Interesting z/VM 6.1
I just saw this on the VM list. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=an appname=iSourcesupplier=877letternum=ENUSZA09-0015opencm_mmc=5350-_ -n-_-vrm_newsletter-_-10576_121006cmibm_em=dm:0:10667996 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Sending / Getting Reader Spool files to / from z/linux guest
Are you looking for the CP TRANSFER command? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyler Koyl Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:05 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Sending / Getting Reader Spool files to / from z/linux guest I am looking at somehow having a guests RDR spool files be sent or gotten to linux side of the guest. not sure if that can be done from the linux guest itself or from a CMS service machine putting the files via FTP/ NFS etc. Anybody gone down this path and have any suggestions? TK Tyler Koyl Management Analyst Regina Phone: 306/569-6122 | Fax: 306/569-4382 Mailto:tyler.k...@viterra.ca www.viterra.ca (Embedded image moved to file: pic10904.gif) This e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and do not copy, use or disclose it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?
If you believe the rumors SUN will soon be IBM. And Z/SOLARIS will be supported. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Joe O'Brien Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:02 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful? Amazingly,a consistent story. The same has happened here as we are going from an IBM environment to a SUN Solaris and/or Windows environment to run our ERP system(s). Dodds, Jim wrote: Good luck with that. My management here too is going to throw out the mainframe. We (IT) were establishing working relationships with Marist, IBM, and the ERP vendor to get our new university ERP system to run under z/Linux but upper management caught wind of it and made us stop. Marist I assume is going on with the project to move their university ERP system (which will be the same as ours) to z/Linux. So now we are planning on spending close to $200,000 on Dell hardware and Microsoft server software. This doesn't include the licenses for the Oracle software. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful? It is very true, however, that you can run several LPARs with Linux/390 on them. Also, MVS is available for free nowadays, as well as several other major components that run on the pre-Z 360-derivatives. So although you won't be able to teach your kids VM you CAN show them what IBM big iron can do. Have you approached anybody with the IBM academic initiatives program? Both Marist and Colorado have Z systems which they will provide accounts on for students. My university (Northern Illinois University) is getting this from Marist, as our administration have their heads on backwards. Some Microsoft evangelist has convinced a bunch of our administrators that our ESA/390s are dinosaurs that need to be surplussed and replaced by a cluster of x86 boxen running peoplesoft on windows server. It's complete garbage and it means they're going to tell IBM (who was going to give us a brand new z10 bc next year) to get stuffed. Does anybody know where I could point out to my administration what a HUGE mistake they are making? Our curriculum has been based around the IBM mainframe for half a century! I can only imagine having been forced to learn x86 assembler... *shudder*. When did people forget that IBM Intel?!?! Erik Johnson On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: Andrew Wiley wrote: Andrew, Unless you already have a release of VM on this hardware, you can't get a VM that will run on this hardware anymore. So you are pretty much out of luck. IBM does have an academic initiative which provides incentives for higher education on System z: Well, this is a high school computer science course, so we don't have much budget and, quite frankly, we aren't a priority in... anything. However, the machine I'm investigating is being offered by a local business that's decommissioning it, and I can ask if they plan to include VM. Assuming they do, could the machine be useful? It wouldn't be used under high load; it would be hosting student projects. It's 31-bit, so recent SLES and RHEL don't run on it because those are 64-bit. Debian probably does, and Slack might. This might be a time when, depending on just what you want, a nice HP DC5850[1] (desktop PC) might win out. They're 64-bit (we have AMD processors in ours), they support 8 Gbytes of RAM, run the latest Fedora and openSUSE, and you can use virtualisation. It's not a mainframe by any means, but finding someone who knows the software is pretty simple (no VM gurus needed), and it's a setup the kids can replicate at home if they wish (and can afford a newish pc). If you particularly want to run Linux/390, that's possible too. Just install Hercules - it's probably in the software repo. 1 I mention this just because I have personal knowledge of them. Probably, other vendors have something equivalent. One of the things I like about these is the diagnostics DVD. It boots Linux, so I figured the chances of running recent Linux is probably feasible. It is, unlike the DC7700 when new. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit
Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?
My two cents. I worked for two companies that bought the bs about ERP and WINDOZE replacing the mainframe.. Company one declared bankrupcy and went out of buisness after spending 50 million dollars (some $35 mil over budget) on the project. Company number two hit the budget ($20 mil) and now about five years later rumor has it they are seriously looking at a z/10 and z/LINUX to run the ERP software.. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Dodds, Jim Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:21 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful? It's just a PC we can buy another, you know PCs are cheap. Hell they are running Windows we can just hire college grads that will save us a bundle of money on staff. As for reliability everyone else is buying one do you think that if it didn't work they would buy it says the pointy haired boss. Those are all good points Henry, and we have informed management but they think this is the best way to go. What else can I say, the vendor tells them that 100s to 1000s of universities that use their product use windows servers and they work beautifully. Hell as part of the deal the vendor will set it up for you and they will document for your staff when we turn it over to them. Of course if problems come up that your staff cant resolve, they can provide service to resolve for you of course for a price tag. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Henry E Schaffer Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:03 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful? Dodds, Jim wrote: ... So now we are planning on spending close to $200,000 on Dell hardware and Microsoft server software. ... Has any looked at reliability? Some hardware/sofware combinations are boringly reliable, some not so. Does anyone care? --henry schaffer -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Windows an linux under z/VM
