Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-05 Thread Simon Albrecht 

On 05.11.2016 05:01, Paul Scott wrote:

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 07:21:05PM -0700, Christopher Heckman wrote:

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Simon Albrecht  wrote:

On 04.11.2016 09:11, Christopher Heckman wrote:

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

Hi Chris,
[...]
In that case, another opportunity to step forward with the now much-used
\after function, here to be applied as

Now much-used \after function?  It's not in the index of the notation manual.

What does it do?  Where is it documented?


It’s not in LilyPond proper (yet), although the request to include it 
has been uttered before. That is partly because I’m not quite sure the 
name is appropriate for an official function, and partly because nobody 
has included and documented it yet.
I sent it to the list multiple times, including in this thread (before 
it broke) – but it doesn’t cost anything to attach it with a small 
example once more.


Best, Simon
\version "2.18.2"

% Thanks to David Kastrup for the inspiration!
after =
#(define-music-function (parser location t e m) (ly:duration? ly:music? ly:music?)
   #{
 \context Bottom <<
   #m
   { \skip $t <> -\tweak extra-spacing-width #empty-interval $e }
 >>
   #})

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RE: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-04 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Hi All,

I must say that I had the same question! Where can we find this?

Andrew


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Subject: Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

Now much-used \after function?  It's not in the index of the notation
manual.

What does it do?  Where is it documented?



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Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-04 Thread Paul Scott 
On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 07:21:05PM -0700, Christopher Heckman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Simon Albrecht  wrote:
> > On 04.11.2016 09:11, Christopher Heckman wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Simon Albrecht 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Chris,
> >>> [...]
> >>> In that case, another opportunity to step forward with the now much-used
> >>> \after function, here to be applied as

Now much-used \after function?  It's not in the index of the notation manual.

What does it do?  Where is it documented?

Thank you,

Paul


> >>> \after 3/4 \! c1\>
> >>
> >> This last one _doesn't_ work for me. I get two hairpins (< >) to the
> >> right and below the whole note.
> >
> >
> > Please give a complete, compilable example.
> 
> Well, this seems silly. I also had the following in my .ly file:
> 
>  { \after 4 \< \after 2 \> \after 2. \! c'1 }
> 
> so it was working correctly.
> 
> (And that is the reason why I don't want to make everything public.)
> 
> ((A few minutes later:))
> 
> However, I'm not going to annoy future readers by saying "I figured it
> out", and will actually send this out to the group for closure.
> 
> 
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Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-04 Thread Christopher Heckman 
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Simon Albrecht  wrote:
> On 04.11.2016 09:11, Christopher Heckman wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Simon Albrecht 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> [...]
>>> In that case, another opportunity to step forward with the now much-used
>>> \after function, here to be applied as
>>> \after 3/4 \! c1\>
>>
>> This last one _doesn't_ work for me. I get two hairpins (< >) to the
>> right and below the whole note.
>
>
> Please give a complete, compilable example.

Well, this seems silly. I also had the following in my .ly file:

 { \after 4 \< \after 2 \> \after 2. \! c'1 }

so it was working correctly.

(And that is the reason why I don't want to make everything public.)

((A few minutes later:))

However, I'm not going to annoy future readers by saying "I figured it
out", and will actually send this out to the group for closure.


--- CCH

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Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht 

Hi Chris,

we use to always keep communication on-list, except in special 
circumstances. Thus everybody will be able to follow and see whether 
there has been a solution, or look it up in the archives. So ‘reply all’.



On 01.11.2016 23:02, Christopher Heckman wrote:

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Simon Albrecht  wrote:

On 31.10.2016 06:10, Jay Anderson wrote:

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Heckman
 wrote:

I stumbled on this hack, and it doesn't appear to be anywhere online.

As is, you can't have a hairpin run until the very end of a score; it
will stop before the last note. You also can't add \! to a \bar;
Lilypond complains that it is not a musical event.

The idea is to use \afterGrace, with an invisible grace note.

\absolute {
  c'2\> \afterGrace d' { s16\! } |
  }

MIDI translates this as you would expect, without an extra note at the
end.

However, this will not work if the hairpin starts on the last printed
note.

I tend to use this:

c1\> s1*0\! |

Or you can use an empty chord:
c1 <>\!

Best, Simon

I haven't tried these yet, but it looks like the hairpin would extend
to the end of the bar; in my fix, it ends about 3/4 of the way there.


In that case, another opportunity to step forward with the now much-used 
\after function, here to be applied as

\after 3/4 \! c1\>

See attachment.
Best, Simon
\version "2.18.2"

% Thanks to David Kastrup for the inspiration!
after =
#(define-music-function (parser location t e m) (ly:duration? ly:music? ly:music?)
   #{
 \context Bottom <<
   #m
   { \skip $t <> -\tweak extra-spacing-width #empty-interval $e }
 >>
   #})

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Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht 

On 31.10.2016 06:10, Jay Anderson wrote:

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Heckman
 wrote:

I stumbled on this hack, and it doesn't appear to be anywhere online.

As is, you can't have a hairpin run until the very end of a score; it
will stop before the last note. You also can't add \! to a \bar;
Lilypond complains that it is not a musical event.

The idea is to use \afterGrace, with an invisible grace note.

\absolute {
 c'2\> \afterGrace d' { s16\! } |
 }

MIDI translates this as you would expect, without an extra note at the end.

However, this will not work if the hairpin starts on the last printed note.

I tend to use this:

c1\> s1*0\! |


Or you can use an empty chord:
c1 <>\!

Best, Simon

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Re: Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-10-30 Thread Jay Anderson 
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Christopher Heckman
 wrote:
> I stumbled on this hack, and it doesn't appear to be anywhere online.
>
> As is, you can't have a hairpin run until the very end of a score; it
> will stop before the last note. You also can't add \! to a \bar;
> Lilypond complains that it is not a musical event.
>
> The idea is to use \afterGrace, with an invisible grace note.
>
> \absolute {
> c'2\> \afterGrace d' { s16\! } |
> }
>
> MIDI translates this as you would expect, without an extra note at the end.
>
> However, this will not work if the hairpin starts on the last printed note.

I tend to use this:

c1\> s1*0\! |

-Jay

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Making a Hairpin end close to the end of a Score

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher Heckman 
I stumbled on this hack, and it doesn't appear to be anywhere online.

As is, you can't have a hairpin run until the very end of a score; it
will stop before the last note. You also can't add \! to a \bar;
Lilypond complains that it is not a musical event.

The idea is to use \afterGrace, with an invisible grace note.

\absolute {
c'2\> \afterGrace d' { s16\! } |
}

MIDI translates this as you would expect, without an extra note at the end.

However, this will not work if the hairpin starts on the last printed note.

--- Christopher Heckman

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