Re: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-18 Thread Phil Holmes
Compiling the glitch.ly at 17.82 on 2.13.46 on Windows produces perfect 
output, so it's either specific to an OS, a machine, or a Lilypond build.


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- Original Message - 
From: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:35 AM
Subject: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font 
sizes



Hello List,

I am having a problem here with Lilypond 2.12.3 on Gentoo Linux. I use a 
size

of 14.14 for my own things, so I haven’t noticed it yet. But now I’ve come
across someone else’s documents, which are set at 17.82. There the loop at 
the
tip of the G clef is filled out. And at size 15.87 it’s the 4/4 time 
signatury

glyph that displays incorrectly. Can you tell me how to avoid this?

I attached a screenie of the sizes in question and the ly they were made 
with.


I have tried all sizes that are stated in the comment of the attached file.
The filled loop also occurs at 11.22, 20 and 22.45. At 25.2 I noticed that 
the

clef’s centre diagonal line has an error at its lower end (the inside of the
curve is thicker). Thus I discovered this error in the others as well.

Only 12.6 and 14.14 seem to really look normal.
I tested it with Okular, Gnome’s PDF viewer and KPDF, they all showed the
error. But still I’m attaching the PDF for size 17.82 to test it.
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Re: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-18 Thread Jan Warchoł
I'm using Adobe Reader on Windows XP SP3 machine.
Your pdf glitches17.82 displays wrong indeed (however the errors in
the display are different with different zoom).
Compiling the ly gives perfect output (in attachment).

cheers,
Janek

2011/1/18 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net

 Compiling the glitch.ly at 17.82 on 2.13.46 on Windows produces perfect 
 output, so it's either specific to an OS, a machine, or a Lilypond build.

 --
 Phil Holmes


 - Original Message - From: Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:35 AM
 Subject: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font 
 sizes


 Hello List,

 I am having a problem here with Lilypond 2.12.3 on Gentoo Linux. I use a size
 of 14.14 for my own things, so I haven’t noticed it yet. But now I’ve come
 across someone else’s documents, which are set at 17.82. There the loop at the
 tip of the G clef is filled out. And at size 15.87 it’s the 4/4 time signatury
 glyph that displays incorrectly. Can you tell me how to avoid this?

 I attached a screenie of the sizes in question and the ly they were made with.

 I have tried all sizes that are stated in the comment of the attached file.
 The filled loop also occurs at 11.22, 20 and 22.45. At 25.2 I noticed that the
 clef’s centre diagonal line has an error at its lower end (the inside of the
 curve is thicker). Thus I discovered this error in the others as well.

 Only 12.6 and 14.14 seem to really look normal.
 I tested it with Okular, Gnome’s PDF viewer and KPDF, they all showed the
 error. But still I’m attaching the PDF for size 17.82 to test it.
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Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hello List,

I am having a problem here with Lilypond 2.12.3 on Gentoo Linux. I use a size 
of 14.14 for my own things, so I haven’t noticed it yet. But now I’ve come 
across someone else’s documents, which are set at 17.82. There the loop at the 
tip of the G clef is filled out. And at size 15.87 it’s the 4/4 time signatury 
glyph that displays incorrectly. Can you tell me how to avoid this?

I attached a screenie of the sizes in question and the ly they were made with.

I have tried all sizes that are stated in the comment of the attached file. 
The filled loop also occurs at 11.22, 20 and 22.45. At 25.2 I noticed that the 
clef’s centre diagonal line has an error at its lower end (the inside of the 
curve is thicker). Thus I discovered this error in the others as well.

Only 12.6 and 14.14 seem to really look normal.
I tested it with Okular, Gnome’s PDF viewer and KPDF, they all showed the 
error. But still I’m attaching the PDF for size 17.82 to test it.
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Emacs is a great operating system, which only lacks a good editor.\version 2.12.3

\include deutsch.ly
#(set-global-staff-size 14.14) %11.22, 12.6, 14.14, 15.87, 17.82, 20, 22.45, 25.2

upper=\relative c' {
	c d e f
}

\score {
	\new Staff \upper
	\layout {}
}attachment: glitches.png

glitches17.82.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-17 Thread Shane Brandes
Hi Frank,

 I can not reproduce these errors on Ubuntu 10.04 . I have a suspicion
that it is your rasterizing engine in your Gentoo that is being fussy
and that the errors might be caused by the fact that some of the fonts
used by lilypond do not validate properly. Much of the time this will
not affect things adversely, but it is a commercial standard that is
pretty rigorously adhered to. This means that certain rasterizing
engines might get a little mixed up by tracing the wrong direction or
things that self overlap or simply missing extremum (points marking
outer boundaries and changes of direction) can also cause unreliable
results.  This of course is a shot in the dark but it makes a fair
amount of sense. In any event If I had any idea how lilypond called up
which set of fonts for what size it would be simple to make an
experiment to see if it is resolvable by correcting those things.
Attaching the pdf only will show us what errors your machine has
generated as pdf viwers on other machines will display the same errors
as the pdf is in its own way an image sort of file.

Shane

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello List,

 I am having a problem here with Lilypond 2.12.3 on Gentoo Linux. I use a size
 of 14.14 for my own things, so I haven’t noticed it yet. But now I’ve come
 across someone else’s documents, which are set at 17.82. There the loop at the
 tip of the G clef is filled out. And at size 15.87 it’s the 4/4 time signatury
 glyph that displays incorrectly. Can you tell me how to avoid this?

 I attached a screenie of the sizes in question and the ly they were made with.

 I have tried all sizes that are stated in the comment of the attached file.
 The filled loop also occurs at 11.22, 20 and 22.45. At 25.2 I noticed that the
 clef’s centre diagonal line has an error at its lower end (the inside of the
 curve is thicker). Thus I discovered this error in the others as well.

 Only 12.6 and 14.14 seem to really look normal.
 I tested it with Okular, Gnome’s PDF viewer and KPDF, they all showed the
 error. But still I’m attaching the PDF for size 17.82 to test it.
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Re: Error in glyphs: glyphs with filled loops at different feta font sizes

2011-01-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 I can not reproduce these errors on Ubuntu 10.04.  I have a
 suspicion that it is your rasterizing engine in your Gentoo that is
 being fussy and that the errors might be caused by the fact that
 some of the fonts used by lilypond do not validate properly.

Another possibility is that the glyphs from the version he uses have
been created with a buggy version of FontForge.  From time to time the
intersection resolution algorithm is broken (for example right now in
FontForge's CVS repository), causing exactly such results.


Werner

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