Look at http://www.mantissa.com/ and follow their development of z/Vos It is windoze stuff on Z. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:10 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows an linux under z/VM Could Xen run on z/Linux? I don't see why not. But to be completely honest, a mainframe is a strange place to run Windows. I mean... you could go and buy an 8086 and run Andy Tananbaum's Minix 3, and that would make a LOT more sense to me, at least you can learn something about operating systems that way. Perhaps with mainframe I/O capabilities you'd get Windows to stop thrashing long enough to get some work done? But no, because the virtualization will chew up enough resources that you won't see any gains. Still, look into Xen if you really want to do this. http://www.xen.org Erik Johnson On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Richard J Moore richardj_mo...@uk.ibm.com wrote: Not a chance unless: 1) there's a Z port of WIndows, which I doubt 2) there's an Intel emulator that runs under Z. Not heard of one. Richard - - Richard J Moore - FIET, FBCS, CEng, CITP Senior Certified IT Specialist IBM z/VM CP Development MOBEX: 37264807; Mobile (+44) (0)7739-875237 Office: (+44) (0)1962-817072 From: Hugo Luis Vitelli vitel...@ar.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 23/03/2009 19:16 Subject: Windows an linux under z/VM Hi guys .. I'm going to ask a question half crazy but I want to know if you can virtualize Windows on a Linux on z / VM and if any place any evidence of this. Thanks Hugo Luis Vitelli Mainframe Server Management System Support - Solutions Delivery IBM Global Services SSA Hipolito Yrigoyen 2149 ? CP (B1640HFQ) Modulo ?A? - Martinez ? Pcia Bs. As. - Argentina Mail.: vitel...@ar.ibm.com Phone.: 54 11 4898-4898 int. 3485 Fax 54 11 4898-4700 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
FW: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 22, 2009
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:39 AM To: ib...@listserv.uark.edu Subject: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 22, 2009 The first quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, January 22, 2009 . -- Meeting Location: *** NEW MEETING LOCATION *** This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in the 100-M3 Conference Room, just off the cafeteria. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: We would like to request a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that we may plan appropriately for arranging the facilities, and for refreshments and lunch, should one of the vendors wish to provide them. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:cav...@comcast.netcav...@comcast.net with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Meeting Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM 5.4 Performance Update This presentation covers new developments in the z/VM performance and capacity area. Included are discussions of the performance and capacity characteristics of z/VM 5.4 and other recent z/VM releases, the z10 processor, and performance-related service. The speaker will be Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMz/VM Performance Case Studies In this session, the speaker will present some real-life z/VM performance problems and illustrate the use of the z/VM Performance Toolkit and other methods to sift through thousands of available performance metrics to solve performance problems. The speaker will be Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 1:45 PM Linux on z Update The speaker will present a brief update of recent developments in the Linux under z/VM area. The speaker will be Khaylen Kingsley of the IBM Corporation. 2:00 PM Velocity Software: Major Product Announcement Velocity Software Announces: An exciting new product focused on Linux and z/VM operations. The presentation will include a live demonstration of the new product via the internet, as far as network connectivity allows. The speaker will be Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 3:15 PM Coffee Break and Prize Drawing 3:30 PM Linux and z/VM Performance Configuration Guidelines Managing performance and capacity planning is taken for granted on mainframes. But managing zLinux running on z/VM has a new set of challenges. Many of the challenges are based on lack of education, or even proper research. This presentation was created to assist new installations (and many old ones) by providing a set of best practices, and the reasons for those best practices. The speaker will be Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. -- Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers to this meeting. -- Please check the WEB site for Map and Directions: http://cavmen.home.comcast.net In addition, you will also find extensive information available on dining and lodging in the Hewitt Associates area. Additional information about the CAVMEN group, and other VM related items of interest are available on our web site. There is no charge for admission to meetings. Meeting attendance is open to anyone, and advance registration is not required. I look forward to seeing all of you at the meeting. ___ Mark M. Suchecki - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CAVMEN Coordinator Voice: (847) 518-0058 FAX:(847) 518-0083 E-Mail: cav...@comcast.net Web:http://cavmen.home.comcast.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
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Right .. the brain is faster than the fingers.. HHO ? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Huegel, Thomas wrote: Are the rep's initials HOO? as in H2O... That's HOH -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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True, but mine is how you might speak it. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:59 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Huegel, Thomas wrote: Right .. the brain is faster than the fingers.. HHO ? My configuration reflects the structure of the molecule. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Huegel, Thomas wrote: Are the rep's initials HOO? as in H2O... That's HOH -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Are the rep's initials HOO? as in H2O... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Z10 , z/VM and z/OS
YES -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ceruti, Gerard G Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Z10 , z/VM and z/OS Hi all If I have a z10 LPAR running z/VM on IFl's only and I want to start a z/OS system to run DB2 , do a need a General purpose CP ?. Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you _ Standard Bank email Disclaimer and confidentiality note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the content clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and its subsidiaries. It is confidential, private and intended for only the addressee. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail immediately. Do not disclose or use it in any way. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of Standard Bank Group. Standard Bank Group accepts no liability for any loss or damages howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. Standard Bank Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group visit our website http://www.standardbank.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/VM CP commands (LOGON)?
Also, just a little tip.. You might want to either SET OBSERVER .. in the ztrash01 profile exec or in the directory entry for ztrash01. That way you can see the LINUX IPL console messages even though it is comming up disconnected. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pieter Harder Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:18 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM CP commands (LOGON)? To cause the IPL of guest ztrash01 at LOGON, I believe I can put that in the PROFILE EXEC (e.g. IPL xxx) at the end, but how (if at all) can I cause the guest to be logged on (opposite of FORCE) while being logged on to z/VM as operator? XAUTOLOG guestname Pieter Harder Brabant Water N.V. Postbus 1068 5200 BC 's-Hertogenbosch http://www.brabantwater.nl Handelsregister: 16005077 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
