Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 8:16 AM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi Ralph, Lukas and David; > > Thank you all for your responses. > > I had no clue where to start on modifying the layout since there are > so many things to examine in the documentation regarding the layout. > > Now I can guess more effectively for the next one that needs to be > expanded/contracted. Here's a good webpage to start with concerning spacing: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/vertical-spacing -- Knute Snortum
Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?
Hi Ralph, Lukas and David; Thank you all for your responses. I had no clue where to start on modifying the layout since there are so many things to examine in the documentation regarding the layout. Now I can guess more effectively for the next one that needs to be expanded/contracted. Thanks, Ken On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 7:31 AM David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 19 Aug 2022 at 09:32:45 (+0200), Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > > What I didn't change: Classical convention would probably give the > > final bar a length of only 4 (with fermata), not 1. But I wouldn't put > > too much stock in this, I know that a crotchet final chord would > > probably look strange, and there are plenty of counterexamples to that > > convention. > > I'm used to seeing this air written in 8/4, which looks like this > (the last note sung would be 1~4). > > Cheers, > David.
Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?
On Fri 19 Aug 2022 at 09:32:45 (+0200), Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
> What I didn't change: Classical convention would probably give the
> final bar a length of only 4 (with fermata), not 1. But I wouldn't put
> too much stock in this, I know that a crotchet final chord would
> probably look strange, and there are plenty of counterexamples to that
> convention.
I'm used to seeing this air written in 8/4, which looks like this
(the last note sung would be 1~4).
Cheers,
David.
\version "2.22.2"
% Danny Boy (Londonderry Air)
global = {
\language "english"
\numericTimeSignature
\time 8/4
\key c \major
\tempo "Smoothly, with expression"
\partial 2.
}
\header {
title = "Danny Boy"
subtitle = "(Londonderry Air)"
}
\paper {
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
markup-system-spacing.padding = 3
}
\layout {
system-count = 7
\accidentalStyle modern
}
rh = {
\global
\clef treble
b'4^2 c''^1 d'' | % m01
e''4 a'' g'' e'' | % m02
d''4^1 c''^3 a' c'' | % m03
g'2 | % m04
%\break
4\fermata b^2 c'^1 d' | % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
e'2. d'4| % m06
%\break
e'4 a' g' e'| % m07
%\break
d'4^1(c')^2 a2^1 ~ | % m08
a4 c' e' f' | % m09
g'2. a'4| % m10
%\break
g'4 e' c' e'^3 | % m11
%\break
d'1 ~| % m12
d'4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m13
%\break
e'2. d'4| % m14
%\break
e'4 a' g' e'| % m15
d'4^1(c'^2) a2^1 ~ | % m16
%\break
a4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m17
2. f'4 | % m18
e'4 d' c' d'| % m19
%\break
c'1 ~ | % m20
c'4 g'^2 a' b' | % m21
2. b'4 | % m22
b'4 a' g' a'| % m23
%\break
g'4(e') c'2 ~ | % m24
c'4 g'^2 a' b' | % m25
2. b'4 | % m26
%\break
b'4 a' g' e'| % m27
d'1 ~ | % m28
d'4 g'^2 q | % m29
%\break
2. d''4 | % m30
4 c'' a' c'' | % m31
g'4(e') c'2 | % m32
%\break
r4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m33
e'4 a' g' e'^2 | % m34
d'4^1 c'^2 a b | % m35
}
%\break
\alternative {
{
c'2 | % m36
4\fermata b^2 c' d' | % m37
}
{
c'1 | % m38
4\fermata | % m39
\bar "|."
