Re: Frescobaldi at GSoC? Call for support

[Jeffery Shivers]

>
> With regard to the org admins there is no room for
> placeholders/switching, I think. Registering as org admin is a
> "permanent" task, so one has to take over *some* responsibility from
> "now" to November. *If* the organization is actually accepted by Google,
> which in the case of Frescobaldi is more than questionable, given our
> small size.


Got it.

The most important point is to do the commitment to - if we're selected
> - stick with it over the year, most of the time having nothing to do but
> ensuring at least one admin is constantly available.


​That sounds just fine. I'm willing/able to take on that responsibility.
Let me know (off list now, I guess) what I need to do or know for now.

Jeffery

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> Hi Jeffery,
>
> Am 03.02.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Jeffery Shivers:
> > I don't feel (and objectively am not) qualified to mentor someone in any
> > capacity really, but if there is anything I can do to help (such as
> > administrative stuff, or otherwise), do let me know. Other than normal
> > job stuff, I don't have any big commitments from now through most of the
> > summer, so it would be a pleasure to assist in any way possible if even
> > just as a temporary placeholder for someone else more qualified to
> > takeover later.
>
> With regard to the org admins there is no room for
> placeholders/switching, I think. Registering as org admin is a
> "permanent" task, so one has to take over *some* responsibility from
> "now" to November. *If* the organization is actually accepted by Google,
> which in the case of Frescobaldi is more than questionable, given our
> small size.
>
> The primary duties of the two org admins (I'm the other one) is to be
> available for both (potential) mentors and Google. I think the org
> admins for large projects such as GNU, who have to shepard countless
> potential mentors, many organizations and eventually >40 active
> projects, have quite some work to do, but with Frescobaldi, where we
> won't have more than two projects in a first year, this should be really
> manageable.
>
> The most important point is to do the commitment to - if we're selected
> - stick with it over the year, most of the time having nothing to do but
> ensuring at least one admin is constantly available.
>
>
> >
> > I hope others out there will speak up as well, even if you're on the
> > fence for whatever reason. GSoC is a rare and generous opportunity to
> > fund awesome developments for a tool we all love so much; it would be
> > great to see more support for LilyPond's participation this year.
>
> Indeed it would be very good for us!
>
> Best
> Urs
>
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Urs Liska  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have to bump this as the deadline is somewhat approaching and I
> need
> > some feedback.
> >
> > We have by now a nice set of project proposals online, but there are
> > some projects without a mentor yet. Basically what is needed is at
> least
> > one more mentor who feels comfortable mentoring someone to work on
> the
> > underlying document representation stuff (the "music tree").
> >
> > But while this is *important* it is absolutely *required* that we
> will
> > have a second organization admin. Without that we can't even apply.
> > Really, this is an opportunity to support Frescobaldi development for
> > those who don't feel able to contribute any code, so please step up
> and
> > volunteer. I don't expect this to be overwhelming with workload,
> please
> > see below in my original post for some more details.
> >
> > Best
> > Urs
> >
> >
> > Am 31.01.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Urs Liska:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > we decided to apply for this year's Google Summer of Code program
> with
> > > Frescobaldi. We don't expect the chances to be accepted very high,
> but
> > > it's probably worth the effort. It would give the chance to get
> more
> > > GSoC slots for the wider LilyPond cause, so it's definitely a good
> > thing.
> > >
> > > In order to complete our application we need a few items *until
> Feb. 9
> > > (next Thursday)*, and I would be very happy to see concrete
> > support from
> > > this community:
> > >
> > > 1)
> > > It is an absolute requisite that we have a second "org admin".
> > > Org admins are responsible for communication between the project
> and
> > > Google. I think both Google and the project will hold them
> > "accountable"
> > > for that. In addition they promise to be available and reliably
> > > responsive over the whole project period (i.e. from now on until
> late
> > > October) (obviously that doesn't rule out any vacancies ...).
> > > Furthermore they'll have to do some paperwork and possibly channel
> > some
> > > money, for example for reimbursing 