I'm the VM guy not the LINUX guy, so be gentle. I am trying to use VDISK for swap space for the first time and it doesn't seem to work. These are the messages I get. From SWAPGEN FBA SWAP DISK DEFINED AT VIRTUAL ADDRESS 151 (12498 4K PAGES OF SWAP SPACE) During the LINUX boot: ACTIVATING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED CHECKING ROOT FILE SYSTEM...FSCK 1.38 (30-JUN-2005)[/SBIN/FSCK.EXT3 (1) -- When LINUX finishes there is no active swap disk. Once LINUX is booted I can do swapon -a and it starts up. Any ideas? Thanks Tom -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
/dev/dasdb swapswapsw 0 0 /dev/dasda1 /ext3 acl,user_xattr1 1 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto0 0 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:30 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? What does fstab look like? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/31/08 10:23 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm the VM guy not the LINUX guy, so be gentle. I am trying to use VDISK for swap space for the first time and it doesn't seem to work. These are the messages I get. From SWAPGEN FBA SWAP DISK DEFINED AT VIRTUAL ADDRESS 151 (12498 4K PAGES OF SWAP SPACE) During the LINUX boot: ACTIVATING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED CHECKING ROOT FILE SYSTEM...FSCK 1.38 (30-JUN-2005)[/SBIN/FSCK.EXT3 (1) -- When LINUX finishes there is no active swap disk. Once LINUX is booted I can do swapon -a and it starts up. Any ideas? Thanks Tom -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
Tried changing to /dev/dasdb1 ... Still getting these messages.. FBA SWAP DISK DEFINED AT VIRTUAL ADDRESS 151 (12498 4K PAGES OF SWAP SPACE) ACTIVATING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED ACTIVATING REMAINING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED and no swap space gets defined. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:02 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: /dev/dasdb swapswapsw 0 0 /dev/dasda1 /ext3 acl,user_xattr1 1 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto0 0 If you didn't run SWAPGEN in FBA mode, you want to swap to /dev/dasdb1. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
Yes.. 0.0.0151(FBA ) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb : active at blocksize: 512, 10 blocks, 48 MB -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:08 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? Does the swap disk appear as /dev/dasdb? (cat /proc/dasd/devices) On 7/31/08 10:48 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /dev/dasdb swapswapsw 0 0 /dev/dasda1 /ext3 acl,user_xattr1 1 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto0 0 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:30 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? What does fstab look like? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/31/08 10:23 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm the VM guy not the LINUX guy, so be gentle. I am trying to use VDISK for swap space for the first time and it doesn't seem to work. These are the messages I get. From SWAPGEN FBA SWAP DISK DEFINED AT VIRTUAL ADDRESS 151 (12498 4K PAGES OF SWAP SPACE) During the LINUX boot: ACTIVATING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED CHECKING ROOT FILE SYSTEM...FSCK 1.38 (30-JUN-2005)[/SBIN/FSCK.EXT3 (1) -- When LINUX finishes there is no active swap disk. Once LINUX is booted I can do swapon -a and it starts up. Any ideas? Thanks Tom -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
I sort of understand what you are saying here, but I had to forward it to our LINUX guy and haven't heard back from him.. Has SWAPGEN ben updated recently? .. the version I have was from about MARCH of this year. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:24 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? From one of my systems, here's the contents of /proc/dasd/devices: iwydzl03:/home/rpn01 # cat /proc/dasd/devices 0.0.0391(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda : active at blocksize: 4096, 22500 blocks, 87 MB 0.0.0392(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb : active at blocksize: 4096, 1802880 blocks, 7042 MB 0.0.0393(ECKD) at ( 94: 8) is dasdc : active at blocksize: 4096, 1802880 blocks, 7042 MB 0.0.0394(ECKD) at ( 94:12) is dasdd : active at blocksize: 4096, 1802880 blocks, 7042 MB 0.0.0395(ECKD) at ( 94:16) is dasde : active at blocksize: 4096, 5896620 blocks, 23033 MB 0.0.0396(ECKD) at ( 94:20) is dasdf : active at blocksize: 4096, 5896620 blocks, 23033 MB 0.0.0397(ECKD) at ( 94:24) is dasdg : active at blocksize: 4096, 5896620 blocks, 23033 MB 0.0.0398(ECKD) at ( 94:28) is dasdh : active at blocksize: 4096, 5896620 blocks, 23033 MB 0.0.0399(ECKD) at ( 94:32) is dasdi : active at blocksize: 4096, 5896620 blocks, 23033 MB 0.0.039a(ECKD) at ( 94:36) is dasdj : active at blocksize: 4096, 144 blocks, 5625 MB 0.0.07ff(FBA ) at ( 94:40) is dasdk : active at blocksize: 512, 2097152 blocks, 1024 MB iwydzl03:/home/rpn01 # The last entry (0.0.7ff) ends up being /dev/dasdk. Using udev, entries for each disk are made in the path /dev/disk/by-path directory such as follows: iwydzl03:/dev/disk/by-path # ls . ccw-0.0.0395ccw-0.0.0396ccw-0.0.0397ccw-0.0.0398 ccw-0.0.0399ccw-0.0.039a ccw-0.0.07ff .. ccw-0.0.0395p1 ccw-0.0.0396p1 ccw-0.0.0397p1 ccw-0.0.0398p1 ccw-0.0.0399p1 ccw-0.0.039a1 ccw-0.0.07ff1 iwydzl03:/dev/disk/by-path # (Sorry for the formatting, or lack thereof) The entry I'm interested in for swap is ccw-0.0.07ff1 (the first partition of ccw device 07ff). This is used in fstab, as so: /dev/vg_system/lv_var /var reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.07ff1 swapswapdefaults,pri=100 0 0 /dev/vg_system/lv_swap swap swap defaults,pri=50 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 This allows me to access the swap without having to know what /dev/dasd? Device it is, or be worried about it changing positions in the list. Swapgen, used in a CMS profile which starts the boot process, makes sure that the swap space is formatted. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/31/08 11:51 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried changing to /dev/dasdb1 ... Still getting these messages.. FBA SWAP DISK DEFINED AT VIRTUAL ADDRESS 151 (12498 4K PAGES OF SWAP SPACE) ACTIVATING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED ACTIVATING REMAINING SWAP-DEVICES IN /ETC/FSTAB... [1A..FAILED and no swap space gets defined. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:02 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: /dev/dasdb swapswapsw 0 0 /dev/dasda1 /ext3 acl,user_xattr1 1 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto0 0 If you didn't run SWAPGEN in FBA mode, you want to swap to /dev/dasdb1. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
Yes I have dasd_fba_mod loaded, I don't know about dasd_diag_mod.. Here are some more messages... swapon -a Unable to find swap-space signature swapon: /dev/dasdb1: Invalid argument linmstr:~ # Jul 31 15:54:23 linmstr kernel: Unable to find swap-space signature swapon /dev/dasdb swapon /dev/dasdb Adding 49992k swap on /dev/dasdb. Priority:-1 extents:1 Jul 31 15:55:19 linmstr kernel: Adding 49992k swap on /dev/dasdb. Priority:-1 extents:1 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:26 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? Do you have dasd_fba_mod loaded? How about dasd_diag_mod ? Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ???
