Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch writes: Philip Thomas wrote: Dear fellow-users, I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the piece: Phil Holmes wrote: You may like to check and eventually test David's work on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2598 -- Phil Holmes Thanks, developers, for addressing the matter -- and so quickly, at that. But the likes of me test it? Would that involve downloading a patch? Pretty scary. Some day maybe I'll get to that stage, but not just yet. For the moment I'm content to luxuriate in a state of grateful and lazy trust, and await v.2.16. :) 2.15.41, once released, should not require more work installing and testing than 2.16. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message - From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear Dear fellow-users, I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the piece: You may like to check and eventually test David's work on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2598 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Philip Thomas wrote: Dear fellow-users, I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the piece: Phil Holmes wrote: You may like to check and eventually test David's work on http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2598 -- Phil Holmes Thanks, developers, for addressing the matter -- and so quickly, at that. But the likes of me test it? Would that involve downloading a patch? Pretty scary. Some day maybe I'll get to that stage, but not just yet. For the moment I'm content to luxuriate in a state of grateful and lazy trust, and await v.2.16. :) Cheers, Philip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g. enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result, but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as
usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g.
enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result, but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
I found I had to use the (word solution - I use a regex in my application
that creates lilypond code to do just this.
--
Phil Holmes
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RE: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
-Original Message-
From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net]
Sent: Monday 11 June 2012 15:13
To: Philip Thomas; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses,
but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The
closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from
the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in
the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel
confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as
usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g.
enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result,
but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
I found I had to use the (word solution - I use a regex in my
application
that creates lilypond code to do just this.
--
Phil Holmes
Thanks Phil,
Especially for a reply within minutes, if not mere seconds, from when I
posed the question!
Not quite the reply I was hoping for, but at least it suggests that I'm not
barking up the wrong tree completely.
(If I were game enough, I might admit that when I first glanced at your
reference to the (word solution, I took you to mean MS Word, which can be
quite handy, using macros, in working on .ly text files to do this sort of
task. But I'm not game enough.)
If other experienced users have encountered the same problem with opening
parentheses in lyrics, this seems to me to be significant enough to be
reported as a bug, but I'm not experienced in reporting real bugs as
distinct from apparent errors in the documentation. Would that be making a
mountain of a molehill?
Cheers, Philip
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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: 'Phil Holmes' m...@philholmes.net; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
-Original Message-
From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net]
Sent: Monday 11 June 2012 15:13
To: Philip Thomas; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
- Original Message -
From: Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses,
but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The
closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from
the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in
the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel
confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as
usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g.
enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result,
but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
I found I had to use the (word solution - I use a regex in my
application
that creates lilypond code to do just this.
--
Phil Holmes
Thanks Phil,
Especially for a reply within minutes, if not mere seconds, from when I
posed the question!
Not quite the reply I was hoping for, but at least it suggests that I'm
not
barking up the wrong tree completely.
(If I were game enough, I might admit that when I first glanced at your
reference to the (word solution, I took you to mean MS Word, which can
be
quite handy, using macros, in working on .ly text files to do this sort of
task. But I'm not game enough.)
If other experienced users have encountered the same problem with opening
parentheses in lyrics, this seems to me to be significant enough to be
reported as a bug, but I'm not experienced in reporting real bugs as
distinct from apparent errors in the documentation. Would that be making a
mountain of a molehill?
Cheers, Philip
It was mentioned in earlier emails (as in lots of years ago) as a possible
bug, since you can't have slurs in lyrics. I think I'll send a report to
the bugs group.
--
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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Hello Philip,
you might use markup-lists. In markups, the parens are typeset:
--snip--
\version 2.15.40
% should run in 2.14
% define a music-function, to convert a markup-list to a list of LyricEvents
lyricmarkup = #(define-music-function (parser location mup)(markup-list?)
(make-music 'SequentialMusic
'elements (map
(lambda (syl) (make-music 'LyricEvent
'text syl
'duration (ly:make-duration 2 0 1 1)))
mup)))
% a test
\new Staff \new Voice = mel \relative c'' {
c4. b8 a4 cis
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel
\lyricmode {
\lyricmarkup \markuplist { (oo bi doo) }
% override can't be inside markuplist!
\once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
didididididididididi
}
--snip--
But you can't use lyric-overrides inside the markup-list - so if you use
a lot them, this will not be helpful :-(
... and using \lyricmarkup \markuplist {} is a lot to type ...
But still, you might try it ;-)
Cheers, Jan-Peter
On 11.06.2012 15:04, Philip Thomas wrote:
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
piece:
\version 2.14.2
\relative c'
\new Voice = melody {
\time 12/8
fis2.( f |
a4.) a4 g8 g4 f8 f4. |
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
blue __ (oo -- by -- doo -- by -- doo)
}
I have looked but haven't succeeded in finding a reference to this in the
documentation or on the forum, but at this stage I don't feel confident in
reporting it as a bug. Any advice would be appreciated. Apologies, as usual,
if I've missed an existing solution or explanation.
BTW, I know that I can solve the problem with a work-around, e.g. enclosing
the syllable concerned in quotes as (oo produces the correct result, but
it's not a very elegant solution, especially for repeated instances.
Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Philip Thomas-2 wrote:
Dear fellow-users,
I'm working on a vocal piece in which some lyrics are in parentheses, but
the opening parentheses don't appear in the output PDF file. The closing
parentheses are fine. By way of example, here's a couple of bars from the
piece:
you can use text-replacements, see NR 3.3.3 Special characters. ASCII
aliases
it's described there how to add your own characters, e.g.
\paper {
#(add-text-replacements!
'(
(lparen; . ()))
}
I don't know if its really elegant!?
hth
Eluze
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RE: Opening parentheses in lyrics don't appear
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote (11 Jun 2012 14:46:31):
It was mentioned in earlier emails (as in lots of years ago) as a possible
bug, since you can't have slurs in lyrics.
--
Aha. Not a solution, but I now have a better feel for the problem.
--
I think I'll send a report to
the bugs group.
I think it would be good to have a simple solution for something which must
arise reasonably often, but I'm most certainly no developer.
Jan-Peter Voigt jp.vo...@gmx.de wrote (Jun 2012 15:48:45):
you might use markup-lists. In markups, the parens are typeset:
--snip--
\version 2.15.40
% should run in 2.14
% define a music-function, to convert a markup-list to a list of
LyricEvents
lyricmarkup = #(define-music-function (parser location mup)(markup-list?)
(make-music 'SequentialMusic
'elements (map
(lambda (syl) (make-music 'LyricEvent
'text syl
'duration (ly:make-duration 2 0 1 1)))
mup)))
% a test
\new Staff \new Voice = mel \relative c'' {
c4. b8 a4 cis
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel
\lyricmode {
\lyricmarkup \markuplist { (oo bi doo) }
% override can't be inside markuplist!
\once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
didididididididididi
}
--snip--
But you can't use lyric-overrides inside the markup-list - so if you use
a lot them, this will not be helpful :-(
... and using \lyricmarkup \markuplist {} is a lot to type ...
But still, you might try it ;-)
Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote (Jun 2012 06:57:36):
you can use text-replacements, see NR 3.3.3 Special characters. ASCII
aliases
it's described there how to add your own characters, e.g.
\paper {
#(add-text-replacements!
'(
(lparen; . ()))
}
I don't know if its really elegant!?
Many thanks Jan-Peter and Eluze. I think on balance that, unless and until a
more simple solution appears, I might as well stick to (word for the time
being.
Cheers, Phil
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