Re: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
On 16/03/13 15:15, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Ivan:
When I write polyphony for the piano I use { %here pitches for top voice
} \\ { %here pitches for bottom voice} . Lilypond seems to take care of
the stem directions.
I reset you example using this format. Some notes of the voices might need
to be adjusted.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
\score {
\new Staff = voice
{
\clef treble
\time 3/4
\stemDown
c''2 c''4
d''2e''4
e''8 d''8 c''8 b'4 a'8
b'2 r4
}
\new Staff = guitar
{
\clef treble_8
\time 3/4
{ c'2 c'4 | b2 a4 | c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4 | e'4 d'2 }
\\
{ c2 c4 | g2 c'4 | r4 g'4 d'4 | g'4. fs'4.}
}
} % score
Mark
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Subject: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
Attached is the beginning of an arrangement for voice and guitar. The
guitar part is two part counterpoint in which I would like to control where
the steps go up or down.
(1) In the guitar part, even though I have \voiceOne marked with \stemUp and
\voiceTwo marked with \stemDown, why do the stems go down in both voices?
(2) Is this snippet considered an example of best practice, or how might
others structure a file for such a group of instruments?
Thank you for your help.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
\score {
\new Staff = voice
{
\clef treble
\time 3/4
\stemDown
c''2 c''4
d''2e''4
e''8 d''8 c''8 b'4 a'8
b'2 r4
}
\new Staff = guitar
{
\clef treble_8
\time 3/4
\voiceOne
{
\stemUp
c'2 c'4
b2 a4
c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4
e'4 d'2
}
\voiceTwo
{
\stemDown
c2 c4
g2 c'4
r4 g'4 d'4
g'4. fs'4.
}
}
} % score
I think it's better to use named voices. And in single staff polyphony,
the stem direction is taken care of by the voices without having to
explicitly set it - voiceOne and voiceThree default to stemUp, voiceTwo
and voiceFour to stemDown.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
vocal = {
c''2 c''4 |
d''2 e''4 |
e''8 d''8 c''8 b'4 a'8 |
b'2 r4 |
}
guitarUpper = {
c'2 c'4 |
b2 a4 |
c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4 |
e'4 d'2
}
guitarLower = {
c2 c4 |
g2 c'4 |
r4 g'4 d'4 |
g'4. fs'4.
}
\score {
\new Staff = voice
{
\clef treble
\time 3/4
\new Voice { \stemDown \vocal }
}
\new Staff = guitar
{
\clef treble_8
\time 3/4
\new Voice { \voiceOne \guitarUpper }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo \guitarLower }
}
} % score
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Re: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com writes:
Attached is the beginning of an arrangement for
voice and guitar. The guitar part is two part counterpoint
in which I would like to control where the steps go up or
down.
(1) In the guitar part, even though I have \voiceOne marked with \stemUp
and \voiceTwo marked with \stemDown, why do the stems go down
in both voices?
Because there is only ever one voice. To create new voices, you need to
write ... \\ ... or explicitly \new Voice. If you write ...
that is just a way of rearranging the writing order in a single voice.
In this particular case, all of \voiceOne \stemUp \voiceTwo \stemDown
happen at the same musical time in the same voice. \voiceTwo takes
effect, and \stemDown does nothing more since it is already implied in
\voiceTwo.
\voiceOne
{
\stemUp
c'2 c'4
b2 a4
c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4
e'4 d'2
}
\voiceTwo
{
\stemDown
c2 c4
g2 c'4
r4 g'4 d'4
g'4. fs'4.
}
--
David Kastrup
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Re: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
Thanks to everyone who responded.
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes:
When I write polyphony for the piano I use
{ %here pitches for top voice
}
\\
{ %here pitches for bottom voice
}
Yes, your solution works and I have used it in the past.
I was trying to figure out how to use the named voices technique
as I was told it might be better for the polyphonic guitar
music that I write. And Mr. Nick Payne showed me how to do
just that.
Then, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com writes:
(1) In the guitar part, even though I have \voiceOne marked with \stemUp
and \voiceTwo marked with \stemDown, why do the stems go down
in both voices?
Because there is only ever one voice. To create new voices, you need to
write ... \\ ... or explicitly \new Voice. If you write ...
that is just a way of rearranging the writing order in a single voice.
In this particular case, all of \voiceOne \stemUp \voiceTwo \stemDown
happen at the same musical time in the same voice. \voiceTwo takes
effect, and \stemDown does nothing more since it is already implied in
\voiceTwo.
Thank you for your explanation. So I was missing the
the \new Voice tags and brackets. To create this guitar
and voice example, I began working working from a piano choral
example that I had posted on this list and received some feedback on.
I got the example to work in that it did what I wanted, but
perhaps it was still not an example of lilypond best
practices. Although it is a four voice choral for piano, at
no time does this example use the \new Voice tag.
Appended is my working example for this choral. Should I be using
the \new Voice tag in this appended example? Might I be headed for problems
working this way without the \new Voice tag?
Thank you all again for your help and feedback.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = up
{
\clef treble
\time 4/4
\key cs \minor
\voiceOne
{
\stemUp
e'2 e'2 e'2 fs'2fs'2 e'2 ds'!2 ds'2cs'1
}
\voiceTwo
{
\stemUp
cs'2 cs'2 cs'2 d'2 bs2 cs'2 cs'2 bs2 gs1
}
}
\new Staff = down
{
\clef bass
\time 4/4
\key cs \minor
\voiceThree
{
gs2 gs2 a2 a2 gs2 gs2 gs2 fs2 e1
}
\voiceFour
{
cs2 b,2 a,2 fs,2 gs,2 gs,2 gs,2 gs,2 cs1
}
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner
#'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
}
}
\midi {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Staff_performer
}
\context {
\Voice
\consists Staff_performer
}
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 96 4)
}
} % \midi
} % score
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RE: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
Ivan:
When I write polyphony for the piano I use { %here pitches for top voice
} \\ { %here pitches for bottom voice} . Lilypond seems to take care of
the stem directions.
I reset you example using this format. Some notes of the voices might need
to be adjusted.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
\score {
\new Staff = voice
{
\clef treble
\time 3/4
\stemDown
c''2 c''4
d''2e''4
e''8 d''8 c''8 b'4 a'8
b'2 r4
}
\new Staff = guitar
{
\clef treble_8
\time 3/4
{ c'2 c'4 | b2 a4 | c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4 | e'4 d'2 }
\\
{ c2 c4 | g2 c'4 | r4 g'4 d'4 | g'4. fs'4.}
}
} % score
Mark
-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
ivan.k.kuznet...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:52 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: stem directions in music for voice and guitar
Attached is the beginning of an arrangement for voice and guitar. The
guitar part is two part counterpoint in which I would like to control where
the steps go up or down.
(1) In the guitar part, even though I have \voiceOne marked with \stemUp and
\voiceTwo marked with \stemDown, why do the stems go down in both voices?
(2) Is this snippet considered an example of best practice, or how might
others structure a file for such a group of instruments?
Thank you for your help.
\version 2.16.0
\include english.ly
\score {
\new Staff = voice
{
\clef treble
\time 3/4
\stemDown
c''2 c''4
d''2e''4
e''8 d''8 c''8 b'4 a'8
b'2 r4
}
\new Staff = guitar
{
\clef treble_8
\time 3/4
\voiceOne
{
\stemUp
c'2 c'4
b2 a4
c'8 d'8 e'4 f'4
e'4 d'2
}
\voiceTwo
{
\stemDown
c2 c4
g2 c'4
r4 g'4 d'4
g'4. fs'4.
}
}
} % score
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