Thanks Adam.. That makes total sense. BTW as I was messing around I see I do have dasd_diag_mod, so I guess I could use the 'perfered' DIAG format in SWAPGEN and then swap to dasdb1 .. This LINUX stuff is going to make the rest of my hair turn grey.. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:30 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VDISK-SWAP-SWAPGEN ??? On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: Yes I have dasd_fba_mod loaded, I don't know about dasd_diag_mod.. Here are some more messages... swapon -a Unable to find swap-space signature swapon: /dev/dasdb1: Invalid argument linmstr:~ # Jul 31 15:54:23 linmstr kernel: Unable to find swap- space signature swapon /dev/dasdb swapon /dev/dasdb Adding 49992k swap on /dev/dasdb. Priority:-1 extents:1 Jul 31 15:55:19 linmstr kernel: Adding 49992k swap on /dev/dasdb. Priority:-1 extents:1 Hmmm, OK. So the swapspace signature IS on /dev/dasdb, and it swapped on OK. So I think what's going on is that, for some reason, it's initially trying to swap on before dasd_fba_mod is loaded. So you probably need to build the ramdisk again with dasd_fba_mod in it, or you can just do a late-in-the-boot-process swapon -a once the device driver is loaded. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: mixing IFLs and GPs in an LPAR
How about a new name? ez/VM 1.1 ? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:18 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: mixing IFLs and GPs in an LPAR On Friday, 06/20/2008 at 11:28 EDT, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, My guess is that since this currently isn't available in z/VM 5.3, Steve was using 5.4 or 6.0 instead of stating a future version of z/VM. I know IBM is loath to announce product versions until at the earliest the preview announcement, and do remember to pain caused when the pseudo-announced DB2 V4.2 was re-branded as DB2 V5.1. Sorry - I forgot my smiley. :-) I understand that people like to name new releases of software. Will IBM re-version? If they do, does that mean it has something really really cool, or just the usual bright and shiny objects? It's like an internal contest with one's self. But for those new to the party, references like that can be confusing. What? I didn't see any mention of that! Let me waste time looking for it It could be a PTF for an existing release or a new release. Or a new version. If a new version, will it have new pricing? Which will it be??? Hmmm Bwahahahah! (Get thee behind me, Chuckie!) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vexxing Rexx
Here is what I might do. Go to the IBM VM download page and download the 'TABULATE' pipe stage. Now your pipe looks something like this: 'pipe cms listfile * * k (date noh | tabulate by 108 sum 40-44 | console' This will give you the report for all of your linux's .. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vexxing Rexx Ok, first off, I know it's spelled vexing. But that doesn't look as nice. :) I'm having fun with rexx today. First, I'll tell you the problem I'm trying to solve, in case theres a better way, then I'll tell you the problem I'm having in my rexx exec. Problem: I have 50 some linuxes all sending their logs to vmsysu:conlog:*linuxname. *As it gets fuller, I'd like to know which linux is spewing the most log. Right now I do a dirlist and go in to each one looking for who has the most records. I'd like to be able to total it up. Maybe even (gasp) write a report. So I start with an itty bitty rexx exec. I'm just going to look at linux1 and try to total it. With apologies to Kris for my atrocious rexx coding, here it is: totrec = 0 SET FILESP CONLOG ACCESS .LINUX1 K 'pipe (endchar ?)', 'CMS FLIST * * K (NOCLEAR | STEM SFSREC.'; Do i = 1 to sfsrec.0 parse var SFSREC.i FNAME FTYPE FMODE FRECL FLEN FREC FBLK FDT FTM totrec = totrec + FREC End say 'LINUX1 Total Records: ' totrec RELEASE K Exit; It seemed pretty simple to me. Of course it didn't work. So I tried some PIPE commands in CMS. PIPE CMS LISTF * * A | file list a works. Creates the file named FILE LIST A However, PIPE CMS FLIST * * A | file list a doesn't work. Doesn't put it in the file, but does display it on my screen. Normally, I'd just go with the output of listf. However, it doesn't have size info. Any suggestions? Does FLIST not work in Pipes? How would I know that? (Looked thru the rexx manual, pipes manual, cms cmds manual.) Thanks as always! Mary Anne -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vexxing Rexx
Oops should be: 'pipe cms listfile * * k (date noh | tabulate by 1-8 sum 40-44 | console' -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vexxing Rexx Ok, first off, I know it's spelled vexing. But that doesn't look as nice. :) I'm having fun with rexx today. First, I'll tell you the problem I'm trying to solve, in case theres a better way, then I'll tell you the problem I'm having in my rexx exec. Problem: I have 50 some linuxes all sending their logs to vmsysu:conlog:*linuxname. *As it gets fuller, I'd like to know which linux is spewing the most log. Right now I do a dirlist and go in to each one looking for who has the most records. I'd like to be able to total it up. Maybe even (gasp) write a report. So I start with an itty bitty rexx exec. I'm just going to look at linux1 and try to total it. With apologies to Kris for my atrocious rexx coding, here it is: totrec = 0 SET FILESP CONLOG ACCESS .LINUX1 K 'pipe (endchar ?)', 'CMS FLIST * * K (NOCLEAR | STEM SFSREC.'; Do i = 1 to sfsrec.0 parse var SFSREC.i FNAME FTYPE FMODE FRECL FLEN FREC FBLK FDT FTM totrec = totrec + FREC End say 'LINUX1 Total Records: ' totrec RELEASE K Exit; It seemed pretty simple to me. Of course it didn't work. So I tried some PIPE commands in CMS. PIPE CMS LISTF * * A | file list a works. Creates the file named FILE LIST A However, PIPE CMS FLIST * * A | file list a doesn't work. Doesn't put it in the file, but does display it on my screen. Normally, I'd just go with the output of listf. However, it doesn't have size info. Any suggestions? Does FLIST not work in Pipes? How would I know that? (Looked thru the rexx manual, pipes manual, cms cmds manual.) Thanks as always! Mary Anne -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vexxing Rexx