}
}
}
piano_dynamics = {
\global
s8\mp s2 s8 | % m01
s1 | % m02
s1 | % m03
s1 | % m04
%\break
s1| % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
s1 | % m06
%\break
s1 | % m07
%\break
s1 | % m08
s1 | % m09
s1 | % m10
%\break
s1 | % m11
%\break
s1 | % m12
s1 | % m13
%\break
s1 | % m14
%\break
s1 | % m15
s1 | % m16
%\break
s1 | % m17
s1 | % m18
s1 | % m19
%\break
s1 | % m20
s1 | % m21
s1 | % m22
s1 | % m23
%\break
s1 | % m24
s1 | % m25
s1 | % m26
%\break
s1 | % m27
s1 | % m28
s1 | % m29
%\break
c4 g c'2 | % m30
f2 c' | % m31
e2 a | % m32
%\break
s1 | % m33
s1 | % m34
s1 | % m35
}
%\break
\alternative {
{
s1 | % m36
s1 | % m37
}
{
s1 | % m38
s4 | % m39
}
}
}
lh = {
\global
\clef bass
r4 r2| % m01
c'2_1 bf | % m02
2 | % m03
2 fs | % m04
%\break
f4\fermata r r2 | % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
c4_5 g c'2 | % m06
%\break
b2 bf | % m07
%\break
a2 f4 e | % m08
d2 | % m09
c2 b! | % m10
%\break
a2_1 fs_2| % m11
%\break
f4_3 d c' a | % m12
g1 | % m13
%\break
c4 g b2 | % m14
%\break
bf1 | % m15
a2 f4 e | % m16
%\break
d2 | % m17
g2 g, | % m18
1 | % m19
%\break
g2 e| % m20
c2 | % m21
c4 g c'2| % m22
2 | % m23
%\break
2 b | % m24
a2| % m25
c4 g c'2 | % m26
%\break
2 | % m27
fs4_3 d c' a| % m28
2 g, | % m29
%\break
c4 g c'2 | % m30
f2 c' | % m31
e2 a | % m32
%\break
1| % m33
g2 a | % m34
2 | % m35
}
%\break
\alternative {
{
2 fs| % m36
f4\fermata r r2 | % m37
}
{
2 g | % m38
c4\fermata | % m39
}
}
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff \with { instrumentName = "Piano" }
<<
\new Staff \rh
\new Dynamics \piano_dynamics
\new Staff \lh
>>
\layout {}
}
\score {
\unfoldRepeats {
<<
\new Staff {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic grand"
\rh
}
\new Dynamics \piano_dynamics
\new Staff {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic grand"
\lh
}
>>
}
\midi {
\tempo 4=108
}
}
derry.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?
Hi Ken,
So I disabled all the forced line breaks.
Now it consumes less than 3/4 of one page and is a little too dense to
read on an iPad.
I'd like to fill the first and only page.
How to do this?
For filling the page, you can do
\paper {
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
In your case, this spreads the systems too far apart on the page, so I
increased the total amount of systems via
\layout {
system-count = 7
}
where 7 was found by trial and error. This way, the bars are made wider,
but I think they still look acceptable.
I took the liberty of making some other small adjustments; feel free to
ignore them if you do not like them (especially since I realise that my
changes are very much influenced by middle-European classical music
notation conventions):
- added \accidentalStyle modern for warning accidentals
- changed the left hand rest in the beginning of the piece (r2. do not
usually start at crotchet-valued position in a bar)
- bar 4/35a: in "classical" enharmonic spelling, this is usually written
as f-sharp, not as g-flat (that's an instance where the usual rule of
thumb "use flats when moving downwards" oversimplifies things)
- markup-system-spacing.padding = 3 to add some space between the title
and the first system
- added final bar line
- paranoid warning accidentals ('!') in mm. 10 and 29
What I didn't change: Classical convention would probably give the final
bar a length of only 4 (with fermata), not 1. But I wouldn't put too
much stock in this, I know that a crotchet final chord would probably
look strange, and there are plenty of counterexamples to that convention.
Lukas
\version "2.22.2"
% Danny Boy (Londonderry Air)
global = {
\language "english"
\numericTimeSignature
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\tempo "Smoothly, with expression"
\partial 2.
