV_939-943_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)
> for multiple different versions.
>
> Kind regards,
> sb
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 15:50, Kenneth Wolcott  
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew;
>
>   I'm just trying to engrave what 8notes.com claims is the first of
> the Six Little Preludes.  Perhaps 8notes.com made a mistake? There is
> no reference to a BWV catalog number.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:42 AM Andrew Bernard 
>  wrote:
>
> Are you actually referring to the 5 Kleine Praludien BWV 939-943, not
> the six?
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> --
> Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and
> quick to anger.
>
>


Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Very instructive, thank you!

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:57 AM Valentin Petzel  wrote:
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> look here for a demonstration how easily you can get problems using the
> approach in the documentation simply be doing things like avoid-slur inside or
> by adding another text (although that one could be solved by fine-tuning the
> script-priority). On the other hand the method that directly annotated the
> stencil has absolutely no such issues.
>
> Cheers,
> Valentin
>
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 18:28:16 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > Hello Valentin;
> >
> >   Thank you for your code which modifies the stencil.
> >
> >   I'll save this in my snippet folder and experiment using it shortly.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:13 AM Valentin Petzel  wrote:
> > > Hello Ken, hello William,
> > >
> > > instead of doing the thing in the documentation, which is quite unstable,
> > > I’d suggest to directly modify the stencil as in the appended file.
> > >
> > > Actually I’m planning to implement this properly at some point (i.e.
> > > transposable), but I haven’t found the time yet.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Valentin
> > >
> > > Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 06:39:48 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > > > Hi William;
> > > >
> > > >   Looks like I need to read more slowly :-)  I see now that my
> > > >
> > > > question was indeed precisely covered in the documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Thank *you*. :-)
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > >
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > No problem Ken. Sorry about that, I made the following example: (note
> > > > > that this would not play in midi playback)
> > > > >
> > > > > \version "2.22.2"
> > > > >
> > > > > shMordentUp = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "scripts.mordent"
> > > > > \musicglyph "accidentals.sharp" }}
> > > > > shMordentDo = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph
> > > > > "accidentals.sharp"
> > > > > \musicglyph "scripts.mordent" }}
> > > > >
> > > > > \score {
> > > > >
> > > > >  \relative c'' {
> > > > >
> > > > >  c4^\shMordentUp
> > > > >  c4_\shMordentDo
> > > > >
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > Also note this example from
> > > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks
> > > > > -att
> > > > > ached-to-notes
> > > > >
> > > > > \relative c''' {
> > > > >
> > > > >\once \override TextScript.script-priority = #-100
> > > > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > > > >
> > > > >\once \override Script.script-priority = #-100
> > > > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > > > >
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > -William
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/28/22 00:23, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > > > > Hi William;
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thank you, now I have a meaning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:51 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >> That symbol means that the lower note is sharped. So it would be
> > > > > >> g-f#-g
> > > > > >> instead of g-fnatural-g. See
> > > > > >> https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/86043/would-an-accidental
> > > > > >> -in-> > >> a-mordant-still-be-effective-for-the-whole-measure> >>> 
> > > > > >> >
> > >>
> > > > > >> On 6/27/22 23:13, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hi;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm trying to engrave a Piano arrangement of JS Bach, Six
> > > > > >>> Little
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Preludes, Nr 1, where the left hand notes have a strange thing
> > > > > >>> I've
> > > > > >>> never seen before, a mordent on top of a sharp sign.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've never seen these symbols together in this manner.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have a screenshot attached.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>> Ken Wolcott
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> William Rehwinkel
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > > >> https://williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > William Rehwinkel
> > > > >
> > > > > will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > > https://williamrehwinkel.net
>



Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Ken,

look here for a demonstration how easily you can get problems using the 
approach in the documentation simply be doing things like avoid-slur inside or 
by adding another text (although that one could be solved by fine-tuning the 
script-priority). On the other hand the method that directly annotated the 
stencil has absolutely no such issues.