Too bad they don't let you download tools, especially from IBM. I don't know what I would do if I couldn't get stuff from there. Just a little FYI .. you can eliminate the 'SET CMSTYPE' commands by putting your ACCESS/RELEASE commands in a pipe. 'PIPE CMS ACCESS .'usernm' K' ... 'PIPE CMS RELEASE K' this way you don't get the access/release messages cluttering your screen. Myabe put a CLRSCRN command at the beginning to clear the screen before the report starts. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Vexxing Rexx Hi Tom. That looks to be just what I need, unfortunately, I can't download things here. As an update though, here's what the final product looks like: /* rexx */ 'SET FILESP CONLOG' 'PIPE ' MALINUX CTRL A ' | sort | STEM rec.' Do i = 1 to rec.0 parse var rec.i vmname usernm ipaddr TOTBLK = 0 'SET CMSTYPE HT' 'ACCESS .'usernm' K' 'CMS LISTFILE * * K (alloc noheader | STEM sfsrec.' Do j = 1 to sfsrec.0 parse var SFSREC.j FNAME FTYPE FMODE FRECL FLEN FREC FBLK TOTBLK = TOTBLK + FBLK End SET CMSTYPE RT' say usernm ' Total Blocks: ' TOTBLK End 'RELEASE K' Exit; MALINUX CTRL file looks like: VMLPAR LINUX1 9.1.1.1 VMLPAR LINUX2 9.1.1.2 etc. Note that this does not work with Address Command. :( Thanks everyone. It's very nice to have rexx success. MA On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops should be: 'pipe cms listfile * * k (date noh | tabulate by 1-8 sum 40-44 | console' -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vexxing Rexx Ok, first off, I know it's spelled vexing. But that doesn't look as nice. :) I'm having fun with rexx today. First, I'll tell you the problem I'm trying to solve, in case theres a better way, then I'll tell you the problem I'm having in my rexx exec. Problem: I have 50 some linuxes all sending their logs to vmsysu:conlog:*linuxname. *As it gets fuller, I'd like to know which linux is spewing the most log. Right now I do a dirlist and go in to each one looking for who has the most records. I'd like to be able to total it up. Maybe even (gasp) write a report. So I start with an itty bitty rexx exec. I'm just going to look at linux1 and try to total it. With apologies to Kris for my atrocious rexx coding, here it is: totrec = 0 SET FILESP CONLOG ACCESS .LINUX1 K 'pipe (endchar ?)', 'CMS FLIST * * K (NOCLEAR | STEM SFSREC.'; Do i = 1 to sfsrec.0 parse var SFSREC.i FNAME FTYPE FMODE FRECL FLEN FREC FBLK FDT FTM totrec = totrec + FREC End say 'LINUX1 Total Records: ' totrec RELEASE K Exit; It seemed pretty simple to me. Of course it didn't work. So I tried some PIPE commands in CMS. PIPE CMS LISTF * * A | file list a works. Creates the file named FILE LIST A However, PIPE CMS FLIST * * A | file list a doesn't work. Doesn't put it in the file, but does display it on my screen. Normally, I'd just go with the output of listf. However, it doesn't have size info. Any suggestions? Does FLIST not work in Pipes? How would I know that? (Looked thru the rexx manual, pipes manual, cms cmds manual.) Thanks as always! Mary Anne -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Software for managing Linux images
Here's one. Provisioning Expert for Linux on zSeries - Version 1.4 from Mainstar IBM also has one, I can't remember the name. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Bulbeck Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Software for managing Linux images Hi Everybody, After being away from Linux on z/VM for a couple of years, our company is going to look at implementing this once again! The first question that I have is, what sort of products are available for managing the Linux images? This should include things like cloning new images, applying patches, upgrading software etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug Doug Bulbeck Technical Specialist Celero Solutions -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:13 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE Rob van der Heij wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:20 AM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I created a self-signed certificate for example.com, it would not be to provide my identity to the public at large, but for use within a small group. Not everyone needs _that_ level of security. Sure, context. If you sit in the broom closet and just show your So far as I can tell, Thomas' entire network is in a broom cupboard. That is my argument with the auditor. There is no 3270 access to my 'Z' outside of the broom closet. You can point your browser to the 'Z' all day I don't care there are no web server to answer your call. All of the web services are handled on a different platform. I don't even think I need the LINUX SSLSERV since all I have is a 3270 network. To appease the audit I'll do it, but I just don't seem to get anything other than a self-signed certificate to store on the LINUX database. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
Not even enabled. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pieter Harder Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:02 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE You can point your browser to the 'Z' all day I don't care there are no web server to answer your call. How about the web server on your HMC? I hope that is protected somehow Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 Brabant Water N.V. Postbus 1068 5200 BC 's-Hertogenbosch http://www.brabantwater.nl Handelsregister: 16005077 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
Rob, You make perfect sense and I agree when a web server is involved. I have only TN3270 traffic and realy don't see the need especially since all TN3270's are on the private LAN or VPN... It is not my job to argue with these guys I just do the work ... But I did convince him that the 3278 coax attached system console need not be encrypted. Tom -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:36 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:36 AM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huegel, Thomas wrote: Well, yes I can (did) make a SELF-SIGNED certificate and it works fine. But my auditor doesn't like it. Why? Isn't it like when the cops pull you over and you show them a hand-written piece of paper that says Driver's License and when they question it, you point at your own signature at the bottom. Nor do we think the customer card of the local pizza place is a valid identification. Back then we had a big scene when someone managed to get through airport security with a children's passport of a big amusement park... When you generate your own master certificate, the private parts of that may not be as safely protected as the professional CA's do. If you now told your users to trust you (that is, install your certificate into their browser) then if someone steals your private keys, they can sign whatever they like and all your users will trust it. If they use that to set up a mock-up copy of a banking site, your users will not notice that is a fake. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
I am talking the latter. z/VM's TN3270 server protected by z/VM's SSLSERV z/LINUX. Some auditor thinks I need to encrypt my TN3270 sessions. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:01 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE On Tuesday, 05/20/2008 at 05:09 EDT, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I get a SL CERTIFICATE that will work on my z/LINUX for TN3270 traffic? Are you talking about TN3270 on a Linux telnet server? Or are you talking about z/VM's TN3270 server protected by z/VM's SSL server? Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
