RE: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Thanks David, much appreciated. > and confusing the bass eye ...doesn't take much (says the tenor) I was thinking about using a bracket/arpeggio as in the documentation. -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+richard=oneill-griffiths@gnu.org On Behalf Of David Wright Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:04 PM To: rich...@oneill-griffiths.net Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template On Wed 17 Apr 2024 at 11:45:51 (+0100), rich...@oneill-griffiths.net wrote: > Hi, I've been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our > choir and I've just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford > Davies) last quarter. > > How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3rd bar? voiceThree will provide the offset, and handle the stem correctly. You can reduce the amount of bracketing too, as attached. > Now if there's also an easier way to show that voice split in the > tenor part, I'd appreciate it. Conventionally, one uses an arpeggio bracket to resolve the ambiguity with semibreves, as shown. I would advise against abandoning convention, and confusing the bass eye, by any use of stemDown in the tenor part. Cheers, David.
Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
On Wed 17 Apr 2024 at 11:45:51 (+0100), rich...@oneill-griffiths.net wrote:
> Hi, I've been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our choir
> and I've just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford Davies) last
> quarter.
>
> How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3rd bar?
voiceThree will provide the offset, and handle the stem correctly.
You can reduce the amount of bracketing too, as attached.
> Now if there's also an easier way to show that voice split in the tenor
> part, I'd appreciate it.
Conventionally, one uses an arpeggio bracket to resolve the ambiguity
with semibreves, as shown.
I would advise against abandoning convention, and confusing the bass eye,
by any use of stemDown in the tenor part.
Cheers,
David.
\version "2.24.0"
\language "english"
global = {
\key c \minor
s1*4 \bar "|."
}
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
<<
c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
\voiceThree
bf4 af4
}
>>
\arpeggioBracket < c g >1 \arpeggio
}
BassMusic = \relative {
af,1 df2 c2 f2 bf,2 ef1
}
\markup {
\fill-line {
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff <<
\clef "bass"
\global
\new Voice = "Tenor" <<
\voiceOne
\TenorMusic
>>
\new Voice = "Bass" <<
\voiceTwo
\BassMusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
fineBarType = "||"
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
}
}
}
RE: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Thanks.
Appreciate the help
-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+richard=oneill-griffiths@gnu.org
On Behalf Of Mats
Bengtsson
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 1:20 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org; rich...@oneill-griffiths.net
Subject: Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
On 2024-04-17 12:45, rich...@oneill-griffiths.net wrote:
>
> Hi, I’ve been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our
> choir and I’ve just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford
> Davies) last quarter.
>
> How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3^rd bar?
>
> Now if there’s also an easier way to show that voice split in the
> tenor part, I’d appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard Griffiths
>
> \version "2.24.0"
>
> \language "english"
>
> global = {
>
> \key c \minor
>
> s1*4 \bar "|."
>
> }
>
> TenorMusic = \relative {
>
> g1 af2 c2 c2
>
> \new Voice = "melody" {
>
> <<
>
> \new Voice {
>
> \voiceTwo
>
> \stemUp
>
> bf4 af4 g1
>
> }
>
> {
>
> \voiceOne
>
> c2 c1
>
> }
>
> >>
>
> }
>
> }
>
> BassMusic= \relative {
>
> af,1 df2 c2 f2 bf,2 ef1
>
> }
>
> \markup {
>
> \fill-line {
>
> \score {
>
> <<
>
> \new ChoirStaff <<
>
> \new Staff <<
>
> \clef "bass"
>
> \global
>
> \new Voice = "Tenor" <<
>
> \voiceOne
>
> \TenorMusic
>
> >>
>
> \new Voice = "Bass" <<
>
> \voiceTwo
>
> \BassMusic
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> \layout {
>
> \context {
>
> \Score
>
> fineBarType = "||"
>
> }
>
> \context {
>
> \Staff
>
> \remove Time_signature_engraver
>
> }
>
> }
>
> }
>
> }
>
> }
>
Why not use \voiceThree and/or \voiceFour, see
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/learning/i_0027m-hearing-voices.