Cheers,
Valentin

Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 18:28:16 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hello Valentin;
> 
>   Thank you for your code which modifies the stencil.
> 
>   I'll save this in my snippet folder and experiment using it shortly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ken
> 
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:13 AM Valentin Petzel  wrote:
> > Hello Ken, hello William,
> > 
> > instead of doing the thing in the documentation, which is quite unstable,
> > I’d suggest to directly modify the stencil as in the appended file.
> > 
> > Actually I’m planning to implement this properly at some point (i.e.
> > transposable), but I haven’t found the time yet.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Valentin
> > 
> > Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 06:39:48 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > > Hi William;
> > > 
> > >   Looks like I need to read more slowly :-)  I see now that my
> > > 
> > > question was indeed precisely covered in the documentation.
> > > 
> > > Thank *you*. :-)
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > No problem Ken. Sorry about that, I made the following example: (note
> > > > that this would not play in midi playback)
> > > > 
> > > > \version "2.22.2"
> > > > 
> > > > shMordentUp = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "scripts.mordent"
> > > > \musicglyph "accidentals.sharp" }}
> > > > shMordentDo = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph
> > > > "accidentals.sharp"
> > > > \musicglyph "scripts.mordent" }}
> > > > 
> > > > \score {
> > > > 
> > > >  \relative c'' {
> > > >  
> > > >  c4^\shMordentUp
> > > >  c4_\shMordentDo
> > > >  
> > > >  }
> > > > 
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > Also note this example from
> > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks
> > > > -att
> > > > ached-to-notes
> > > > 
> > > > \relative c''' {
> > > > 
> > > >\once \override TextScript.script-priority = #-100
> > > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > > >
> > > >\once \override Script.script-priority = #-100
> > > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > > > 
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > 
> > > > -William
> > > > 
> > > > On 6/28/22 00:23, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > > > Hi William;
> > > > > 
> > > > >Thank you, now I have a meaning.
> > > > >
> > > > >What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ken
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:51 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > > > 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >> That symbol means that the lower note is sharped. So it would be
> > > > >> g-f#-g
> > > > >> instead of g-fnatural-g. See
> > > > >> https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/86043/would-an-accidental
> > > > >> -in-> > >> a-mordant-still-be-effective-for-the-whole-measure> >>> > 
> >> 
> > > > >> On 6/27/22 23:13, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi;
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> I'm trying to engrave a Piano arrangement of JS Bach, Six
> > > > >>> Little
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> Preludes, Nr 1, where the left hand notes have a strange thing
> > > > >>> I've
> > > > >>> never seen before, a mordent on top of a sharp sign.
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> I've never seen these symbols together in this manner.
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> I have a screenshot attached.
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Ken Wolcott
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> William Rehwinkel
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > >> https://williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > William Rehwinkel
> > > > 
> > > > will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > > https://williamrehwinkel.net

\version "2.22.2"

#(define (integer-or-false? x)
   (or (not x) (integer? x)))

alt =
#(define-music-function (alt_up alt_down mus)
   (integer-or-false? (integer-or-false? #f) ly:music?)
   #{
 \tweak stencil
 #(grob-transformer 'stencil
(lambda (grob orig)
  (if alt_up
  (let* ((mu (markup #:fontsize -4 #:center-align
 (alteration->text-accidental-markup (/ alt_up 2
 (altstc (grob-interpret-markup grob mu))
 (arttype (ly:event-property (ly:grob-property grob 'cause) 'articulation-type)))
(if (equal? arttype "trill")
(set! altstc (ly:stencil-translate altstc '(0.7 . 0
(set! orig
  (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge orig Y UP altstc
 

Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hello Valentin;

  Thank you for your code which modifies the stencil.

  I'll save this in my snippet folder and experiment using it shortly.