Well, yes I can (did) make a SELF-SIGNED certificate and it works fine. But my auditor doesn't like it. This is what happens when I tried to store the one from VeriSign. DTCSSL201E Algorithm error--GSKKM error 146. and from Thawte.. DTCSSL2417E The content of file TSTTHAWT X509CERT D cannot be used or is DTCSSL2417E corrupt. Maybe SSLSERV somehow got hosed. I am having them re-boot it tonight. SSLADMIN QUERY CERT * Shows the certs that came with SSLSERV (z/VM 5.3) plus the Self-Signed one I created. I'll see what happens after the re-boot. Oh well such is life. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:36 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE On Wednesday, 05/21/2008 at 09:03 EDT, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am talking the latter. z/VM's TN3270 server protected by z/VM's SSLSERV z/LINUX. Some auditor thinks I need to encrypt my TN3270 sessions. If your customer has a security policy that says No passwords in cleartext on the network, or the moral equivalent, then the auditor is correct. We have customers getting their certs from Thawte and Verisign. You mention that you have errors, but you don't elaborate on the process you used and the errors you got. Getting your cert a non-standard source (including self-signed) inevitably creates a problem with the client. If it is self-signed, then all clients must have the cert also installed on their own workstation. If it is signed by a non-standard source (e.g. local CA), then the non-standard CA cert must be installed on each workstation. Use the SSLADMIN command to display the certificate database and you will see what CA certs are in there. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SSL CERTIFICATE
Where can I get a SL CERTIFICATE that will work on my z/LINUX for TN3270 traffic? I have tried a couple of vendors but have not been able to install their CERTIFICATES due to errors. Most of these guys have 'heard of LINUX' but I haven't found one that knows what 'Z' is. Can anyone recomend a vendor or two... Not VERISIGN or THAWTE .. I have been unsucessful with both of them. Thanks
Re: SSL CERTIFICATE
I currently don't have any web services that run on the mainframe. All my 3270 traffic ends up either in CICS or CMS.. I can't imagine NOT having TN3270 sessions.. That would put us out of buisness. The only function of this z/LINUX is to do SSL/TSL... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daryl Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:43 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSL CERTIFICATE Are you sure you really want telnet on your zLinux environment and not the encrypted and highly recommended SSH ? We have been working towards SSL for our 3270 traffic, but we are not doing this on zLinux where we do not intend to even open up the telnet port. Just looking for clarification, because we have installed Thawte certs for IHS and WebSphere, as well as Tomcat. Daryl On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I get a SL CERTIFICATE that will work on my z/LINUX for TN3270 traffic? I have tried a couple of vendors but have not been able to install their CERTIFICATES due to errors. Most of these guys have 'heard of LINUX' but I haven't found one that knows what 'Z' is. Can anyone recomend a vendor or two... Not VERISIGN or THAWTE .. I have been unsucessful with both of them. Thanks -- Daryl R. Hoffman System Administrator Administrative Information Systems The Pennsylvania State University Cell/Home: 814-441-9448 Work: 814-863-3829 Website: http://www.personal.psu.edu/drh4 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Any Communication Controller for Linux users out there?
Not IBM's CCL a product from TPS which is a SNA over IP 3270 thingy. It works as advertised... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:45 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Any Communication Controller for Linux users out there? Is anyone running CCL on their SLES systems? If so, is it working well for you? Thanks, Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Weird network problem
We found this description of this problem. http://www.excentral.org/archives/2005/07/12/two-nics-one-subnet-linux-heada ches -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Weird network problem Phil, Is this gateway machine having a dispatching problem? Is it running CCL? Phil Smith III wrote: I visited a customer yesterday, and they mentioned a weird problem: They have a z/Linux guest that's acting as an SNA gateway for some VSE users. So it's dual-homed: a virtual NIC (vNIC) for incoming TCP/IP traffic, and a real OSA for outgoing SNA (to the VSE guest(s) -- not sure what happens there, whether one is a gateway or what). So this all works, BUT every so often -- like a couple of times an hour -- IP traffic to/from the gateway machine starts going over the real OSA. This seems to mean (based on observed behavior) that IP stuff originating FROM that machine works, but external stuff (say, SNMP requests) don't. It also means that their SNA users get dropped *sometimes*. Fooling around on the guest with ping and traceroute using -I proved to my satisfaction that this is what's happening (though of course I'm always happy to be proven wrong). And after a few minutes, it all goes back to normal. route -nNvee and with no operands seems to support that no visible routing changes are occurring. Note that when things are switched, I can't even ping the gateway using the vNIC interface! It feels like something is deciding that the real OSA is better -- faster? shinier? less virtual? -- and deciding to use that, but then for some other reason switches back. But that's a SWAG. Ideas? Output of various commands is below. Oh, one other thing: I've never seen some of the output from Q V OSA below (the INP + 01 stuff). But then, I'm not used to fooling with real OSAs attached to guests. I didn't see anything about this output in the HELP file for QUERY VIRTUAL OSA. Thanks... ...phsiii -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Weird network problem
Not CCL .. The software is from TPS. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Weird network problem Phil, Is this gateway machine having a dispatching problem? Is it running CCL? Phil Smith III wrote: I visited a customer yesterday, and they mentioned a weird problem: They have a z/Linux guest that's acting as an SNA gateway for some VSE users. So it's dual-homed: a virtual NIC (vNIC) for incoming TCP/IP traffic, and a real OSA for outgoing SNA (to the VSE guest(s) -- not sure what happens there, whether one is a gateway or what). So this all works, BUT every so often -- like a couple of times an hour -- IP traffic to/from the gateway machine starts going over the real OSA. This seems to mean (based on observed behavior) that IP stuff originating FROM that machine works, but external stuff (say, SNMP requests) don't. It also means that their SNA users get dropped *sometimes*. Fooling around on the guest with ping and traceroute using -I proved to my satisfaction that this is what's happening (though of course I'm always happy to be proven wrong). And after a few minutes, it all goes back to normal. route -nNvee and with no operands seems to support that no visible routing changes are occurring. Note that when things are switched, I can't even ping the gateway using the vNIC interface! It feels like something is deciding that the real OSA is better -- faster? shinier? less virtual? -- and deciding to use that, but then for some other reason switches back. But that's a SWAG. Ideas? Output of various commands is below. Oh, one other thing: I've never seen some of the output from Q V OSA below (the INP + 01 stuff). But then, I'm not used to fooling with real OSAs attached to guests. I didn't see anything about this output in the HELP file for QUERY VIRTUAL OSA. Thanks... ...phsiii -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
z/LINUX DB/2 pricing?
