Re: backup product
Harley Linker wrote:
>You may want to investigate IBM's Spectrum Protect.
>I don't know if it supports SLES 15 or not though.
It does. The IBM Spectrum Protect clients support SLES 15 for IBM Z (and
LinuxONE). From what I can find, IBM declared client support for SLES 15
starting with Spectrum Protect Version 8.1.6, released in September, 2018.
My recollection is that SLES 15 became available sometime in July, 2018. So
IBM only took about 60 days to add SLES 15 as an officially supported
Spectrum Protect client.
For the record, the IBM Spectrum Protect servers are not yet officially IBM
supported on SLES 15, as I write this. SLES 12 for IBM Z / LinuxONE, and
various other platforms and releases, are officially IBM supported. I
presume that SLES 15 support is around the corner, but please ask IBM
through its official channels.
Source:
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/overview-ibm-spectrum-protect-supported-operating-systems
By the way, the IBM Infrastructure Suite for z/VM includes IBM Spectrum
Protect.
CommVault does support Linux on Z, but I too see they haven't added SLES 15
for IBM Z ("s390x") yet to their various platform lists. You might ask them
when they plan to add SLES 15 to their lists.
Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE
E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com
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Re: backup product
What about Innovation Data Processing's FDR/Upstream? On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:39 PM Mark Post wrote: > On 11/4/19 1:00 PM, Levy, Alan wrote: > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up > our linux servers (dasd and san) ? > > I know that Tivoli Storage Manager works on Linux for IBM Z. If you have > SCSI tape drives, you can even run the TSM Server on Z. > > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
Alan, The basic documentation for installation and configuration is in the "Linux Interface Quick Reference" section of the VM:Tape documentation. Unfortunately, detailed command documentation is supplied in "man" pages that can't be viewed until the RPM has been installed. Generally, it has been our experience that Linux applications that request tapes (for example TPF) provide a way to customize how the application accomplishes that ... this is where VMTAPE syntax is generally specified. JR (Steven) Imler Sr. Software Engineer | Mainframe Division Broadcom office: +1 571.401.8685 2291 Wood Oak Drive | Herndon, Virginia 20171 steven.im...@broadcom.com | broadcom.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 03:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: backup product On Monday, 11/04/2019 at 07:24 GMT, Steven Imler wrote: > VM:Tape does have the VM:Tape Linux Interface (process that runs on > the Linux guest) that can be used to mount and manage (channel > attached) tapes > for the Linux guest; as requested by the Linux backup agents, TPF, etc. I'm not seeing that at the enterprise level, JR, only one-offs. At scale, individual distributed systems don't write to tape. They write to a server that uses (SCSI) tape as its own offload storage. And it doesn't matter if the backup server runs on Z or not. There are simply are not enough drives (virtual or real) to service thousands of backup streams from individual hosts. OTOH, if you've got a "LAN-free" (SAN) device driver that simulates SCSI on FICON (like the inverse of a tape EDEVICE) such that a Spectrum Protect (or other) server running on Linux on Z can use it as tape, then it's worth calling that out. It's through that interface that these backup servers read/write tapes and manipulate the library. For my clients with Broadcom products, it would be good to know where to read about configuring (e.g.) Spectrum Protect client to use your VM:Tape Linux interface. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
On Monday, 11/04/2019 at 07:24 GMT, Steven Imler wrote: > VM:Tape does have the VM:Tape Linux Interface (process that runs on the > Linux guest) that can be used to mount and manage (channel attached) tapes > for the Linux guest; as requested by the Linux backup agents, TPF, etc. I'm not seeing that at the enterprise level, JR, only one-offs. At scale, individual distributed systems don't write to tape. They write to a server that uses (SCSI) tape as its own offload storage. And it doesn't matter if the backup server runs on Z or not. There are simply are not enough drives (virtual or real) to service thousands of backup streams from individual hosts. OTOH, if you've got a "LAN-free" (SAN) device driver that simulates SCSI on FICON (like the inverse of a tape EDEVICE) such that a Spectrum Protect (or other) server running on Linux on Z can use it as tape, then it's worth calling that out. It's through that interface that these backup servers read/write tapes and manipulate the library. For my clients with Broadcom products, it would be good to know where to read about configuring (e.g.) Spectrum Protect client to use your VM:Tape Linux interface. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
We have backed up all of our Linux servers (z or x86 based) on TSM for years (now Spectrum Protectbut will always be ADSM to me). We haven't gone to SLES 15 yet, but I don't know of a reason why it would not work. Martha On 11/4/2019 1:38 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 11/4/19 1:00 PM, Levy, Alan wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our linux servers (dasd and san) ? I know that Tivoli Storage Manager works on Linux for IBM Z. If you have SCSI tape drives, you can even run the TSM Server on Z. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Martha McConaghy Marist: System Architect/Technical Lead SHARE: Vice President Marist College IT Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
According to the Veritas website, Netbackup on SLES 15 system Z is supported if 8.2 client. Marcy -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