Thanks,
Ken

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:13 AM Valentin Petzel  wrote:
>
> Hello Ken, hello William,
>
> instead of doing the thing in the documentation, which is quite unstable, I’d
> suggest to directly modify the stencil as in the appended file.
>
> Actually I’m planning to implement this properly at some point (i.e.
> transposable), but I haven’t found the time yet.
>
> Cheers,
> Valentin
>
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 06:39:48 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > Hi William;
> >
> >   Looks like I need to read more slowly :-)  I see now that my
> > question was indeed precisely covered in the documentation.
> >
> > Thank *you*. :-)
> > Ken
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM William Rehwinkel
> >
> >  wrote:
> > > No problem Ken. Sorry about that, I made the following example: (note
> > > that this would not play in midi playback)
> > >
> > > \version "2.22.2"
> > >
> > > shMordentUp = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "scripts.mordent"
> > > \musicglyph "accidentals.sharp" }}
> > > shMordentDo = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "accidentals.sharp"
> > > \musicglyph "scripts.mordent" }}
> > >
> > > \score {
> > >
> > >  \relative c'' {
> > >
> > >  c4^\shMordentUp
> > >  c4_\shMordentDo
> > >
> > >  }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > Also note this example from
> > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-att
> > > ached-to-notes
> > >
> > > \relative c''' {
> > >
> > >\once \override TextScript.script-priority = #-100
> > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > >
> > >\once \override Script.script-priority = #-100
> > >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > -William
> > >
> > > On 6/28/22 00:23, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > > Hi William;
> > > >
> > > >Thank you, now I have a meaning.
> > > >
> > > >What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:51 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > >
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >> That symbol means that the lower note is sharped. So it would be g-f#-g
> > > >> instead of g-fnatural-g. See
> > > >> https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/86043/would-an-accidental-in->
> > > >>  > >> a-mordant-still-be-effective-for-the-whole-measure> >>
> > > >> On 6/27/22 23:13, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > >>> Hi;
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm trying to engrave a Piano arrangement of JS Bach, Six Little
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Preludes, Nr 1, where the left hand notes have a strange thing I've
> > > >>> never seen before, a mordent on top of a sharp sign.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've never seen these symbols together in this manner.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have a screenshot attached.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Ken Wolcott
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> William Rehwinkel
> > > >>
> > > >> will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > >> https://williamrehwinkel.net
> > >
> > > --
> > > William Rehwinkel
> > >
> > > will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > > https://williamrehwinkel.net
>



Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hello Hans;

  Thank you for yet another, slightly different, but very helpful, suggestion.

Ken

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:49 AM Hans Åberg  wrote:
>
>
> > On 28 Jun 2022, at 06:23, Kenneth Wolcott  wrote:
> >
> >  What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
>
> I have:
>
> above = { \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100 }
> below = { \once \override TextScript #'script-priority = #-100 }
>
> And then, for a trill with a natural above (also used for a prall), and a 
> mordent with sharp below:
>   \above fis8\trill^\markup{\natural}
>   \below b8\mordent^\markup{\sharp}
>
> These accidentals may change when transposing, and LilyPond does not seem to 
> have a way to adjust that automatically.
>
>



Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Ken, hello William,

instead of doing the thing in the documentation, which is quite unstable, I’d 
suggest to directly modify the stencil as in the appended file.

Actually I’m planning to implement this properly at some point (i.e. 
transposable), but I haven’t found the time yet.

