Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Michael Rivers]

Anders Eriksson wrote
> On 2016-09-14 12:07, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> - Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" 
>> 

> lilypond@

> 
>> To: "Knut Petersen" 

> Knut_Petersen@

> ; "lilypond-user" 
>> 

> lilypond-user@

> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10
>>
>>
>> I've tried to reproduce this on my Windows 10 machine using Process 
>> Monitor to check file operations.  I get an initial slow run with both 
>> .42 and .43 (I didn't time .42, but .43 was 10.8 seconds).  My second 
>> run with .42 was 0.8 seconds, and 0.4 s with .43.  So I can't help 
>> much further unless I can reproduce the problem.  My Windows version 
>> in 10.0.14393 - what version is the problem appearing on?  Do you have 
>> files in c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 ?  Do they 
>> update every time LilyPond is run?
>>
> After deleting all the files in the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory it 
> works like normal! Takes a bit longer the first time but not in later
> runs.
> 
> One thing that I noticed was that the latest files where called
> ef9c9ad8cc5857eb63cb3660bc8bd202-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW
> 639439a01d569ee739160185e4d7a48e-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW
> 
> The were two files called exactly the same minus the .NEW also in the 
> directory.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for helping!
> 
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Same here -- deleting the files in that directory fixed it for me too.



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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Anders Eriksson]

On 2016-09-14 12:07, Phil Holmes wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" 
<lilyp...@andis59.se>
To: "Knut Petersen" <knut_peter...@t-online.de>; "lilypond-user" 
<lilypond-user@gnu.org>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10


I've tried to reproduce this on my Windows 10 machine using Process 
Monitor to check file operations.  I get an initial slow run with both 
.42 and .43 (I didn't time .42, but .43 was 10.8 seconds).  My second 
run with .42 was 0.8 seconds, and 0.4 s with .43.  So I can't help 
much further unless I can reproduce the problem.  My Windows version 
in 10.0.14393 - what version is the problem appearing on?  Do you have 
files in c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 ?  Do they 
update every time LilyPond is run?


After deleting all the files in the .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory it 
works like normal! Takes a bit longer the first time but not in later runs.


One thing that I noticed was that the latest files where called
ef9c9ad8cc5857eb63cb3660bc8bd202-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW
639439a01d569ee739160185e4d7a48e-i686-mingw32.cache-7.NEW

The were two files called exactly the same minus the .NEW also in the 
directory.





Thanks for helping!

// Anders

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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi Phil,

Thank you for pointing this out!
I've cleared the c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 file and now
everything seems ok:

\version "2.18.2" { c }
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [Untitled]...
Processing `c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-w66wjy/tmprmqi2o/
document.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `document.ps'...
Converting to `./document.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.0".

\version "2.19.47" { c }
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [Untitled]...
Processing `c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-w66wjy/tmprmqi2o/
document.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-UzOPf4'...
Converting to `document.pdf'...
Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-UzOPf4'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 0.8".

Cheers,
Pierre





2016-09-14 12:07 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net>:

> - Original Message - From: "Anders Eriksson" <lilyp...@andis59.se>
> To: "Knut Petersen" <knut_peter...@t-online.de>; "lilypond-user" <
> lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10
>
>
>
>>
>> On 2016-09-11 11:38, Knut Petersen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 2.19.42.1   4.7
>>>> 2.19.43.1   29.8
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't know how to proceed...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you use downloaded versions or do you build lilypond from the source
>>> code?
>>>
>> I downloaded from http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/
>>
>
>
> I've tried to reproduce this on my Windows 10 machine using Process
> Monitor to check file operations.  I get an initial slow run with both .42
> and .43 (I didn't time .42, but .43 was 10.8 seconds).  My second run with
> .42 was 0.8 seconds, and 0.4 s with .43.  So I can't help much further
> unless I can reproduce the problem.  My Windows version in 10.0.14393 -
> what version is the problem appearing on?  Do you have files in
> c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 ?  Do they update every
> time LilyPond is run?
>
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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Eriksson" <lilyp...@andis59.se>
To: "Knut Petersen" <knut_peter...@t-online.de>; "lilypond-user" 
<lilypond-user@gnu.org>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10





On 2016-09-11 11:38, Knut Petersen wrote:



2.19.42.1   4.7
2.19.43.1   29.8




Don't know how to proceed...


Do you use downloaded versions or do you build lilypond from the source 
code?

I downloaded from http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/



I've tried to reproduce this on my Windows 10 machine using Process Monitor 
to check file operations.  I get an initial slow run with both .42 and .43 
(I didn't time .42, but .43 was 10.8 seconds).  My second run with .42 was 
0.8 seconds, and 0.4 s with .43.  So I can't help much further unless I can 
reproduce the problem.  My Windows version in 10.0.14393 - what version is 
the problem appearing on?  Do you have files in 
c:\users\yourusername\.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 ?  Do they update every time 
LilyPond is run?


