Re: Horizontal spacing - How to prevent compressing while allowing stretching?
On Sun 09 Oct 2016 at 16:43:49 (-0700), Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Karol, > > By ‘natural’ are you referring to the spacing displayed when ragged-right > is set to true, or something else? > > As far as I know there is no parameter to enable what you want - stretch > but don’t compress. One of the major advantages and features of lilypond is > it’s very smart and subtle spacing algorithms, containing a lot of deep > heuristics other programs lack. > > For me, although it may be tedious and is manual rather than automatic, I > simply put a \break at the point you want a break, and this allows you to > adjust spacing, up to the granularity of a bar. or less than a bar if you use \bar "" \break which is a construction much used in hymnbooks to give priority to the lyrics over the music, especially when each line of music starts with an anacrusis (pickup). > You may also consider turning on proportional spacing. For my new > complexity school scores I have to say that it just does not work very well > at all (the radily changing rhythmic structures confuse it), but for more > common era period music I think people have success with it. Yes. The first time I used it was to set De Profundis (Mozart) which is full of 4. 8 and 8. 16 rhythms. This completely cured all the frequent rhythmic mistakes being made by the choir when previously they sang from conventional copies. > There are also ‘new spacing section’ commands you may want to look up. I’m > no expert on that - others here will know more! > > There’s also some code around to set a fixed number of bars per line, if > this is of any use for your scores. It goes against the grain a bit but it > can be made to work and there are uses for that. > > Andrew > > > > On 9 October 2016 at 9:35:56 pm, Karol Majewski wrote: > > When ragged-right is set to false (default) LilyPond either stretches a > line (system) or compresses it. I'd like to modify this behaviour so that > LilyPond only stretches a line, but never compresses it. I don't want my > spacing to be tighter than the natural one. > > Is this adjustable? Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Horizontal spacing - How to prevent compressing while allowing stretching?
Karol, On Sunday, October 9, 2016, Andrew Bernard [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n195252...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hi Karol, > > By ‘natural’ are you referring to the spacing displayed when ragged-right > is set to true, or something else? > > As far as I know there is no parameter to enable what you want - stretch > but don’t compress. One of the major advantages and features of lilypond is > it’s very smart and subtle spacing algorithms, containing a lot of deep > heuristics other programs lack. > > For me, although it may be tedious and is manual rather than automatic, I > simply put a \break at the point you want a break, and this allows you to > adjust spacing, up to the granularity of a bar. > > You may also consider turning on proportional spacing. For my new > complexity school scores I have to say that it just does not work very well > at all (the radily changing rhythmic structures confuse it), but for more > common era period music I think people have success with it. > > There are also ‘new spacing section’ commands you may want to look up. I’m > no expert on that - others here will know more! > > There’s also some code around to set a fixed number of bars per line, if > this is of any use for your scores. It goes against the grain a bit but it > can be made to work and there are uses for that. > > Andrew > I would try something like this if it is that important that you don't get any compressed measures. First compile with all the ragged-... = ##t so that you can see where the natural break points are located. Then, follow Andrew's advice by inserting the manual \break after the measures at the end of each system. Not sure if there's a better way than that. Not sure if it even works, but could be worth a try. Good luck, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Horizontal-spacing-How-to-prevent-compressing-while-allowing-stretching-tp195240p195253.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Horizontal spacing - How to prevent compressing while allowing stretching?
Hi Karol, By ‘natural’ are you referring to the spacing displayed when ragged-right is set to true, or something else? As far as I know there is no parameter to enable what you want - stretch but don’t compress. One of the major advantages and features of lilypond is it’s very smart and subtle spacing algorithms, containing a lot of deep heuristics other programs lack. For me, although it may be tedious and is manual rather than automatic, I simply put a \break at the point you want a break, and this allows you to adjust spacing, up to the granularity of a bar. You may also consider turning on proportional spacing. For my new complexity school scores I have to say that it just does not work very well at all (the radily changing rhythmic structures confuse it), but for more common era period music I think people have success with it. There are also ‘new spacing section’ commands you may want to look up. I’m no expert on that - others here will know more! There’s also some code around to set a fixed number of bars per line, if this is of any use for your scores. It goes against the grain a bit but it can be made to work and there are uses for that. Andrew On 9 October 2016 at 9:35:56 pm, Karol Majewski wrote: When ragged-right is set to false (default) LilyPond either stretches a line (system) or compresses it. I'd like to modify this behaviour so that LilyPond only stretches a line, but never compresses it. I don't want my spacing to be tighter than the natural one. Is this adjustable? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Horizontal spacing - How to prevent compressing while allowing stretching?
Hi, I have question related to horizontal spacing. When ragged-right is set to false (default) LilyPond either stretches a line (system) or compresses it. I'd like to modify this behaviour so that LilyPond only stretches a line, but never compresses it. I don't want my spacing to be tighter than the natural one. Is this adjustable? Karol ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