}
\header {
title = "Danny Boy"
subtitle = "(Londonderry Air)"
}
\paper {
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
markup-system-spacing.padding = 3
}
\layout {
system-count = 7
\accidentalStyle modern
}
rh = {
\global
\clef treble
b'4^2 c''^1 d'' | % m01
e''4 a'' g'' e'' | % m02
d''4^1 c''^3 a' c'' | % m03
g'2 | % m04
%\break
4\fermata b^2 c'^1 d' | % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
e'2. d'4| % m06
%\break
e'4 a' g' e'| % m07
%\break
d'4^1(c')^2 a2^1 ~ | % m08
a4 c' e' f' | % m09
g'2. a'4| % m10
%\break
g'4 e' c' e'^3 | % m11
%\break
d'1 ~| % m12
d'4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m13
%\break
e'2. d'4| % m14
%\break
e'4 a' g' e'| % m15
d'4^1(c'^2) a2^1 ~ | % m16
%\break
a4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m17
2. f'4 | % m18
e'4 d' c' d'| % m19
%\break
c'1 ~ | % m20
c'4 g'^2 a' b' | % m21
2. b'4 | % m22
b'4 a' g' a'| % m23
%\break
g'4(e') c'2 ~ | % m24
c'4 g'^2 a' b' | % m25
2. b'4 | % m26
%\break
b'4 a' g' e'| % m27
d'1 ~ | % m28
d'4 g'^2 q | % m29
%\break
2. d''4 | % m30
4 c'' a' c'' | % m31
g'4(e') c'2 | % m32
%\break
r4 b^2 c'^1 d' | % m33
e'4 a' g' e'^2 | % m34
d'4^1 c'^2 a b | % m35
}
%\break
\alternative {
{
c'2 | % m36
4\fermata b^2 c' d' | % m37
}
{
c'1 | % m38
1\fermata | % m39
\bar "|."
}
}
}
piano_dynamics = {
\global
s8\mp s2 s8 | % m01
s1 | % m02
s1 | % m03
s1 | % m04
%\break
s1| % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
s1 | % m06
%\break
s1 | % m07
%\break
s1 | % m08
s1 | % m09
s1 | % m10
%\break
s1 | % m11
%\break
s1 | % m12
s1 | % m13
%\break
s1 | % m14
%\break
s1 | % m15
s1 | % m16
%\break
s1 | % m17
s1 | % m18
s1 | % m19
%\break
s1 | % m20
s1 | % m21
s1 | % m22
s1 | % m23
%\break
s1 | % m24
s1 | % m25
s1 | % m26
%\break
s1 | % m27
s1 | % m28
s1 | % m29
%\break
c4 g c'2 | % m30
f2 c' | % m31
e2 a | % m32
%\break
s1 | % m33
s1 | % m34
s1 | % m35
}
%\break
\alternative {
{
s1 | % m36
s1 | % m37
}
{
s1 | % m38
s1 | % m39
}
}
}
lh = {
\global
\clef bass
r4 r2| % m01
c'2_1 bf | % m02
2 | % m03
2 fs | % m04
%\break
f4\fermata r r2 | % m05
\repeat volta 2 {
c4_5 g c'2 | % m06
%\break
b2 bf | % m07
%\break
a2 f4 e | % m08
d2 | % m09
c2 b! | % m10
%\break
a2_1 fs_2| % m11
%\break
f4_3 d c' a | % m12
g1 | % m13
%\break
c4 g b2 | % m14
%\break
bf1 | % m15
a2 f4 e | % m16
%\break
d2 | % m17
g2 g, | % m18
1 | % m19
%\break
g2 e| % m20
c2 | % m21
c4 g c'2| % m22
2 | % m23
%\break
2 b | % m24
a2| %
Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 7:06 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > Maybe this engraved pdf is a better match to the Lilypond source... > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:02 PM Kenneth Wolcott > wrote: > > > > Hi; > > > > I have a piece of music that has forced line breaks that consumes > three pages. > > > > I engraved the piece (without lyrics, which will come later) and it > > looks so... sparse. > > > > So I disabled all the forced line breaks. > > > > Now it consumes less than 3/4 of one page and is a little too dense to > > read on an iPad. > > > > I'd like to fill the first and only page. > > > > How to do this? > > > > I have attached the Lilypond source and my engraved pdf (the original > > is huge as it is a three-page iPhone photo converted to pdf, so I > > won't attach that unless it is requested). > > > > Lilypond 2.22.2 from homebrew, Mac M1, lilypond called without any > > arguments/options. > > > > Thanks, > > Ken Wolcott > > I'm away from my computer for a few weeks, so I can't be specific, but I > use something like page-count = #1 in the /paper block, I think. Sorry I > can't be more specific. All the best, Ralph >
