Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 17.07.2008 um 00:28 schrieb Graham Percival:


I'm happy to announce the first draft of NR 1.3 Expressive!
Thanks go to Patrick.  Please proofread this carefully; if you
find any mistakes, omissions, or anything that's unclear, please
post it here!

GDP website:
http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/

Cheers,
- Graham


Should I help with the german translation? I haven't read any of the  
other pre-release documentation, but it looks like the german  
translation could use another volunteer.



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Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:38:51 +0200
James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Should I help with the german translation? I haven't read any of the  
 other pre-release documentation, but it looks like the german  
 translation could use another volunteer.

I have nothing to do with the translations, so I'll let somebody
else cover that.

The important thing in my mind is to finish the English docs.
It's no use translating something that'll be completely rewritten
in two months.  I think it's better in the long run for any
translators to completely drop their translation efforts, spend a
month carefully proofreading the English docs, and then resume
translationing when we have a really good, stable set of docs to
work from.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread Mark Knoop
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 15:28 -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
 I'm happy to announce the first draft of NR 1.3 Expressive!

Looks very good, well done. A couple of suggestions:

1.3.1, Dynamics, Vertically aligning dynamics across multiple notes

This example doesn't seem to work - it just aligns the tops of the
dynamic marks. There is an LSR example which uses #'Y-extent as well as
#'staff-padding. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=387

1.3.1, Dynamics, Hiding the extender line for text dynamics

Perhaps the first sentence here Text style dynamic changes (such as
cresc. and dim.) are printed with a dashed line showing their extent.
should be moved up the page to the point where \crescTextCresc etc are
first introduced, and that example could be slightly tweaked so that the
extender line is more apparent. (At the moment the default behaviour
isn't really shown before it's altered.)

1.3.1, New dynamic marks

The first example on this page unfortunately cuts off the top of the
'f'.

Cheers,

Mark


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Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Mark,

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks very good, well done.

Thanks!

 1.3.1, Dynamics, Vertically aligning dynamics across multiple notes

 This example doesn't seem to work - it just aligns the tops of the
 dynamic marks. There is an LSR example which uses #'Y-extent as well as
 #'staff-padding. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=387

Okay, seems like a better example.  I will use it instead.

 1.3.1, Dynamics, Hiding the extender line for text dynamics

 Perhaps the first sentence here Text style dynamic changes (such as
 cresc. and dim.) are printed with a dashed line showing their extent.
 should be moved up the page to the point where \crescTextCresc etc are
 first introduced, and that example could be slightly tweaked so that the
 extender line is more apparent. (At the moment the default behaviour
 isn't really shown before it's altered.)

I will definitely move the sentence, but this example is revealing a
problem with the extender line itself.  The behavior of the extender
line has changed since 2.10 (IMO, for the worse), so I'll report this
as a bug.

 1.3.1, New dynamic marks

 The first example on this page unfortunately cuts off the top of the
 'f'.

This is a known issue:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=268


Thanks for your input,

-Patrick


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Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread Mark Knoop
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 09:42 -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  1.3.1, New dynamic marks
 
  The first example on this page unfortunately cuts off the top of the
  'f'.
 
 This is a known issue:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=268

Yes, I know, just thought that in this case, since the new dynamic
mark is the point of the example, it might be worth changing the
example to work around the bug. e.g.:

\relative c' {
  d e4 d e2_\moltoF
  d e4
}

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Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-17 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 09:42 -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  1.3.1, New dynamic marks
 
  The first example on this page unfortunately cuts off the top of the
  'f'.

 This is a known issue:

 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=268

 Yes, I know, just thought that in this case, since the new dynamic
 mark is the point of the example, it might be worth changing the
 example to work around the bug. e.g.:

 \relative c' {
  d e4 d e2_\moltoF
  d e4
 }

Oh, I see.  Good idea!  I will change it.

Thanks,
Patrick


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GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft

2008-07-16 Thread Graham Percival
I'm happy to announce the first draft of NR 1.3 Expressive!
Thanks go to Patrick.  Please proofread this carefully; if you
find any mistakes, omissions, or anything that's unclear, please
post it here!

GDP website:
http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/

Cheers,
- Graham


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