Re: Frescobaldi at GSoC? Call for support

[Urs Liska]

Hi Jeffery,

Am 03.02.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Jeffery Shivers:
> I don't feel (and objectively am not) qualified to mentor someone in any
> capacity really, but if there is anything I can do to help (such as
> administrative stuff, or otherwise), do let me know. Other than normal
> job stuff, I don't have any big commitments from now through most of the
> summer, so it would be a pleasure to assist in any way possible if even
> just as a temporary placeholder for someone else more qualified to
> takeover later.

With regard to the org admins there is no room for
placeholders/switching, I think. Registering as org admin is a
"permanent" task, so one has to take over *some* responsibility from
"now" to November. *If* the organization is actually accepted by Google,
which in the case of Frescobaldi is more than questionable, given our
small size.

The primary duties of the two org admins (I'm the other one) is to be
available for both (potential) mentors and Google. I think the org
admins for large projects such as GNU, who have to shepard countless
potential mentors, many organizations and eventually >40 active
projects, have quite some work to do, but with Frescobaldi, where we
won't have more than two projects in a first year, this should be really
manageable.

The most important point is to do the commitment to - if we're selected
- stick with it over the year, most of the time having nothing to do but
ensuring at least one admin is constantly available.


> 
> I hope others out there will speak up as well, even if you're on the
> fence for whatever reason. GSoC is a rare and generous opportunity to
> fund awesome developments for a tool we all love so much; it would be
> great to see more support for LilyPond's participation this year.

Indeed it would be very good for us!

Best
Urs

> 
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Urs Liska  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have to bump this as the deadline is somewhat approaching and I need
> some feedback.
> 
> We have by now a nice set of project proposals online, but there are
> some projects without a mentor yet. Basically what is needed is at least
> one more mentor who feels comfortable mentoring someone to work on the
> underlying document representation stuff (the "music tree").
> 
> But while this is *important* it is absolutely *required* that we will
> have a second organization admin. Without that we can't even apply.
> Really, this is an opportunity to support Frescobaldi development for
> those who don't feel able to contribute any code, so please step up and
> volunteer. I don't expect this to be overwhelming with workload, please
> see below in my original post for some more details.
> 
> Best
> Urs
> 
> 
> Am 31.01.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Urs Liska:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we decided to apply for this year's Google Summer of Code program with
> > Frescobaldi. We don't expect the chances to be accepted very high, but
> > it's probably worth the effort. It would give the chance to get more
> > GSoC slots for the wider LilyPond cause, so it's definitely a good
> thing.
> >
> > In order to complete our application we need a few items *until Feb. 9
> > (next Thursday)*, and I would be very happy to see concrete
> support from
> > this community:
> >
> > 1)
> > It is an absolute requisite that we have a second "org admin".
> > Org admins are responsible for communication between the project and
> > Google. I think both Google and the project will hold them
> "accountable"
> > for that. In addition they promise to be available and reliably
> > responsive over the whole project period (i.e. from now on until late
> > October) (obviously that doesn't rule out any vacancies ...).
> > Furthermore they'll have to do some paperwork and possibly channel
> some
> > money, for example for reimbursing mentors going to the mentors'
> summit.
> >
> > This would be an ideal task for someone interested in actively
> > supporting Frescobaldi/LilyPond development who doesn't feel
> capable of
> > doing actual programming. This is a completely administrative task.
> >
> > I can't say how much work it will be, but given the (lack of) size of
> > the organization I can't imagine it's a lot.
> >
> > 2)
> > As part of the application we have to submit a number of potential
> > project mentors who have volunteered. Therefore it is crucial to
> gather
> > that information right now.
> >
> > On
> https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code
>  I've
> > drafted a project idea's list similar to the one on lilypond.org
> . This
> > is very much open for discussion and extension.
> >
>

Re: Frescobaldi at GSoC? Call for support

[Jeffery Shivers]

I don't feel (and objectively am not) qualified to mentor someone in any
capacity really, but if there is anything I can do to help (such as
administrative stuff, or otherwise), do let me know. Other than normal job
stuff, I don't have any big commitments from now through most of the
summer, so it would be a pleasure to assist in any way possible if even
just as a temporary placeholder for someone else more qualified to takeover
later.

