Re: Mixed ChoirGroup: Solo/Choir
On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 19:13:47 (+0200), Johannes Roeßler wrote:
> Hey David,
>
> it works - but I am running into an issue with short passages.
> I would like to stretch the choir part to the right side,
> but when I bring in "ragged-right = ##f" then it breaks:
>
> I assume you have a solution for that issue?
Very simple, but not obvious from my cropped screenshot,
I right-justify the responses.
I don't stretch the versicles at all, and I set them with a breve
or semibreve (reciting note) and stemless crochets, avoiding any
indication of rhythm. (With the commonly used Ferial versicles,
only "O God make speed to save us" is entirely crochets, with no
reciting note.)
I don't like to stretch the responses music much at all, because
I find that makes it more difficult to read. So a short V pair
will have a wide margin to its left.
Right-justification is used by Shorter House in their Book of New
Responses, and by Church Music Society in their 1993 Watkins Shaw
edition of Preces and Responses. OTOH the older Atkins/Fellowes
edition of the latter had its V placed centrally.
I've attached a much-reduced illustration of one set (Smith/Stone).
On page 2, the choir sings everything after the 2nd versicle;
page 4 has the Lord's Prayer; and the final line of music is a
concatenation of the three Amens.
I've also attached my Plainlayout file, used here for the versicles.
I set the size externally because I use much larger sizes than here
with less familiar plainsong, like the Gospels of the Passion, and
the dreaded liturgical tracts.
plainlayout = \layout {
\plainlayout
#(layout-set-staff-size 9)
}
Cheers,
David.
\version "2.25.9" % 2016-05-04
%% Sets up \plainlayout, which is local, designed not to interfere
%% with the top-level layouts, which are cumulative.
%% Used for interspersing plainsong sections with normal music.
plainlayout = \layout {
indent = 0
ragged-right = ##t
\context {
\Score
timing = ##f
\override SpacingSpanner.shortest-duration-space = #3.0
}
\context {
\Staff
\omit TimeSignature
\override BreathingSign.text = #(make-musicglyph-markup "scripts.tickmark")
}
\context {
\Voice
\omit Stem
\omit Flag
\override Slur.direction = #UP
}
\context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricHyphen.minimum-distance = #1.0
}
}
Re: Highlighting lyric words
On 2024-04-24 4:05 pm, Walt North wrote:
Thanks, that's close enough to what I wanted. I was originally for
yellow background with back letters... but red (or other bright) font
will suffice.
Here is an (over-engineered and probably bug-ridden) approach:
\version "2.25.13"
#(define-markup-command
(highlight layout props arg) (markup?)
#:category other
#:properties ((blot 0.2)
(color yellow)
(padding 0.2))
(let* ((stencil (interpret-markup layout props arg))
(strut (interpret-markup layout props
#{ \markup qxb #}))
(x-extent (ly:stencil-extent stencil X))
(y-extent (interval-union
(ly:stencil-extent stencil Y)
(ly:stencil-extent strut Y)))
(x-extent-wide (interval-widen x-extent padding))
(y-extent-wide (interval-widen y-extent padding)))
(interpret-markup layout props #{
\markup \combine
\with-color #color
\with-dimensions #x-extent #y-extent
\filled-box #x-extent-wide #y-extent-wide #blot
\stencil #stencil
#})))
#(define (highlighter blot color padding)
(grob-transformer 'stencil
(lambda (grob orig)
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{
\markup
\override #`(blot . ,blot)
\override #`(color . ,color)
\override #`(padding . ,padding)
\highlight \stencil #orig
#}
\markup {
\pad-around #1
\override #'(blot . 1.5)
\override #`(color . ,(x11-color 'orange))
\override #'(padding . 0.5)
\highlight \line { \bold lorem \italic ipsum }
}
myHighlight = \override LyricText.stencil =
#(highlighter 0.6 (x11-color 'cornflowerblue) 0.1)
\paper { indent = 0 }
{ \repeat unfold 3 { b'4 4 2 } }
\addlyrics {
no high -- light
\myHighlight high --
\tweak font-family #'sans
\tweak font-series #'bold
light -- er
\undo \myHighlight none
\once \myHighlight once
done
}
-- Aaron Hill
Re: Highlighting lyric words
Thanks, that's close enough to what I wanted. I was originally for
yellow background with back letters... but red (or other bright) font
will suffice.
Walt
On 4/24/2024 7:33 AM, William Rehwinkel wrote:
I don't know what you mean by highlighting. But you can override
properties of text in lyrics like this:
-William
% --
\version "2.25.7"
\relative c' {
c4 c
} \addlyrics {
Hello \once\override LyricText.color = #red world
}
On 4/23/24 23:18, Walt North wrote:
I have found how to highlight notes in the music. Similarly is there
anyway to highlight either individual lyric words or perhaps one stanza?
