Optional notation
In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an optional triolet I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score. Any suggestions? Outlook.jpg___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optional notation
Robert Querner wrote: In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an optional triolet I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score. Any suggestions? It's a bit hard to see in that image but it looks as if the first half of the beam is solid and the second half has breaks in it. Is that what you're trying to achieve? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Optional notation
The beam for between the 2nd and 3rd note is dashed, the 3rd note smaller and the phrasing slur is dashed too. -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+robert.64=dbmail@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+robert.64=dbmail@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Kulp Sent: 02 June 2009 13:36 To: Robert Querner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Optional notation Robert Querner wrote: In the Menuet in chapter 7 of AM Bach's notebook from 1725 there is an optional triolet I don't seem to be able to work out how to get this into the score. Any suggestions? It's a bit hard to see in that image but it looks as if the first half of the beam is solid and the second half has breaks in it. Is that what you're trying to achieve? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optional notation
Robert wrote:
The beam for between the 2nd and 3rd note is dashed, the 3rd note smaller
and the phrasing slur is dashed too.
This is not good enough but maybe it'll give some ideas. I have the
feeling that some scheme is necessary but I don't know how to do it. My
first thought on how to do it is to have two voices with the same notes
but with different properties. In one voice, the beam will be solid but
only connect the first two notes, and in the other voice, the beam will
be dashed going from the first to third notes of the triplet. The solid
beam will hide the dashed beam between 1st and 2nd notes, but you'll be
able to see the dashed beams between 2nd and 3rd notes. The dashed slur
and smaller notehead are easy. The main problem is I've never seen a
dashed beam in lilypond before. Anyway here's my time-rushed attempt
using only one voice and a partial beam. It might look nearly decent if
you adjust the beam slant on the 3rd note.
Jon
\version 2.12.1
\relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4
}
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Re: Optional notation
Op dinsdag 02 juni 2009, schreef Jonathan Kulp:
\version 2.12.1
\relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4
}
this one has the small beam in the same slope as the other one, and uses a
(more modern) tuplet bracket (instead of the slur), which is dashed to
indicate it's optionality.
\version 2.12.1
\relative c'' {
\once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\once \override TupletBracket #'style = #'dashed-line
\once \override TupletBracket #'dash-period = #1
\once \override TupletBracket #'dash-fraction = #1/6
\times 2/3 {
c8[
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0
d
\teeny
e]
}
\normalsize
f,4
}
best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen
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RE: Optional notation
I forgot to tell that this particular score was written in the old C clef :)
Anyway, a bit of fiddling around with the various solutions proposed, I
found that this gives the desired result:
\times 2/3 { \slurDashed a8[( \set stemRightBeamCount = #0 b \teeny c)]}
\normalsize d,4 fis |
Thanks for the precious help.
Robert
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From: Wilbert Berendsen [mailto:lily...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: 02 June 2009 14:57
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Cc: Jonathan Kulp; Robert
Subject: Re: Optional notation
Op dinsdag 02 juni 2009, schreef Jonathan Kulp:
\version 2.12.1
\relative c'' {
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\times 2/3{\slurDashed c8([ d] \set fontSize = #-2
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0 e[])} \unset fontSize f,4 }
this one has the small beam in the same slope as the other one, and uses a
(more modern) tuplet bracket (instead of the slur), which is dashed to
indicate it's optionality.
\version 2.12.1
\relative c'' {
\once \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\once \override TupletBracket #'style = #'dashed-line
\once \override TupletBracket #'dash-period = #1
\once \override TupletBracket #'dash-fraction = #1/6
\times 2/3 {
c8[
\set stemRightBeamCount = #0
d
\teeny
e]
}
\normalsize
f,4
}
best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen
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