I hope others out there will speak up as well, even if you're on the fence
for whatever reason. GSoC is a rare and generous opportunity to fund
awesome developments for a tool we all love so much; it would be great to
see more support for LilyPond's participation this year.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have to bump this as the deadline is somewhat approaching and I need
> some feedback.
>
> We have by now a nice set of project proposals online, but there are
> some projects without a mentor yet. Basically what is needed is at least
> one more mentor who feels comfortable mentoring someone to work on the
> underlying document representation stuff (the "music tree").
>
> But while this is *important* it is absolutely *required* that we will
> have a second organization admin. Without that we can't even apply.
> Really, this is an opportunity to support Frescobaldi development for
> those who don't feel able to contribute any code, so please step up and
> volunteer. I don't expect this to be overwhelming with workload, please
> see below in my original post for some more details.
>
> Best
> Urs
>
>
> Am 31.01.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Urs Liska:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we decided to apply for this year's Google Summer of Code program with
> > Frescobaldi. We don't expect the chances to be accepted very high, but
> > it's probably worth the effort. It would give the chance to get more
> > GSoC slots for the wider LilyPond cause, so it's definitely a good thing.
> >
> > In order to complete our application we need a few items *until Feb. 9
> > (next Thursday)*, and I would be very happy to see concrete support from
> > this community:
> >
> > 1)
> > It is an absolute requisite that we have a second "org admin".
> > Org admins are responsible for communication between the project and
> > Google. I think both Google and the project will hold them "accountable"
> > for that. In addition they promise to be available and reliably
> > responsive over the whole project period (i.e. from now on until late
> > October) (obviously that doesn't rule out any vacancies ...).
> > Furthermore they'll have to do some paperwork and possibly channel some
> > money, for example for reimbursing mentors going to the mentors' summit.
> >
> > This would be an ideal task for someone interested in actively
> > supporting Frescobaldi/LilyPond development who doesn't feel capable of
> > doing actual programming. This is a completely administrative task.
> >
> > I can't say how much work it will be, but given the (lack of) size of
> > the organization I can't imagine it's a lot.
> >
> > 2)
> > As part of the application we have to submit a number of potential
> > project mentors who have volunteered. Therefore it is crucial to gather
> > that information right now.
> >
> > On https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code I've
> > drafted a project idea's list similar to the one on lilypond.org. This
> > is very much open for discussion and extension.
> >
> > So I ask anyone who can imagine mentoring a student for a Frescobaldi
> > project to have a look at that list, consider the options with the
> > proposed projects, feel free to suggest other projects you may prefer
> > mentoring.
> >
> > From last year's experience I know that it is difficult to get together
> > a team of potential mentors, so *please* take this call seriously and
> > consider joining the effort. Also from last year's experience I can say
> > that mentoring *does* take its time but it's definitely a worthwile
> > thing to do.
> >
> > Best
> > Urs
> >
> >
>
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Re: Frescobaldi at GSoC? Call for support

[Urs Liska]

Hi all,

I have to bump this as the deadline is somewhat approaching and I need
some feedback.

We have by now a nice set of project proposals online, but there are
some projects without a mentor yet. Basically what is needed is at least
one more mentor who feels comfortable mentoring someone to work on the
underlying document representation stuff (the "music tree").