Fwd: Figured bass
You forgot the lilypond list email, Dimitri.
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: Figured bass
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 01:37:09 +0300
From: Dimitri Sykias
To: Jakob Pedersen
OK. I found it: \set figuredBassAlterationDirection = #RIGHT
On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:32 AM, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
\version "2.24.3"
<<
\new Voice {
\relative c' {
\omit Score.TimeSignature
\time 4/4
\textMark "a)"
c1 \bar "||"
\textMark "b)"
bes' \bar "||"
}
}
\figures {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
<6- 4> <6_> }
>>
On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:19 AM, Jakob Pedersen wrote:
Hi again
You should probably supply a tiny working example for the smarter
people to have a look at:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/tiny-examples
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 25.04.2024 00.15, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
Hi Jacob
Thanks for the reply.
When I use for ex. (Version "2.24.1”)
\figures {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
<6- 4> <6> <6- 4-> <_-> <5-> <5+ _+> < 5- _-> <6 _+> <_+> <5- _->}
accidentals are placed at the left side of the number.
On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:10 AM, Jakob Pedersen wrote:
Hi Dimitri
Isn't that the standard as shown in the example?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/figured-bass
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 25.04.2024 00.03, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of the
number? (Ex. 6b, 5#)
Thanks!
Re: Figured bass
\version "2.24.3"
<<
\new Voice {
\relative c' {
\omit Score.TimeSignature
\time 4/4
\textMark "a)"
c1 \bar "||"
\textMark "b)"
bes' \bar "||"
}
}
\figures {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
<6- 4> <6_> }
>>

> On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:19 AM, Jakob Pedersen wrote:
>
> Hi again
>
> You should probably supply a tiny working example for the smarter people to
> have a look at: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/tiny-examples
>
> Best wishes,
> Jakob
>
> On 25.04.2024 00.15, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
>> Hi Jacob
>> Thanks for the reply.
>> When I use for ex. (Version "2.24.1”)
>> \figures {
>> \override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
>> <6- 4> <6> <6- 4-> <_-> <5-> <5+ _+> < 5- _-> <6 _+> <_+> <5- _->}
>> accidentals are placed at the left side of the number.
>>
>>> On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:10 AM, Jakob Pedersen
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dimitri
>>>
>>> Isn't that the standard as shown in the example?
>>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/figured-bass
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>> On 25.04.2024 00.03, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of
the number? (Ex. 6b, 5#)
Thanks!
>>>
>>
>
Re: Figured bass
Hi again
You should probably supply a tiny working example for the smarter people
to have a look at:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/tiny-examples
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 25.04.2024 00.15, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
Hi Jacob
Thanks for the reply.
When I use for ex. (Version "2.24.1”)
\figures {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
<6- 4> <6> <6- 4-> <_-> <5-> <5+ _+> < 5- _-> <6 _+> <_+> <5- _->}
accidentals are placed at the left side of the number.
On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:10 AM, Jakob Pedersen wrote:
Hi Dimitri
Isn't that the standard as shown in the example?
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/figured-bass
Best wishes,
Jakob
On 25.04.2024 00.03, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of the
number? (Ex. 6b, 5#)
Thanks!
Re: Figured bass
Hi Jacob
Thanks for the reply.
When I use for ex. (Version "2.24.1”)
\figures {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure.font-size = #2
<6- 4> <6> <6- 4-> <_-> <5-> <5+ _+> < 5- _-> <6 _+> <_+> <5- _->}
accidentals are placed at the left side of the number.
> On 25 Apr 2024, at 1:10 AM, Jakob Pedersen wrote:
>
> Hi Dimitri
>
> Isn't that the standard as shown in the example?
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/figured-bass
>
> Best wishes,
> Jakob
>
> On 25.04.2024 00.03, Dimitri Sykias wrote:
>> In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of the
>> number? (Ex. 6b, 5#)
>> Thanks!
>
Re: Figured bass
Hi Dimitri Isn't that the standard as shown in the example? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/figured-bass Best wishes, Jakob On 25.04.2024 00.03, Dimitri Sykias wrote: In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of the number? (Ex. 6b, 5#) Thanks!
Figured bass
In Figured bass is it possible to place accidentals at the right side of the number? (Ex. 6b, 5#) Thanks!
Re: Converting \page-ref value to number type
Here is an updated (tinier) example:
\version "2.24"
{
\label #'myLabel
c4 c c
}
\markup #(markup #:page-ref 'myLabel "0" "?")
This displays the label's page number, but I still can't figure out how to
extract that value so I can do things with it. Looking forward to your ideas.
Ѫѯ 2024-04-24 Ѩё 08:47, Benjamin Bruce ѮѴё:
> Hello all,
> I am just now learning how to use labels and \page-ref to retrieve the
> page number where a label is located.