I am trying to understand how DB/2 is priced. I have a z/890 with 4 CPs and no IFL engine. When I inquired about a license for DB/2 for z/LINUX I got what I thought was a rather bizarre response. I was told I NEED an IFL and a second (for the IFL LPAR) z/VM license and that the DB/2 is a MIPS based license. All I thought I needed was simply a license for z/LINUX DB/2.. Does anyone have any insight as to how this actually works? Thanks -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/LINUX DB/2 pricing?
Thanks Alan, Although the z/solution is indeed a good one it is going to be a super tough job to convince managment not to just go buy another Intel box (we already have a license for that DB/2). There doesn't appear to be any incentive. Time to start schmuzing. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:35 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: z/LINUX DB/2 pricing? On Wednesday, 02/13/2008 at 12:10 EST, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- If you license it on your CPs, you will pay $386 x 100 x 4 = $154,400. If you buy an IFL for $125K, you will pay $22,500 for a new z/VM license (using STG value unit metrics) and $38,600 for DB2 (using SWG metrics), for a total of $186,100. It's cheaper to buy it for your CPs, but not by much. And that's if you're silly enough to pay list price for the IFL. Not too many people do that I'm aware of. The downside of course is the second z/VM LPAR and all that entails in the way of infrastructure and care and feeding. With the current z/VM pricing model, wouldn't the 5th license come cheaper than that? (I forget where the price breaks are positioned.) Thanks for the nudge. The price drops at 4, 7, 10, 13, 17, 21, and 26 processors. Since Tom already reached the first plateau of savings, he only pays $20,250 for the extra z/VM license, not $22.5K. Remember, too, that the number of processors you run z/VM on is calculated on the *enterprise* level, not by CEC (box) or customer number. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM.
I asume by 3 partitions you mean each mod-9 represents 3 mod-3's.. DDR should work just fine. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luis La Torre Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Copying 3390-9 to 3390-3 Linux LVM under z/VM. Am looking for any information or ideas on how to copy 7 3390-9 volumes splitted into 3 partitions per volume into probably 21 3390-3 volumes. Or maybe copy them to tape. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Luis La Torre BAX Global Inc. Irvine, CA 92602 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
FW: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 24, 2008
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 24, 2008 The first quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, January 24, 2008. The Final Agenda is included below. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in the 100-M3 Conference Room, just off the cafeteria. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: We would like to request a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that we may plan appropriately for arranging the facilities, and for refreshments and lunch, should one of the vendors wish to provide them. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Cell Phone Policy: All electronic devices (cell phones, Blackberry's, etc.) if switched on must be kept in silent mode during the meeting. If you need to make or receive a call, you must quietly leave the meeting room to do so. There is a large quiet area outside of the meeting room that is ideal for this. Any intentional or repeat violations of this policy will result in that individual being escorted from the premises and potentially excluded from future meetings. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Final Meeting Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM Performance Update The newest releast of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performance and capacity. This session will describe some of the key performance related changes in the release and how they may apply to your system. Customer workloads on z/VM have continued to grow this decade. The newest release of z/VM was designed to keep you from out growing your z/VM system. The design includes improved scalability in: processor, real memory, networking, and disk I/O. In each of these areas; we'll describe how the system capacity has been increased. The speaker will be Mr. Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMz/VM: If the Sky is the Limit, How High is the Sky? The earlier z/VM Performance Update discussed extending some limits. This session will take a more in depth look at just how large or wide or tall can you grow a z/VM system. The session will also discuss the type of data you can look at to evaluate how close your system is to those limits. As we look at different subsystems (processors, memory, etc.), we will discuss theoretical and practical limits. Included will be a brief look at some of the ways IBM tests these limits. The speaker will be Mr. Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 2:00 PM Linux under z/VM Performance Analysis Case Studies This presentation will show Case studies in measuring Linux under z/VM performance. All examples will use ESALPS as the measurement facility. The speaker will be Mr. Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 3:15 PM Coffee Break and Prize Drawing 3:30 PM Managing Linux under z/VM using ESALPS Managing Linux on a mainframe requires capacity planning, performance analysis, chargeback, and operational support. This presentation presents the technologies employed by Velocity Software's ESALPS. The speaker will be Mr. Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers to this meeting. -- Please check the WEB site for Map and Directions: http://cavmen.home.comcast.net In addition, you will also find extensive information available on dining and lodging in the Hewitt Associates area. Additional information about the CAVMEN group, and other VM related items of interest are available on our web site. There is no charge for admission to
FW: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 24, 2008
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 24, 2008 The first quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, January 24, 2008. The Final Agenda is included below. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in the 100-M3 Conference Room, just off the cafeteria. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: We would like to request a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that we may plan appropriately for arranging the facilities, and for refreshments and lunch, should one of the vendors wish to provide them. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Cell Phone Policy: All electronic devices (cell phones, Blackberry's, etc.) if switched on must be kept in silent mode during the meeting. If you need to make or receive a call, you must quietly leave the meeting room to do so. There is a large quiet area outside of the meeting room that is ideal for this. Any intentional or repeat violations of this policy will result in that individual being escorted from the premises and potentially excluded from future meetings. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Final Meeting Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM Performance Update The newest release of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performance and capacity. This session will describe some of the key performance related changes in the release and how they may apply to your system. Customer workloads on z/VM have continued to grow this decade. The newest release of z/VM was designed to keep you from out growing your z/VM system. The design includes improved scalability in: processor, real memory, networking, and disk I/O. In each of these areas; we'll describe how the system capacity has been increased. The speaker will be Mr. Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMz/VM: If the Sky is the Limit, How High is the Sky? The earlier z/VM Performance Update discussed extending some limits. This session will take a more in depth look at just how large or wide or tall can you grow a z/VM system. The session will also discuss the type of data you can look at to evaluate how close your system is to those limits. As we look at different subsystems (processors, memory, etc.), we will discuss theoretical and practical limits. Included will be a brief look at some of the ways IBM tests these limits. The speaker will be Mr. Bill Bitner of the IBM Corporation. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 2:00 PM Linux under z/VM Performance Analysis Case Studies This presentation will show Case studies in measuring Linux under z/VM performance. All examples will use ESALPS as the measurement facility. The speaker will be Mr. Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 3:15 PM Coffee Break and Prize Drawing 3:30 PM Managing Linux under z/VM using ESALPS Managing Linux on a mainframe requires capacity planning, performance analysis, chargeback, and operational support. This presentation presents the technologies employed by Velocity Software's ESALPS. The speaker will be Mr. Barton Robinson of Velocity Software. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers to this meeting. -- Please check the WEB site for Map and Directions: http://cavmen.home.comcast.net In addition, you will also find extensive information available on dining and lodging in the Hewitt Associates area. Additional information about the CAVMEN group, and other VM related items of interest are available on our web site. There is no charge for admission to
CMM Monitor Data
I am sure this worked back when I was testing, but I don't know how or why. SLES9 and z/VM 5.2 ... In z/LINUX how do I turn on these functions (CMM and MONITOR DATA)so Perf ToolKit and VM Resource Manager can handshake with LINUX? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux community, was Re: Demo of OpenSolaris running on Systemz
I don't to run one LINUX on a z/series, I want to run 1000 z/LINUX on one z/series. Now go do some math .. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:27 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux community, was Re: Demo of OpenSolaris running on Systemz On Nov 29, 2007 4:18 PM, Anton Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you can call your self brain dead if you have not been part of the IBM world for the last 30 years but IBM makes money out of adding a few buttons to the same boxes/software every year and then they sell it back to their own customers. Well I have been a part of the IBM world for 20+ years, and no I don't consider myself brain-dead. I just thought you had a real argument I was missing. So now you want to run Linux on an IBM box ? Yes, I do. The reason why the market is moving to Linux is precisely because of the constant Upgrade fees of IBM/Microsoft. Maybe 1 of the reasons. There are many others. Better OS than Microsoft, more secure than Microsoft. Does a better job, for certain workloads. You want to tell me we are going to get new/better features in Linux, compared to other Operating Systems that have been around for 50 years. You just may, it is being developed by thousands, of individuals. So Yes, I agree with you... Brain dead is one way of putting it in perspective. Mainframes must have arrived. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SIFT/UFT
Looking for some ideas. Basically what I need to do is to send files, usually print files, from VSE to other platforms. We currently use FTP from VSE. But now we need to encrypt everything. I would prefer not to do the encryption in VSE, just too expensive. One thought I had was to PNET the files to RSCS and then UFT them to a zLINUX guest that would do the encryption and FTPout to the other platforms. This has some advantages mainly because it uses RSCS. What do I need to do in the zLINUX machine for it to handle the UFT/UFTD files from RSCS? Thanks __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
UNSCRIBE
UNSCRIBE __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Z/LINUX START-UP ERROR
New LINUX-SSL on Z/VM 5.3 I am getting the following messages. Does anyone have a clue as to what they mean? Where I can look to find help? Thanks *** vmssl started: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:50:58 -0500 *** Master Resource Control: runlevel 3 has been reached DTCSSL015I SSL server has started. z/VM 5.3 DTCSSL100I This software incorporates the RSA algorithm. DTCSSL080I DTCPARMS arguments: NONE DTCSSL102I Not operating in FIPS mode. vmsock: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. vmsock E tcpuserid=TCPIP, maxusers=102 NET: Unregistered protocol family 2 NET: Registered protocol family 2 vmsock - Encountered an unknown errno: 1011 INIT: Switching to runlevel: 0 INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal Terminated __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
First time SSLSERV problem.
I am trying, been trying for two days, to startup SSLSERV for the first time. I think I have everything as per the instructions. This is z/VM 5.1 and SLES 9. I get the following messages. Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions for me. Thanks Checking file systems... fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Checking all file systems. [/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /opt/vmssl/parms] fsck.ext2 -a /dev/dasdc1 fsck.ext2: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/dasdc1 Possibly non-existent or swap device? fsck.ext2 /dev/dasdc1 failed (status 0x8). Run manually! [1A..failedblogd: no message logging because /var file system is not accessible No available keymaps for machine s390x found fsck failed for at least one filesystem (not /). Please repair manually and reboot. __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
LINUX SNA
Good Morning, I am kind of new to this LINUX stuff and I have a rather basic (I hope) question. I have SLES 9 on my z/VM 5.2 system and I am trying to configure an OSA-E port that will connect to a VTAM system (XCA) but I don't seem to be able to find a menu in LINUX (YAST) to configure that device. What am I missing? Thanks Tom Thomas E. Huegel Z-Series Technical Support Kable News Company, Inc (815) 734-5923 __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LINUX SNA
Alan, You are confusing me. My first choice would be to use a VSWITCH, but how can I define it to VTAM (VSE)? I currently use VSWITCH for all of my guest TCP/IP traffic, but VTAM? Can you explain a little more, or point me to a source? VM Connectivity doesn't appear to address this senerio. Thanks Tom -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:15 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LINUX SNA On Friday, 01/05/2007 at 09:43 CST, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning, I am kind of new to this LINUX stuff and I have a rather basic (I hope) question. I have SLES 9 on my z/VM 5.2 system and I am trying to configure an OSA-E port that will connect to a VTAM system (XCA) but I don't seem to be able to find a menu in LINUX (YAST) to configure that device. What am I missing? Communications Server for Linux is the way you can get an SNA driver. YAST only configures your Linux IP connections. For IP, you can't use an OSE chpid with SNA microcode. Use IP passthru or OSD chpids instead, or use the VSWITCH. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LINUX SNA
Thanks Alan, This is making a little more sense now. Wasn't Bisync great, either it worked or it didn't. @#*%! Thanks Tom -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:37 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LINUX SNA On Friday, 01/05/2007 at 10:30 CST, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are confusing me. My first choice would be to use a VSWITCH, but how can I define it to VTAM (VSE)? I currently use VSWITCH for all of my guest TCP/IP traffic, but VTAM? Sorry to confuse. VTAM (VSE, VM, MVS) XCA nodes cannot drive anything in a VSWITCH. VTAM XCA nodes use an adapter protocol called LSA which, like IP's old LCS protocol, is available only in OSE chpids. VSWITCH NICs, however, simulate OSD chpids. If, someday, VTAM changes from LSA to layer 2 QDIO connections, then it will work. Until then Comm Server for Linux, OTOH, can use CTC to talk to VTAM or it can [now] use layer 2 OSD chpids (real OSA or VSWITCH) to talk to a VTAM XCA node. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
