Re: weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <
ml+s1069038n204846...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> > I hoped it wasn't a font problem.
>
> Me, too.  =)
> Glad it wasn't.
>

Then, again, if it was a font problem, at least we'd know it wasn't LP's
fault and I could better address the issue myself. Sorry XD

- Abraham




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Re: weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Abraham,

> I hoped it wasn't a font problem.

Me, too.  =)
Glad it wasn't.

> Yikes! That's an undesirable set of overrides. Tolerable, but undesirable. 
> Would be good to get to the bottom of what's really causing the extra space.

+1

Thanks,
Kieren.


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Re: weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:12 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <
ml+s1069038n204842...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> No.
>
> > Does this happen when you use Emmentaler for the music font?
>
> Yes. (Aside: Switching back to it to test that reminded me how much I love
> Cadence!)
>

Thanks! I hoped it wasn't a font problem.


> > I looked at the internals section and there is the 'extra-spacing-width
> property that is set to '(-0.2 . 0) by default. Not sure if setting that to
> '(0 . 0) would change it, but maybe. Not sure when it changed, exactly, but
> some time between when the 'parent-alignment-... properties were added and
> now.
>
> Adding
>
> \override AccidentalPlacement.right-padding = #0
> \override Accidental.extra-spacing-width = #'(0.3 . 0)
> \override Accidental.extra-offset = #'(-0.05 . 0)
>
> to my score seems to bring it closer to what I would expect to be "default
> spacing". I'm uncomfortable that I don't know what the real root problem
> is… but at least I can get on with engraving!
>

Yikes! That's an undesirable set of overrides. Tolerable, but undesirable.
Would be good to get to the bottom of what's really causing the extra space.

Best,
Abraham




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Re: weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Abraham,

> Is there something in another staff that is causing the offset?

No.

> Does this happen when you use Emmentaler for the music font?

Yes. (Aside: Switching back to it to test that reminded me how much I love 
Cadence!)

> I looked at the internals section and there is the 'extra-spacing-width 
> property that is set to '(-0.2 . 0) by default. Not sure if setting that to 
> '(0 . 0) would change it, but maybe. Not sure when it changed, exactly, but 
> some time between when the 'parent-alignment-... properties were added and 
> now.

Adding

\override AccidentalPlacement.right-padding = #0
\override Accidental.extra-spacing-width = #'(0.3 . 0)
\override Accidental.extra-offset = #'(-0.05 . 0)

to my score seems to bring it closer to what I would expect to be "default 
spacing". I'm uncomfortable that I don't know what the real root problem is… 
but at least I can get on with engraving!

Thanks,
Kieren.


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Re: weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

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Hi, Kieren!

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <
ml+s1069038n204835...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I've gone back to update an old score, and I'm finding that all the
> accidentals seem to have extra padding on the left-hand side, despite the
> fact that I can't seem to find any such tweak/override in the chain of
> files. Here is the default Lilypond output of a measure:
> and here's what I'm seeing in my score:
>
> Both were compiled using the same binary (2.19.64) on Mac OS X — the first
> image is from a clean file (all code "local", no \includes), the second
> from my actual score file (containing a large number of \includes,
> stylesheets, etc.).
>
> 1. What reason(s) might this be happening *other* than an explicit
> tweak/override somewhere in the file-chain?
>
> 2. Is there a way of debugging which would identify the culprit (which I
> can't seem to find)? For example, can I print out the list of Accidental
> properties next to each accidental, like you can with spacing properties?
>

Here's a guess, the only other obvious thing I can think of. Is there
something in another staff that is causing the offset? Does this happen
when you use Emmentaler for the music font?

I looked at the internals section and there is the 'extra-spacing-width
property that is set to '(-0.2 . 0) by default. Not sure if setting that to
'(0 . 0) would change it, but maybe. Not sure when it changed, exactly, but
some time between when the 'parent-alignment-... properties were added and
now.

HTH,
Abraham




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weird Accidental spacing/padding issue

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hello all,

I've gone back to update an old score, and I'm finding that all the accidentals 
seem to have extra padding on the left-hand side, despite the fact that I can't 
seem to find any such tweak/override in the chain of files. Here is the default 
Lilypond output of a measure:

and here's what I'm seeing in my score:


Both were compiled using the same binary (2.19.64) on Mac OS X — the first 
image is from a clean file (all code "local", no \includes), the second from my 
actual score file (containing a large number of \includes, stylesheets, etc.).

1. What reason(s) might this be happening *other* than an explicit 
tweak/override somewhere in the file-chain?

2. Is there a way of debugging which would identify the culprit (which I can't 
seem to find)? For example, can I print out the list of Accidental properties 
next to each accidental, like you can with spacing properties?

Thanks for any help/pointers/guesses!
Kieren.


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