> I would like to use the value returned by \page-ref to do simple math
> in Scheme. I am able to pass the label to a markup command, but I can't
> figure out how to get it into a number format so I can manipulate it.
> Any tips? Here is my tiny example:
>
> \version "2.24"
>
> {
> \label #'myLabel
> c4 c c
> }
>
> #(define-markup-command
> (page-number-calculations layout props label) (markup?)
> ; Throws error "Wrong type argument in position 1"
> (interpret-markup layout props (+ label 1))
> )
>
> myLabel = \markup { \page-ref #'myLabel "0" "?" }
> \markup \page-number-calculations \myLabel
Re: Mixed ChoirGroup: Solo/Choir
Hey David,
it works - but I am running into an issue with short passages.
I would like to stretch the choir part to the right side,
but when I bring in "ragged-right = ##f" then it breaks:
I assume you have a solution for that issue?
Best regards
Johannes
8<
%
\version "2.24.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\paper
{
top-margin = 1.0 \cm
bottom-margin = 1.0 \cm
left-margin = 1\cm
%line-width = 16 \cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
%ragged-right = ##f
}
global = {
\key f \major
\time 4/4
\partial 4
\dynamicUp
}
st={\once \override Slur.transparent = ##t }
rot={
\stopStaff
\startStaff
\override NoteHead.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Dots.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Staff.BarLine.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Staff.Clef.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Staff.KeySignature.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Rest.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Stem.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Stem.transparent = ##t
\override Staff.StaffSymbol.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
\override Staff.TimeSignature.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed)
}
Acantor = \relative c {
\key f \major
\clef "violin_8"
\cadenzaOn
\rot
f4 f f g
}
Avtext= \lyricmode {
\override Lyrics.LyricText.color = #(x11-color 'DarkRed) Praise ye
the Lord
}
Aintonation = \markup {
\score {
\new Staff = staff <<
\new Voice { \Acantor }
\addlyrics \with { alignAboveContext = staff } { \Avtext }
>>
\layout { }
}
\hspace #5
}
cantus = \relative c''{
\global \cadenzaOff
a4 g( d) d8 (f) 8() 1 \fermata\bar "|." \break
}
lyricscantus = \lyricmode {
The Lord's name be praised!
}
altus = \relative c' {
\global
\st d8( c) h4(c) d8(c) b4 d 1\fermata
}
tenor = \relative c' {
\global
a4 g(f) f a8(g) a1\fermata
}
bassus = \relative c {
\global
d4 g,(a) b8(a) g4 d1\fermata
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff \with { \override
StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.basic-distance = #12 }
<<
\new Staff <<
\global
\new Voice="v1" {
%\set Staff.instrumentName="Sopran"
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "oboe"
\clef "treble"
\cantus
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "v1" { \lyricscantus }
>>
\new Staff <<
\global
\new Voice="v2" {
%\set Staff.instrumentName="Alt"
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "clarinet"
\clef "treble"
\altus
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "v2" { \lyricscantus }
>>
\new Staff <<
\override Staff.InstrumentName.self-alignment-X = #RIGHT
\set Staff.instrumentName = \Aintonation
\clef "violin_8" \global
\new Voice { \tenor }
\addlyrics { \lyricscantus }
>>
\new Staff <<
\global
\new Voice="v4" {
%\set Staff.instrumentName="Bass"
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "cello"
\clef "bass"
\bassus
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "v4" {\lyricscantus}
>>
>>
\layout
{
indent = 5.5 \cm
\context {\Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves }
}
\midi {
\tempo 4=100
}
}
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Re: Transposing into related modes
Hi Giles
I've never worked with modalTranspose before, but based on the documentation
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/modal-transformations
I created the following snippet (specially bar 3 and 4):
\version "2.25.9"
diatonicScale = \relative { c' d e f g a b }
motif = \relative { c'8 d e f g a b c }
\new Staff {
\key c \major
\motif
\modalTranspose c e \diatonicScale \motif
\transpose e c {\modalTranspose c e \diatonicScale \motif}
\key c \phrygian \transpose e c {\modalTranspose c e \diatonicScale
\motif}
}
Does this (3rd and 4th bar) contain something useful to you? To my
understanding you need to "seed" the modalTranspose function with a
scale (\diatonicScale).
HTH
Stephan
On 24.04.2024 16:39, Giles Boardman wrote:
Hello,
I have been aware of Lilypond for some time but have only just taken the
plunge and started to use it.
I am in awe of the people who have created this astonishing resource,
so, first of all, a huge thank you to everyone involved.
The functionality is amazing, the documentation world class and the
learning curve not so steep as I was expecting.
Notwithstanding, I have run into something I can't work out.
I have experienced this several times over the past few days and have
become accustomed to being able to track down enough information to work
solve my own problems. On this occasion, I have failed.