Cheers,
Valentin

Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 06:39:48 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hi William;
> 
>   Looks like I need to read more slowly :-)  I see now that my
> question was indeed precisely covered in the documentation.
> 
> Thank *you*. :-)
> Ken
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM William Rehwinkel
> 
>  wrote:
> > No problem Ken. Sorry about that, I made the following example: (note
> > that this would not play in midi playback)
> > 
> > \version "2.22.2"
> > 
> > shMordentUp = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "scripts.mordent"
> > \musicglyph "accidentals.sharp" }}
> > shMordentDo = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "accidentals.sharp"
> > \musicglyph "scripts.mordent" }}
> > 
> > \score {
> > 
> >  \relative c'' {
> >  
> >  c4^\shMordentUp
> >  c4_\shMordentDo
> >  
> >  }
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > Also note this example from
> > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-att
> > ached-to-notes
> > 
> > \relative c''' {
> > 
> >\once \override TextScript.script-priority = #-100
> >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> >
> >\once \override Script.script-priority = #-100
> >a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > -William
> > 
> > On 6/28/22 00:23, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > Hi William;
> > > 
> > >Thank you, now I have a meaning.
> > >
> > >What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:51 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > 
> > >  wrote:
> > >> That symbol means that the lower note is sharped. So it would be g-f#-g
> > >> instead of g-fnatural-g. See
> > >> https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/86043/would-an-accidental-in-> 
> > >> > >> a-mordant-still-be-effective-for-the-whole-measure> >> 
> > >> On 6/27/22 23:13, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > >>> Hi;
> > >>> 
> > >>> I'm trying to engrave a Piano arrangement of JS Bach, Six Little
> > >>> 
> > >>> Preludes, Nr 1, where the left hand notes have a strange thing I've
> > >>> never seen before, a mordent on top of a sharp sign.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I've never seen these symbols together in this manner.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have a screenshot attached.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ken Wolcott
> > >> 
> > >> --
> > >> William Rehwinkel
> > >> 
> > >> will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > >> https://williamrehwinkel.net
> > 
> > --
> > William Rehwinkel
> > 
> > will...@williamrehwinkel.net
> > https://williamrehwinkel.net

\version "2.22.2"

#(define (integer-or-false? x)
   (or (not x) (integer? x)))

alt =
#(define-music-function (alt_up alt_down mus)
   (integer-or-false? (integer-or-false? #f) ly:music?)
   #{
 \tweak stencil
 #(grob-transformer 'stencil
(lambda (grob orig)
  (if alt_up
  (let* ((mu (markup #:fontsize -4 #:center-align
 (alteration->text-accidental-markup (/ alt_up 2
 (altstc (grob-interpret-markup grob mu))
 (arttype (ly:event-property (ly:grob-property grob 'cause) 'articulation-type)))
(if (equal? arttype "trill")
(set! altstc (ly:stencil-translate altstc '(0.7 . 0
(set! orig
  (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge orig Y UP altstc
  (if (equal? arttype "trill")
  -0.3 0.2)
  (if alt_down
  (let* ((mu (markup #:fontsize -4 #:center-align
 (alteration->text-accidental-markup (/ alt_down 2
 (altstc (grob-interpret-markup grob mu))
 (arttype (ly:event-property (ly:grob-property grob 'cause) 'articulation-type)))
(set! orig
  (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge orig Y DOWN altstc 0.2
  orig))
 #mus
  
   #})

\score {
 \relative c'' {
   \key c\minor
 c4-\alt ##f #0 ^\mordent
 c4-\alt #-1 ^\trill
 c4-\alt #0 #-1 ^\turn
 }
}

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Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 28 Jun 2022, at 06:23, Kenneth Wolcott  wrote:
> 
>  What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?

I have:

above = { \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100 }
below = { \once \override TextScript #'script-priority = #-100 }

And then, for a trill with a natural above (also used for a prall), and a 
mordent with sharp below:
  \above fis8\trill^\markup{\natural}
  \below b8\mordent^\markup{\sharp}

These accidentals may change when transposing, and LilyPond does not seem to 
have a way to adjust that automatically.





Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you Simon.

I had already looked briefly at IMSLP Bach Preludes, but there are so
many of them, I was not sure which one to choose from as a reference
to compare with the ones found at 8notes.com (I already have some
downloaded from Michael Kravchuk's website as well).

  I have just downloaded several of these from the link you suggested.

