Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
On 21 juin 2012, at 01:50, Sami wrote: Hi all! This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found it anywhere, so I ask it myself. Excuse any repetition, and please direct me there if it exists and you can find it easily. With lilypond-book and co, what I understood is that one writes a LaTeX document with lilypond snippets. Essentially, it is a text document, and has some musical examples. LaTeX is the boss. What if we want to do the exact opposite? Like, a music book with snippets of TeX or LaTex-formatted text. An ideal situation would be for prefaces, contents, etc. to be in LaTex, or TeX or whatever, and then the music in lilypond, and all of this inside the lilypond file. I suppose that each LaTeX snippet would be a small LaTeX document with its own preamble etc, and most page-formatting variables dictated by lilypond, which would do the analogous of what lilypond-book does, but in reverse. Such a case would be great if one wants to write a music book, but using the Tex text functionality for any big chunks of text, like cover pages, prefaces, contents, etc. Is any of this possible? Nicolas Sceaux is the master of this sort of thing. http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/ He's very generous about sharing his code, so I'm sure you can contact him for ideas. Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
Hi Sami, for the purpose of a text at the beginning of a music-book, I created a markup-list command. This command expects some installed commands: pdflatex and/or xelatex, pdftops and pdfinfo. I use ubuntu so this is installed via aptitude and callable on the console. I don't know anything about how this could work on windows ... These are the function, that I created for my own purposes, so I cannot give any warranty, that they do work as expected! And take care/ATTENTION: This function creates files on your harddisk, processes them with the above mentioned commands *and then removes these working files!* So this is a proof of concept and the answer to your question: yes it is possible But you (or whoever) might have to tweak this stuff to work as *you* expect ;-) HTH cheers, Jan-Peter On 21.06.2012 01:50, Sami wrote: Hi all! This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found it anywhere, so I ask it myself. Excuse any repetition, and please direct me there if it exists and you can find it easily. With lilypond-book and co, what I understood is that one writes a LaTeX document with lilypond snippets. Essentially, it is a text document, and has some musical examples. LaTeX is the boss. What if we want to do the exact opposite? Like, a music book with snippets of TeX or LaTex-formatted text. An ideal situation would be for prefaces, contents, etc. to be in LaTex, or TeX or whatever, and then the music in lilypond, and all of this inside the lilypond file. I suppose that each LaTeX snippet would be a small LaTeX document with its own preamble etc, and most page-formatting variables dictated by lilypond, which would do the analogous of what lilypond-book does, but in reverse. Such a case would be great if one wants to write a music book, but using the Tex text functionality for any big chunks of text, like cover pages, prefaces, contents, etc. Is any of this possible? \version 2.15.37 #(use-modules (lily) (ice-9 popen) (ice-9 rdelim) (ice-9 regex) (scm framework-eps)) % string-join with arbitrary objects #(define-public (glue-list lst glue) create string from list containing arbitrary objects (string-join (map (lambda (s)(format ~A s)) lst) glue 'infix)) % taken from markup-macros.scm #(define (markup-function? x) (and (markup-command-signature x) (not (object-property x 'markup-list-command % extract available page-height from layout and properties #(define-public (content-height layout props) (let ((mm (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'mm)) (height (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'paper-height)) (perc (chain-assoc-get 'percent props 100)) (tm (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'top-margin)) (bm (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'bottom-margin)) (hom (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'oddHeaderMarkup)) (hem (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'evenHeaderMarkup)) (bom (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'oddFooterMarkup)) (bem (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'evenFooterMarkup))) (define (mupheight mup)(if (markup? mup) (let ((y-ext (ly:stencil-extent (interpret-markup layout props mup) Y))) (- (cdr y-ext)(car y-ext))) 0)) (/ (* (- height (+ tm bm (max (mupheight hom)(mupheight hem)) (max (mupheight hom)(mupheight hem (/ perc 100)) mm) )) % create TeX-string from markup #(define-public (markup-tex mup . mprops) (let ((conc (if ( (length mprops) 0) (car mprops) #f)) (layout (if ( (length mprops) 1) (cadr mprops) #f)) (props (if ( (length mprops) 2) (caddr mprops) '())) (mup? (lambda (m)(or (string? m)(list? m)(markup? m (result )) (cond ((string? mup) (set! result mup)) ((null? mup) (set! result )) ((and (pair? mup) (equal? (car mup) concat-markup)) (set! result (markup-tex (cdr mup) #t layout props))) ((and (pair? mup) (equal? (car mup) fromproperty-markup)) (set! result (markup-tex (chain-assoc-get (cadr mup) props ???) conc layout props))) ((and (pair? mup) (equal? (car mup) override-markup)) (set! result (markup-tex (cdr (cdr mup)) conc layout (cons (list (car (cdr mup))) props ((and (pair? mup) (equal? (car mup) page-ref-markup)) (set! result (let* ((table (if layout (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'label-page-table) '())) (pg (assoc-get (car (cdr mup)) table))) (if pg (format ~A pg) (caddr (cdr mup )) ((and (pair? mup)(markup-function? (car mup))) (let ((proc (get-markup-producer (car mup (if (procedure? proc) (set! result (markup-tex (proc layout props (cdr mup (for-each (lambda (m)(set! result (string-append result (if (or conc (string=? result )) ) (markup-tex m conc layout props
Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
Sami sami.ami...@gmail.com writes: This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found it anywhere, so I ask it myself. Excuse any repetition, and please direct me there if it exists and you can find it easily. With lilypond-book and co, what I understood is that one writes a LaTeX document with lilypond snippets. Essentially, it is a text document, and has some musical examples. LaTeX is the boss. What if we want to do the exact opposite? Like, a music book with snippets of TeX or LaTex-formatted text. An ideal situation would be for prefaces, contents, etc. to be in LaTex, or TeX or whatever, and then the music in lilypond, and all of this inside the lilypond file. I suppose that each LaTeX snippet would be a small LaTeX document with its own preamble etc, and most page-formatting variables dictated by lilypond, which would do the analogous of what lilypond-book does, but in reverse. Such a case would be great if one wants to write a music book, but using the Tex text functionality for any big chunks of text, like cover pages, prefaces, contents, etc. Is any of this possible? Probably the easiest way to achieve embedded TeX is to use a version of LilyPond in the vicinity of 2.0. Instead of mulling over the problem whether to run LilyPond first, or TeX first, it would make more sense to run them synchronously in order to get to coordinated page break decisions. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
Thank you to everyone that took the time to answer! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Reverse-Lilypond-Book...-tp34046085p34048185.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: Hi Sami, for the purpose of a text at the beginning of a music-book, I created a markup-list command. This command expects some installed commands: pdflatex and/or xelatex, pdftops and pdfinfo. I use ubuntu so this is installed via aptitude and callable on the console. I don't know anything about how this could work on windows ... These are the function, that I created for my own purposes, so I cannot give any warranty, that they do work as expected! And take care/ATTENTION: This function creates files on your harddisk, processes them with the above mentioned commands *and then removes these working files!* So this is a proof of concept and the answer to your question: yes it is possible But you (or whoever) might have to tweak this stuff to work as *you* expect ;-) HTH cheers, Jan-Peter Wow! Thanks a million! And now I have to understand how this works! See you in a couple hundred thousand years! :-) -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Reverse-Lilypond-Book...-tp34046085p34048364.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Reverse Lilypond Book...
Hi all! This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found it anywhere, so I ask it myself. Excuse any repetition, and please direct me there if it exists and you can find it easily. With lilypond-book and co, what I understood is that one writes a LaTeX document with lilypond snippets. Essentially, it is a text document, and has some musical examples. LaTeX is the boss. What if we want to do the exact opposite? Like, a music book with snippets of TeX or LaTex-formatted text. An ideal situation would be for prefaces, contents, etc. to be in LaTex, or TeX or whatever, and then the music in lilypond, and all of this inside the lilypond file. I suppose that each LaTeX snippet would be a small LaTeX document with its own preamble etc, and most page-formatting variables dictated by lilypond, which would do the analogous of what lilypond-book does, but in reverse. Such a case would be great if one wants to write a music book, but using the Tex text functionality for any big chunks of text, like cover pages, prefaces, contents, etc. Is any of this possible? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Reverse-Lilypond-Book...-tp34046085p34046085.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reverse Lilypond Book...
Am 21.06.2012 01:50, schrieb Sami: Hi all! This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found it anywhere, so I ask it myself. Excuse any repetition, and please direct me there if it exists and you can find it easily. With lilypond-book and co, what I understood is that one writes a LaTeX document with lilypond snippets. Essentially, it is a text document, and has some musical examples. LaTeX is the boss. What if we want to do the exact opposite? Like, a music book with snippets of TeX or LaTex-formatted text. An ideal situation would be for prefaces, contents, etc. to be in LaTex, or TeX or whatever, and then the music in lilypond, and all of this inside the lilypond file. I suppose that each LaTeX snippet would be a small LaTeX document with its own preamble etc, and most page-formatting variables dictated by lilypond, which would do the analogous of what lilypond-book does, but in reverse. Such a case would be great if one wants to write a music book, but using the Tex text functionality for any big chunks of text, like cover pages, prefaces, contents, etc. Is any of this possible? I remember that the following post http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-09/msg4.html showed an example of calling xelatex within lilypond, perhaps this could serva as a starting point. HTH, Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