In other words, replace your definition of TenorMusic by
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
<<
\new Voice {
\voiceThree
bf4 af4 g1
}
{
\voiceOne
c2 c1
}
>>
}
}
/Mats
Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
On 2024-04-17 12:45, rich...@oneill-griffiths.net wrote:
Hi, I’ve been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our
choir and I’ve just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford
Davies) last quarter.
How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3^rd bar?
Now if there’s also an easier way to show that voice split in the
tenor part, I’d appreciate it.
Thanks
Richard Griffiths
\version "2.24.0"
\language "english"
global = {
\key c \minor
s1*4 \bar "|."
}
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
<<
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
\stemUp
bf4 af4 g1
}
{
\voiceOne
c2 c1
}
>>
}
}
BassMusic= \relative {
af,1 df2 c2 f2 bf,2 ef1
}
\markup {
\fill-line {
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff <<
\clef "bass"
\global
\new Voice = "Tenor" <<
\voiceOne
\TenorMusic
>>
\new Voice = "Bass" <<
\voiceTwo
\BassMusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
fineBarType = "||"
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
}
}
}
Why not use \voiceThree and/or \voiceFour, see
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/learning/i_0027m-hearing-voices.
In other words, replace your definition of TenorMusic by
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
<<
\new Voice {
\voiceThree
bf4 af4 g1
}
{
\voiceOne
c2 c1
}
>>
}
}
/Mats
RE: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Thank you so much.
From: Michael Werner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 12:55 PM
To: rich...@oneill-griffiths.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Hi Richard,
On 2024-Apr-17 06:45, rich...@oneill-griffiths.net
<mailto:rich...@oneill-griffiths.net> wrote:
Hi, I’ve been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our choir and
I’ve just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford Davies) last quarter.
How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3rd bar?
Now if there’s also an easier way to show that voice split in the tenor part,
I’d appreciate it.
Probably better ways to go about this, but what I came up with is to change the
tenor part to:
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
<<
\new Voice {
\voiceFour
\once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 1.2 bf4 af4 g1
}
{
\voiceOne
c2 c1
}
>>
}
}
This results in:
--
Michael
Re: Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Hi Richard,
On 2024-Apr-17 06:45, rich...@oneill-griffiths.net wrote:
Hi, I’ve been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our choir and
I’ve just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford Davies) last quarter.
How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3^rd bar?
Now if there’s also an easier way to show that voice split in the tenor part,
I’d appreciate it.
Probably better ways to go about this, but what I came up with is to change the
tenor part to:
TenorMusic = \relative { g1 af2 c2 c2 \new Voice = "melody" { << \new Voice {
\voiceFour \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 1.2 bf4 af4 g1 } { \voiceOne c2 c1 } >> } }
This results in:
--
Michael
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Horizontal note spacing in chant template
Hi, I've been using the Anglican chant template to set items for our choir
and I've just a note spacing problem with one chant (Walford Davies) last
quarter.
How do I address the note spacing for the B/C clash in the 3rd bar?
Now if there's also an easier way to show that voice split in the tenor
part, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
Richard Griffiths
\version "2.24.0"
\language "english"
global = {
\key c \minor
s1*4 \bar "|."
}
TenorMusic = \relative {
g1 af2 c2 c2
\new Voice = "melody" {
<<
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo
\stemUp
bf4 af4 g1
}
{
\voiceOne
c2 c1
}
>>
}
}
BassMusic = \relative {
af,1 df2 c2 f2 bf,2 ef1
}
\markup {
\fill-line {
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff <<
\clef "bass"
\global
\new Voice = "Tenor" <<
\voiceOne
\TenorMusic
>>
\new Voice = "Bass" <<
\voiceTwo
\BassMusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
fineBarType = "||"
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
}
}
}