Thanks,
Ken

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:57 AM Simon Bailey  wrote:
>
> It seems it is BWV 939.
> See: 
> https://imslp.org/wiki/5_Kleine_Pr%C3%A4ludien,_BWV_939-943_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)
> for multiple different versions.
>
> Kind regards,
> sb
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 15:50, Kenneth Wolcott  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew;
> >
> >   I'm just trying to engrave what 8notes.com claims is the first of
> > the Six Little Preludes.  Perhaps 8notes.com made a mistake? There is
> > no reference to a BWV catalog number.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:42 AM Andrew Bernard
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Are you actually referring to the 5 Kleine Praludien BWV 939-943, not
> > > the six?
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and
> quick to anger.



Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Simon Bailey
It seems it is BWV 939.
See: 
https://imslp.org/wiki/5_Kleine_Pr%C3%A4ludien,_BWV_939-943_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)
for multiple different versions.

Kind regards,
sb

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 15:50, Kenneth Wolcott  wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew;
>
>   I'm just trying to engrave what 8notes.com claims is the first of
> the Six Little Preludes.  Perhaps 8notes.com made a mistake? There is
> no reference to a BWV catalog number.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:42 AM Andrew Bernard
>  wrote:
> >
> > Are you actually referring to the 5 Kleine Praludien BWV 939-943, not
> > the six?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
>


-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and
quick to anger.



Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Andrew;

  I'm just trying to engrave what 8notes.com claims is the first of
the Six Little Preludes.  Perhaps 8notes.com made a mistake? There is
no reference to a BWV catalog number.

Thanks,
Ken

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:42 AM Andrew Bernard
 wrote:
>
> Are you actually referring to the 5 Kleine Praludien BWV 939-943, not
> the six?
>
> Andrew
>
>



Re: Access header-modules from inside markup-command

2022-06-28 Thread Colin Campbell



On 2022-06-27 17:27, Thomas Morley wrote:


I try to code sort of a tablature for Akkordzither.

Instead of longish descriptions best look at the image at the bottom of
https://gitlab.com/Thomas_Morley/zither-ly/-/tree/development



This looks very much like klavarskribo. I wonder if Wilbert Berendsen 
has tried anything like it?



Cheers,

Colin




Re: Access header-modules from inside markup-command

2022-06-28 Thread Jean Abou Samra

Le 28/06/2022 à 01:27, Thomas Morley a écrit :

I try to code sort of a tablature for Akkordzither.

Instead of longish descriptions best look at the image at the bottom of
https://gitlab.com/Thomas_Morley/zither-ly/-/tree/development



Wow, that's quite challenging!



Obviously I need sort of a TabStaff running top to bottom as opposed
to the usual left to right.

If I use a portrait-paper-size, I can use the default header and need
to rotate the TabStaff. Not knowing how to do it different, I did so
putting the TabStaff into \markup.
This is the master-branch of above linked repo.
Alas, I can't ensure consistent line-width of the TabStaff, because
LilyPond does not accepts settings for line-width exceeding
paper-dimensions. Furthermore, LilyPond not only warns, but rejects my
attempts to set such a line-width.
LilyPond accepts the max width of the page, though because of said
rotation I need up to page-height. This is a show-stopper!



This doesn't work:

\version "2.23.11"

\paper {
  line-width = 29\cm
}

\markup \rotate #90 \score {
  \layout {
    ragged-right = ##f
  }
  { c'1 }
}


This does:

\version "2.23.11"

\markup \rotate #90 \score {
  \layout {
    line-width = 29\cm
    ragged-right = ##f
  }
  { c'1 }
}

This also does:

\version "2.23.11"

\paper {
  line-width = 29\cm
  check-consistency = ##f
}

\markup \rotate #90 \score {
  \layout {
    ragged-right = ##f
  }
  { c'1 }
}

Hope that helps,
Jean




Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?

2022-06-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Are you actually referring to the 5 Kleine Praludien BWV 939-943, not 
the six?


Andrew