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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[David Kastrup]

Anders Eriksson  writes:

> On 2016-09-10 22:16, tisimst wrote:
>> Just thought I'd add my two cents. I'm using Windows 8 and I only see a small
>> speed increase between older versions and 2.19.47.
>>
>> Using:
>>
>> \repeat unfold 200 { \tuplet 5/4 { c'4 d' e' f' g' } }
>>
>> and compiling in "publish" mode (i.e., no point-and-click links) I get the
>> following results:
>>
>> 2.18.2 - 6.5 seconds
>> 2.19.36 - 2.7 seconds
>> 2.19.47 - 3.0 seconds
>>
>>
> I have now tested (with the same code) some versions of Lilypond on my
> Windows 10 Anniversary and found this:
> Version Seconds
> 2.18.2.1 6.7
> 2.19.17.1   7.0
> 2.19.27.1   4.0
> 2.19.37.1   4.5
> 2.19.40.1   4.2
> 2.19.42.1   4.7
> 2.19.43.1   29.8
> 2.19.44.1   27.9
> 2.19.46.1   28.2
> 2.19.47.1   28.0
>
> So the problem begins with 2.19.43.

I assume that this is due to changes in GUB or in the font defaults.

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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Anders Eriksson]

On 2016-09-11 11:38, Knut Petersen wrote:



2.19.42.1   4.7
2.19.43.1   29.8




Don't know how to proceed...


Do you use downloaded versions or do you build lilypond from the 
source code?

I downloaded from http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/



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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Anders Eriksson]

On 2016-09-10 22:16, tisimst wrote:

Just thought I'd add my two cents. I'm using Windows 8 and I only see a small
speed increase between older versions and 2.19.47.

Using:

\repeat unfold 200 { \tuplet 5/4 { c'4 d' e' f' g' } }

and compiling in "publish" mode (i.e., no point-and-click links) I get the
following results:

2.18.2 - 6.5 seconds
2.19.36 - 2.7 seconds
2.19.47 - 3.0 seconds


I have now tested (with the same code) some versions of Lilypond on my 
Windows 10 Anniversary and found this:

Version Seconds
2.18.2.1 6.7
2.19.17.1   7.0
2.19.27.1   4.0
2.19.37.1   4.5
2.19.40.1   4.2
2.19.42.1   4.7
2.19.43.1   29.8
2.19.44.1   27.9
2.19.46.1   28.2
2.19.47.1   28.0

So the problem begins with 2.19.43.

Don't know how to proceed...




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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[tisimst]

Just thought I'd add my two cents. I'm using Windows 8 and I only see a small
speed increase between older versions and 2.19.47.

Using:

\repeat unfold 200 { \tuplet 5/4 { c'4 d' e' f' g' } }

and compiling in "publish" mode (i.e., no point-and-click links) I get the
following results:

2.18.2 - 6.5 seconds
2.19.36 - 2.7 seconds
2.19.47 - 3.0 seconds

FWIW,
Abraham



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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Anders Eriksson]

On 2016-09-08 19:03, Michael Rivers wrote:

I'm not sure it's due to a change between v2.19.46 and 47. For most of the
summer, I had been running an older development version and an older version
of Frescobaldi for a while, and they were running fine. I hadn't run
Lilypond in a few weeks, and in the meantime Windows 10 updated to the
"Anniversary edition". When I ran Lilypond again two days ago, it was 20
times slower. Trying to fix that, I updated Lilypond and Frescobaldi to the
newest versions, but that didn't help.

So, while I can't tell exactly what caused the extreme reduction in speed, I
can confirm that Lilypond on the current version of Windows runs
dramatically slower with versions somewhat older than 2.19.47.


I also have noticed the the reduction in speed and one thing I have 
noticed is that every time I compile a .ly file Lilypond will build the 
fonts

Initializing FontConfig...

Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-46-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/00-lilypond-fonts.conf


Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-46-1/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts/fonts.conf


Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-46-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/99-lilypond-fonts.conf


Adding font directory: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-46-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf


Building font database


and in the 2.19.47.1 version


Initializing FontConfig...

Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-47-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/00-lilypond-fonts.conf


Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-47-1/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts/fonts.conf


Adding fontconfig configuration file: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-47-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/99-lilypond-fonts.conf


Adding font directory: 
C:/lilypond-2-19-47-1/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf


Building font database...


