Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
Malte == Malte Meyn malte.m...@studium.uni-erlangen.de writes: Malte On 13.03.2012 03:52, Peter Chubb wrote: Thomas == Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes: Malte Hm. I see two problems: 1. Did I understand right, that -rall Malte changes the tempo in a single step? That’s more like “subito Malte meno mosso” than “rallentando”, isn’t it?. Yes but it's as close as I can get wihtout a LOT more work. 2. \set Malte tempoWholesPerMinute doesn’t have any effect in the midi Malte output. Is that a bug or a misunderstanding? I use Lilypond Malte 2.14.2-1 Linux 64. It worked before feb last year. -- Dr Peter Chubb peter.chubb AT nicta.com.au http://www.ssrg.nicta.com.au Software Systems Research Group/NICTA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
Peter Chubb peter.ch...@nicta.com.au writes: Looks like there's been a semantic change in Lilypond. It used to be you could \set tempoWholesPerMinute = 60 or similar anywhere in the Lilypond input and the result would be a tempo change at that point. It looks as if now there's a different event, TempoChangeEvent, that does the work. I'll have a go at changing articulate to fix this. The information is still in tempoWholesPerMinute I think, it is just that you need a tempoChangeEvent to get it to the Midi. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
On 13.03.2012 03:52, Peter Chubb wrote:
Thomas == Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
Thomas \version 2.14.2 \include articulate.ly
Thomas \score { \unfoldRepeats \articulate \relative c' { c8-. d-.
Thomas e-. f-. g-.-rall f-. e-. d-. c-. d-. e-. f-. g-.
Thomas f-. e-. d-. c1-. }
Thomas \midi { } }
The rallentendo actually does happen, but at the tempo you're going, it's not
paticularly deep.
If I add a \displayLilyMusic before the \unfoldRepeats I see:
{
{ c'8*1/2 r } { d' r } { e' r } { f' r } { \set tempoWholesPerMinute =
#(ly:make-moment 9 1 0 1)
{ g'-rall r } } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c' r } { d' r } { e' r
} { f' r } { g' r } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c'1*1/2 r }
}
Note the setting of tempoWholesPerMinute. This corresponds to a 40% slowdown.
The default is MM crotchet=60, this should slow down to about MM
crotchet=36. However, note this is the *only* tempo adjustment ---
you need to start with a tempo.
I suggest
\version 2.14.2
\include articulate.ly
\score {
\displayLilyMusic\unfoldRepeats \articulate
\relative c' {
\set tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 4 80)
c8-. d-. e-. f-.
g-.-rall f-. e-. d-.
c-. d-. e-. f-.
g-. f-. e-. d-.
c1-.
}
\midi { }
}
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nicta.com.au
http://www.ssrg.nicta.com.au Software Systems Research Group/NICTA
Hm. I see two problems:
1. Did I understand right, that -rall changes the tempo in a single
step? That’s more like “subito meno mosso” than “rallentando”, isn’t it?.
2. \set tempoWholesPerMinute doesn’t have any effect in the midi output.
Is that a bug or a misunderstanding? I use Lilypond 2.14.2-1 Linux 64.
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Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
Thomas == Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
Thomas \version 2.14.2 \include articulate.ly
Thomas \score { \unfoldRepeats \articulate \relative c' { c8-. d-.
Thomas e-. f-. g-.-rall f-. e-. d-. c-. d-. e-. f-. g-.
Thomas f-. e-. d-. c1-. }
Thomas \midi { } }
The rallentendo actually does happen, but at the tempo you're going, it's not
paticularly deep.
If I add a \displayLilyMusic before the \unfoldRepeats I see:
{
{ c'8*1/2 r } { d' r } { e' r } { f' r } { \set tempoWholesPerMinute =
#(ly:make-moment 9 1 0 1)
{ g'-rall r } } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c' r } { d' r } { e' r }
{ f' r } { g' r } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c'1*1/2 r }
}
Note the setting of tempoWholesPerMinute. This corresponds to a 40% slowdown.
The default is MM crotchet=60, this should slow down to about MM
crotchet=36. However, note this is the *only* tempo adjustment ---
you need to start with a tempo.
I suggest
\version 2.14.2
\include articulate.ly
\score {
\displayLilyMusic\unfoldRepeats \articulate
\relative c' {
\set tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 4 80)
c8-. d-. e-. f-.
g-.-rall f-. e-. d-.
c-. d-. e-. f-.
g-. f-. e-. d-.
c1-.
}
\midi { }
}
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Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
2012/3/13 Peter Chubb peter.ch...@nicta.com.au:
If I add a \displayLilyMusic before the \unfoldRepeats I see:
{
{ c'8*1/2 r } { d' r } { e' r } { f' r } { \set tempoWholesPerMinute =
#(ly:make-moment 9 1 0 1)
{ g'-rall r } } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c' r } { d' r } { e' r
} { f' r } { g' r } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c'1*1/2 r }
}
Note the setting of tempoWholesPerMinute. This corresponds to a 40% slowdown.
The default is MM crotchet=60, this should slow down to about MM
crotchet=36. However, note this is the *only* tempo adjustment ---
you need to start with a tempo.
I suggest
\version 2.14.2
\include articulate.ly
\score {
\displayLilyMusic \unfoldRepeats \articulate
\relative c' {
\set tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 4 80)
c8-. d-. e-. f-.
g-.-rall f-. e-. d-.
c-. d-. e-. f-.
g-. f-. e-. d-.
c1-.
}
\midi { }
}
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Hi,
thanks for your reply. But playing around with various tempo-settings
I never heard a rallentando.
This code:
\version 2.14.2
\include articulate.ly
\score {
\displayLilyMusic
\unfoldRepeats \articulate
\relative c' {
\tempo 4=180
%\set tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 4 80)
c8-. d-. e-. f-.
g-.-rall f-. e-. d-.
c-. d-. e-. f-.
g-. f-. e-. d-.
c1-.
}
\midi {
%\context {
%\Score
%tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 180 4)
%}
}
}
displays
{
\tempo 4 = 180
{ c'8*1/2 r } { d' r } { e' r } { f' r } { \set
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 27 1 0 1)
{ g'-rall r } } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c' r } { d' r }
{ e' r } { f' r } { g' r } { f' r } { e' r } { d' r } { c'1*1/2 r }
}
with no noticeable difference (apart from the staccatti) to a code
without articulate.ly
Midi attached.
Any idea?
Cheers,
Harm
articulate-test-01.midi
Description: MIDI audio
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Re: articulate.ly with rall not working?
Looks like there's been a semantic change in Lilypond. It used to be you could \set tempoWholesPerMinute = 60 or similar anywhere in the Lilypond input and the result would be a tempo change at that point. It looks as if now there's a different event, TempoChangeEvent, that does the work. I'll have a go at changing articulate to fix this. -- Dr Peter Chubb peter.chubb AT nicta.com.au http://www.ssrg.nicta.com.au Software Systems Research Group/NICTA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