Of course, it's possible that Lilypond doesn't do what I am trying to
make it do, but that seems immensely unlikely, given what it can do is
beyond my musical horizons and even imagination.
I use a very old MIDI version of Cakewalk. It has what it calls a "MIDI
effect" to carry out more sophisticated/esoteric transpositions. For
example, one can apply a substitution to create a Phrygian mode version
of a melody, or an Aeolian or harmonic minor.
I am typesetting a composition that used this effect and am hoping to
create the Lilypond representation in a similar way. I have found
\Transpose and note that when I specify key signatures I can using
\Ionian, \Aeolian etc. as well as \major \minor and can even add to the
.ly file with the schemas for sharps and flats. This led me to try and
append \Ionian etc. to \Transpose but that doesn't work.
I thought I had found the solution in \modalTranspose but I am
completely mystified by what that is doing - from the results I'm
getting I think the problem is that I don't understand what it is meant
to be doing. I also found a reference to a modal.ly file(?) which isn't
in my installation but which I thought might be a clue. I went looking
for that, but haven't been able to find it.
Anyway, there are two possible positive outcomes for me, in writing to
this ...
1.
I am saved further research and head-scratching and experimentation
by someone telling me it's not something Lilypond does
2.
Someone can either tell me how to do this or point me at the
documentation for it
In a nutshell, I imagine the solution as being equivalent to being able
to type
\transpose c a\minor { music } and getting my c major notes modified to
a minor
or
\transpose c c\phrygian { music} and getting my c major notes adjusted
to the phrygian mode.
Many thanks in advance for any help that may be forthcoming
Giles
Transposing into related modes
Hello,
I have been aware of Lilypond for some time but have only just taken the plunge
and started to use it.
I am in awe of the people who have created this astonishing resource, so, first
of all, a huge thank you to everyone involved.
The functionality is amazing, the documentation world class and the learning
curve not so steep as I was expecting.
Notwithstanding, I have run into something I can't work out.
I have experienced this several times over the past few days and have become
accustomed to being able to track down enough information to work solve my own
problems. On this occasion, I have failed.
Of course, it's possible that Lilypond doesn't do what I am trying to make it
do, but that seems immensely unlikely, given what it can do is beyond my
musical horizons and even imagination.
I use a very old MIDI version of Cakewalk. It has what it calls a "MIDI effect"
to carry out more sophisticated/esoteric transpositions. For example, one can
apply a substitution to create a Phrygian mode version of a melody, or an
Aeolian or harmonic minor.
I am typesetting a composition that used this effect and am hoping to create
the Lilypond representation in a similar way. I have found \Transpose and note
that when I specify key signatures I can using \Ionian, \Aeolian etc. as well
as \major \minor and can even add to the .ly file with the schemas for sharps
and flats. This led me to try and append \Ionian etc. to \Transpose but that
doesn't work.
I thought I had found the solution in \modalTranspose but I am completely
mystified by what that is doing - from the results I'm getting I think the
problem is that I don't understand what it is meant to be doing. I also found a
reference to a modal.ly file(?) which isn't in my installation but which I
thought might be a clue. I went looking for that, but haven't been able to find
it.
Anyway, there are two possible positive outcomes for me, in writing to this ...
1.
I am saved further research and head-scratching and experimentation by someone
telling me it's not something Lilypond does
2.
Someone can either tell me how to do this or point me at the documentation for
it
In a nutshell, I imagine the solution as being equivalent to being able to type
\transpose c a\minor { music } and getting my c major notes modified to a minor
or
\transpose c c\phrygian { music} and getting my c major notes adjusted to the
phrygian mode.
Many thanks in advance for any help that may be forthcoming
Giles
Converting \page-ref value to number type
Hello all,
I am just now learning how to use labels and \page-ref to retrieve the page
number where a label is located.
I would like to use the value returned by \page-ref to do simple math in
Scheme. I am able to pass the label to a markup command, but I can't figure out
how to get it into a number format so I can manipulate it. Any tips? Here is my
tiny example:
\version "2.24"
{
\label #'myLabel
c4 c c
}
#(define-markup-command
(page-number-calculations layout props label) (markup?)
; Throws error "Wrong type argument in position 1"
(interpret-markup layout props (+ label 1))
)
myLabel = \markup { \page-ref #'myLabel "0" "?" }
\markup \page-number-calculations \myLabel
Re: Highlighting lyric words
I don't know what you mean by highlighting. But you can override
properties of text in lyrics like this:
-William
% --
\version "2.25.7"
\relative c' {
c4 c
} \addlyrics {
Hello \once\override LyricText.color = #red world
}
On 4/23/24 23:18, Walt North wrote:
I have found how to highlight notes in the music. Similarly is there
anyway to highlight either individual lyric words or perhaps one stanza?
--
William Rehwinkel - Oberlin College and Conservatory '24
will...@williamrehwinkel.net
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