I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary Update


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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Michael Rivers]

I'm not sure it's due to a change between v2.19.46 and 47. For most of the
summer, I had been running an older development version and an older version
of Frescobaldi for a while, and they were running fine. I hadn't run
Lilypond in a few weeks, and in the meantime Windows 10 updated to the
"Anniversary edition". When I ran Lilypond again two days ago, it was 20
times slower. Trying to fix that, I updated Lilypond and Frescobaldi to the
newest versions, but that didn't help.

So, while I can't tell exactly what caused the extreme reduction in speed, I
can confirm that Lilypond on the current version of Windows runs
dramatically slower with versions somewhat older than 2.19.47.



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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Simon Albrecht]

Hi Pierre,

the problem has been reported by Mac users, as a change between v2.19.46 
and .47, in that now it takes so long on every run instead of only the 
very first. Presumably because the font cache is always being rebuilt. 
Maybe it’s the same problem?


Best, Simon

On 06.09.2016 16:59, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:

Maybe an simpler compilation:

\version "2.18.2" { c' }

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [Untitled]...
Processing 
`c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-zjscau/tmpaf0a6q/document.ly 
'

Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `document.ps '...
Converting to `./document.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.0".

\version "2.19.47" { c' }

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [Untitled]...
Processing 
`c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-zjscau/tmpaf0a6q/document.ly 
'

Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-Jfo5ib'...
Converting to `document.pdf'...
Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-Jfo5ib'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 21.2".

Cheers,
Pierre

2016-09-06 16:49 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider 
>:


Hi All,

This morning Win10 forced me to do an update which has last more
than an hour, and then another one few hours later (15mn "only").
Since then, I have a very long run delay with LP v2.19.
For example, the snippet in this thread

:http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Changing-MulitMeasureRest-stencil-to-a-squiggle-td194246.html#a194254



With v2.18.2:
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `marcMultiRestStencil.ps'...
Converting to `./marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.1".

With v2.19.47:
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
Converting to `marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 20.6".

so roughly 20 times longer...
Anyone else has the same problem ?

Cheers,
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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Michael Rivers]

Same problem here. I didn't save any compile times before the update for
comparison, but Lilypond just crawls now. I was compiling a one-page piece
last night, which used to go by in a flash, and now it takes a good 10
seconds.



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Re: Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Maybe an simpler compilation:

\version "2.18.2" { c' }

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [Untitled]...
Processing `c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-zjscau/tmpaf0a6q/
document.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `document.ps'...
Converting to `./document.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.0".

\version "2.19.47" { c' }

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [Untitled]...
Processing `c:/users/pierre/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-zjscau/tmpaf0a6q/
document.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-Jfo5ib'...
Converting to `document.pdf'...
Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-Jfo5ib'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 21.2".

Cheers,
Pierre

2016-09-06 16:49 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>:

> Hi All,
>
> This morning Win10 forced me to do an update which has last more than an
> hour, and then another one few hours later (15mn "only").
> Since then, I have a very long run delay with LP v2.19.
> For example, the snippet in this thread :http://lilypond.1069038.n5.
> nabble.com/Changing-MulitMeasureRest-stencil-to-a-
> squiggle-td194246.html#a194254
>
> With v2.18.2:
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
> Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
> help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
> Parsing...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Finding the ideal number of pages...
> Fitting music on 1 page...
> Drawing systems...
> Layout output to `marcMultiRestStencil.ps'...
> Converting to `./marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
> Success: compilation successfully completed
> Completed successfully in 1.1".
>
> With v2.19.47:
> Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
> Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
> help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
> Parsing...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Finding the ideal number of pages...
> Fitting music on 1 page...
> Drawing systems...
> Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
> Converting to `marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
> Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
> Success: compilation successfully completed
> Completed successfully in 20.6".
>
> so roughly 20 times longer...
> Anyone else has the same problem ?
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
>
>
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Version 2.18 vs.2.19 speed and W10

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi All,

This morning Win10 forced me to do an update which has last more than an
hour, and then another one few hours later (15mn "only").
Since then, I have a very long run delay with LP v2.19.
For example, the snippet in this thread :
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Changing-MulitMeasureRest-stencil-to-a-squiggle-td194246.html#a194254

With v2.18.2:
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `marcMultiRestStencil.ps'...
Converting to `./marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 1.1".

With v2.19.47:
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.47 [marcMultiRestStencil.ly]...
Processing `C:/Users/Pierre/Documents/LilyPond/0
help/marcMultiRestStencil.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
Converting to `marcMultiRestStencil.pdf'...
Deleting `./tmp-lilypond-gB6KlR'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 20.6".

so roughly 20 times longer...
Anyone else has the same problem ?

Cheers,
Pierre
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