Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
On Fri 16 Sep 2022 at 08:02:35 (-0700), Knute Snortum wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:29 PM Eef Weenink wrote: > > > > I use the crop function to minimize the white around the music. > > If you want, you can do this inside LilyPond in a paper block: > > top-margin = 5\mm > bottom-margin = 6\mm > left-margin = 10\mm > right-margin = 10\mm Like altering set-global-staff-size, moving the margins can change the layout of the music, in ways that may or may not be satisfactory. At the very least, you have to check with each alteration made. If you're preparing scores for two modes of display, like Eff, it may be worth considering an external program to crop the pages of the score, like pdfcrop. The margins for a printed copy are often constrained by the physically printable area of an individual printer, whereas screens can display to the very edge. But generating both from the same LP output ensures that all the musicians will see exactly the same layout, page turns, etc. Cheers, David.
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
Hi
I have several devices to show the music on. Rather than try to adjust the
size, I measure the visible area on the screen and tell LilyPond to use
that as its paper size. I have a 27" screen, so for that, I set the paper
size to half the width and get my PDF viewer to show two pages at once. On
screens I see little point in margins so I use and include file "Output for
BENQ" which says:
\paper {
paper-height = 324 \mm paper-width = 295\mm
top-margin = 1 bottom-margin = 1 left-margin = 5 right-margin = 5
}
and then at the end of the .ly file I have:
music = {
\new PianoStaff \with {
...
} }
"A4book" =\book {
\include "Output for A4.ily"
\bookOutputName "Grieg - (A4) Wedding day at Troldhaugen (Lyric piece
53)"
\score {
\music
\layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 16) }
%\midi { \tempo 4=80 }
}
}
tabletBook = \book {
\include "Output for Tablet.ily"
\bookOutputName "Grieg - (tablet) Wedding day at Troldhaugen (Lyric
piece 53)"
\score {
\music
\layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 16) }
}
}
PCBook = \book {
\include "Output for BenQ.ily"
\bookOutputName "Grieg - (PC) Wedding day at Troldhaugen (Lyric piece
53)"
\score {
\music
\layout { #(layout-set-staff-size 16) }
}
}
%\"A4book"
\PCBook
I am pleasantly surprised by how seldom I need to insert \tag's in the
music to control the manual pagebreaks to get repeats to show at nice
locations.
Hope this helps
Paul McKay
On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 16:02, Knute Snortum wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:29 PM Eef Weenink
> wrote:
> >
> > I use the crop function to minimize the white around the music.
>
> If you want, you can do this inside LilyPond in a paper block:
>
> top-margin = 5\mm
> bottom-margin = 6\mm
> left-margin = 10\mm
> right-margin = 10\mm
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:29 PM Eef Weenink wrote: > > I use the crop function to minimize the white around the music. If you want, you can do this inside LilyPond in a paper block: top-margin = 5\mm bottom-margin = 6\mm left-margin = 10\mm right-margin = 10\mm -- Knute Snortum
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
I recognize the issue. My working method: 1. In lilypond I go for the best options, like staffsize, number of systems per page, number of pages, etcetera. 2. On the iPad I have Forscore for practicing music. To get the best view on about 2-3 feet distance, I use the crop function to minimize the white around the music. 3. If needed I export this pdf for printing on paper A4 or A3 sized. Best results in not too much time. Met vriendelijke groet, Eef H.E. Weenink MBA > Op 16 sep. 2022 om 02:59 heeft David Wright het > volgende geschreven: > > On Thu 15 Sep 2022 at 16:50:30 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >> >> Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not >> see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, >> text, everything). > > Everything? including the paper? > >> Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself? If so, does that decrease the >> clarity/precision of the presentation? > > Yes, if you want to make the music larger on each page, with > fewer measures/line and lines/page, and using more pages. > > #(set-global-staff-size 20.0) is the default. Increase or > decrease accordingly. > >> I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally. > > Oh, scratch the previous paragraph. Just find a viewer that's > able to increase and decrease the magnification. (Don't they all?) > >> My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and >> sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails. > > That suggests that it's not obvious how you should be controlling > your viewer. Tyically, you'd put your fingers on the screen and > slide them apart to expand the display, or you'd select > magnification factors from a menu (or, as I do, have predefined > keystrokes, 0–9, z, h, w, that set preferred magnifications, > 100–2000%, fit to page, height, or width). > > So it depends on which you and your wife want. > > Cheers, > David. >
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
On Thu 15 Sep 2022 at 16:50:30 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not > see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, > text, everything). Everything? including the paper? > Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself? If so, does that decrease the > clarity/precision of the presentation? Yes, if you want to make the music larger on each page, with fewer measures/line and lines/page, and using more pages. #(set-global-staff-size 20.0) is the default. Increase or decrease accordingly. > I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally. Oh, scratch the previous paragraph. Just find a viewer that's able to increase and decrease the magnification. (Don't they all?) > My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and > sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails. That suggests that it's not obvious how you should be controlling your viewer. Tyically, you'd put your fingers on the screen and slide them apart to expand the display, or you'd select magnification factors from a menu (or, as I do, have predefined keystrokes, 0–9, z, h, w, that set preferred magnifications, 100–2000%, fit to page, height, or width). So it depends on which you and your wife want. Cheers, David.
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
Hi Knute; Thank you. It may seem obvious but I wasn't sure if that would also change the notes and other aspects as well. I will experiment with this and see if she likes the new output better. Thanks, Ken On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 5:03 PM Knute Snortum wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:50 PM Kenneth Wolcott > wrote: > > > > Hi; > > > > Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do > not see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, > text, everything). > > > > Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself? If so, does that decrease > the clarity/precision of the presentation? > > > > I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally. > > > > My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad > and sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails. > > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > I think you can do this by manipulating the staff size: > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/setting-the-staff-size >
Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:50 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi; > > Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not > see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, text, > everything). > > Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself? If so, does that decrease the > clarity/precision of the presentation? > > I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally. > > My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and > sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails. > > Thanks, > Ken I think you can do this by manipulating the staff size: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/setting-the-staff-size
How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)
Hi; Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, text, everything). Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself? If so, does that decrease the clarity/precision of the presentation? I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally. My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails. Thanks, Ken