But while this is *important* it is absolutely *required* that we will
have a second organization admin. Without that we can't even apply.
Really, this is an opportunity to support Frescobaldi development for
those who don't feel able to contribute any code, so please step up and
volunteer. I don't expect this to be overwhelming with workload, please
see below in my original post for some more details.

Best
Urs


Am 31.01.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Urs Liska:
> Hi all,
>
> we decided to apply for this year's Google Summer of Code program with
> Frescobaldi. We don't expect the chances to be accepted very high, but
> it's probably worth the effort. It would give the chance to get more
> GSoC slots for the wider LilyPond cause, so it's definitely a good thing.
>
> In order to complete our application we need a few items *until Feb. 9
> (next Thursday)*, and I would be very happy to see concrete support from
> this community:
>
> 1)
> It is an absolute requisite that we have a second "org admin".
> Org admins are responsible for communication between the project and
> Google. I think both Google and the project will hold them "accountable"
> for that. In addition they promise to be available and reliably
> responsive over the whole project period (i.e. from now on until late
> October) (obviously that doesn't rule out any vacancies ...).
> Furthermore they'll have to do some paperwork and possibly channel some
> money, for example for reimbursing mentors going to the mentors' summit.
>
> This would be an ideal task for someone interested in actively
> supporting Frescobaldi/LilyPond development who doesn't feel capable of
> doing actual programming. This is a completely administrative task.
>
> I can't say how much work it will be, but given the (lack of) size of
> the organization I can't imagine it's a lot.
>
> 2)
> As part of the application we have to submit a number of potential
> project mentors who have volunteered. Therefore it is crucial to gather
> that information right now.
>
> On https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code I've
> drafted a project idea's list similar to the one on lilypond.org. This
> is very much open for discussion and extension.
>
> So I ask anyone who can imagine mentoring a student for a Frescobaldi
> project to have a look at that list, consider the options with the
> proposed projects, feel free to suggest other projects you may prefer
> mentoring.
>
> From last year's experience I know that it is difficult to get together
> a team of potential mentors, so *please* take this call seriously and
> consider joining the effort. Also from last year's experience I can say
> that mentoring *does* take its time but it's definitely a worthwile
> thing to do.
>
> Best
> Urs
>
>

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Frescobaldi at GSoC? Call for support

[Urs Liska]

Hi all,

we decided to apply for this year's Google Summer of Code program with
Frescobaldi. We don't expect the chances to be accepted very high, but
it's probably worth the effort. It would give the chance to get more
GSoC slots for the wider LilyPond cause, so it's definitely a good thing.

In order to complete our application we need a few items *until Feb. 9
(next Thursday)*, and I would be very happy to see concrete support from
this community:

1)
It is an absolute requisite that we have a second "org admin".
Org admins are responsible for communication between the project and
Google. I think both Google and the project will hold them "accountable"
for that. In addition they promise to be available and reliably
responsive over the whole project period (i.e. from now on until late
October) (obviously that doesn't rule out any vacancies ...).
Furthermore they'll have to do some paperwork and possibly channel some
money, for example for reimbursing mentors going to the mentors' summit.

This would be an ideal task for someone interested in actively
supporting Frescobaldi/LilyPond development who doesn't feel capable of
doing actual programming. This is a completely administrative task.

I can't say how much work it will be, but given the (lack of) size of
the organization I can't imagine it's a lot.

2)
As part of the application we have to submit a number of potential
project mentors who have volunteered. Therefore it is crucial to gather
that information right now.

On https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code I've
drafted a project idea's list similar to the one on lilypond.org. This
is very much open for discussion and extension.

So I ask anyone who can imagine mentoring a student for a Frescobaldi
project to have a look at that list, consider the options with the
proposed projects, feel free to suggest other projects you may prefer
mentoring.

>From last year's experience I know that it is difficult to get together
a team of potential mentors, so *please* take this call seriously and
consider joining the effort. Also from last year's experience I can say
that mentoring *does* take its time but it's definitely a worthwile
thing to do.

Best
Urs


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