VM:Tape does have the VM:Tape Linux Interface (process that runs on the Linux guest) that can be used to mount and manage (channel attached) tapes for the Linux guest; as requested by the Linux backup agents, TPF, etc. JR (Steven) Imler Sr. Software Engineer | Mainframe Division Broadcom office: +1 571.401.8685 2291 Wood Oak Drive | Herndon, Virginia 20171 steven.im...@broadcom.com | broadcom.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 01:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: backup product On Monday, 11/04/2019 at 06:01 GMT, "Levy, Alan" wrote: > The divisions here are migrating away from Netbackup to CommVault. > > The only problem is that Netbackup currently does not work with SLES15 and > CommVault is not certified for s390x SLES15 (only for x86). > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our > linux servers (dasd and san) ? > > We are also precluded from using VMTAPE and VMBACKUP (from CA). VMTAPE and VMBACKUP are for taking CMS file, spool, etc., and guest image backups from EDEVICEs and 3390s. The alternatives from IBM are - IBM Tape Manager for z/VM, and - IBM Backup and Restore Manager for z/VM You need this capability for DR and to recover when sysprog does something dumb. "Ooops, I didn't mean to erase that file" z/VM files and objects, as well as guest image backups, are typically archived to tape which is replicated in your grid to your DR site/provider. And by having the Linux disk image backups, you're able to rapidly restore a working Linux. The Linux (and other distributed) servers need to manage files, too. For that, have a look at IBM Spectrum Protect (formerly Tivoli Storage Manager). If you have z/OS, then the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for z/OS Media product can be used as a target for Spectrum Protect, enabling it to use FICON tape. (The other TSM components were withdrawn from z/OS- the media server is all that remains.) After the DR image is restored, you use Spectrum Protect to pull in all the later files to bring it up to the most recent content (depending on when the DR image is taken). Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
On Monday, 11/04/2019 at 06:01 GMT, "Levy, Alan" wrote: > The divisions here are migrating away from Netbackup to CommVault. > > The only problem is that Netbackup currently does not work with SLES15 and > CommVault is not certified for s390x SLES15 (only for x86). > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our > linux servers (dasd and san) ? > > We are also precluded from using VMTAPE and VMBACKUP (from CA). VMTAPE and VMBACKUP are for taking CMS file, spool, etc., and guest image backups from EDEVICEs and 3390s. The alternatives from IBM are - IBM Tape Manager for z/VM, and - IBM Backup and Restore Manager for z/VM You need this capability for DR and to recover when sysprog does something dumb. "Ooops, I didn't mean to erase that file" z/VM files and objects, as well as guest image backups, are typically archived to tape which is replicated in your grid to your DR site/provider. And by having the Linux disk image backups, you're able to rapidly restore a working Linux. The Linux (and other distributed) servers need to manage files, too. For that, have a look at IBM Spectrum Protect (formerly Tivoli Storage Manager). If you have z/OS, then the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for z/OS Media product can be used as a target for Spectrum Protect, enabling it to use FICON tape. (The other TSM components were withdrawn from z/OS- the media server is all that remains.) After the DR image is restored, you use Spectrum Protect to pull in all the later files to bring it up to the most recent content (depending on when the DR image is taken). Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
You should consider FDR/UPSTREAM as it does support SLES 15. You can use your z/OS system for the storage server where it leverage your FICON z/OS tape system. https://www.fdr.com/products/upstreamlinux/ Or if you don't want to go to the mainframe UPSTREAM supports SCSI or FIBRE attached tapes. https://www.fdr.com/products/reservoir/ Regards, Patrick Fitzsimmons INNOVATION Data Processing (973) 890-7300 FAX (973) 812-7384 www.fdr.com pf...@fdrinnovation.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Levy, Alan Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 1:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: backup product The divisions here are migrating away from Netbackup to CommVault. The only problem is that Netbackup currently does not work with SLES15 and CommVault is not certified for s390x SLES15 (only for x86). Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our linux servers (dasd and san) ? We are also precluded from using VMTAPE and VMBACKUP (from CA). Thanks. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Email secured by Check Point R80.10 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
On 11/4/19 1:00 PM, Levy, Alan wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our > linux servers (dasd and san) ? I know that Tivoli Storage Manager works on Linux for IBM Z. If you have SCSI tape drives, you can even run the TSM Server on Z. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: backup product
You may want to investigate IBM's Spectrum Protect. I don't know if it supports SLES 15 or not though. One of my clients uses the Base componenet to backup SLES 11 and SLES 12 zLinux hosts (non-database files) and also runs a component that is database aware to back up the Oracle databases. Harley Linker Jr. Sr. Systems Programmer Ensono e: harley.lin...@ensono.com o: 630.944.5111 www.ensono.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Levy, Alan Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 12:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: backup product *** ATTENTION! This message originated from outside of Ensono. Treat hyperlinks and attachments in this email with caution. *** The divisions here are migrating away from Netbackup to CommVault. The only problem is that Netbackup currently does not work with SLES15 and CommVault is not certified for s390x SLES15 (only for x86). Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our linux servers (dasd and san) ? We are also precluded from using VMTAPE and VMBACKUP (from CA). Thanks. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.marist.edu%2Fhtbin%2Fwlvindex%3FLINUX-390data=02%7C01%7Charley.linker%40ENSONO.COM%7C8b3b7ab651f94770296f08d761511c56%7Cd483ed84f7bf4078a58ffb250feccf8f%7C0%7C1%7C637084873320314699sdata=EW4EUfZklAEhZSk5e7OF9WFUH6OXIsdTYDhGHgtIQ1U%3Dreserved=0 © 2019 Ensono, LP. All rights reserved. Ensono is a trademark of Ensono, LP. The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
backup product
The divisions here are migrating away from Netbackup to CommVault. The only problem is that Netbackup currently does not work with SLES15 and CommVault is not certified for s390x SLES15 (only for x86). Does anyone have any recommendations for a product that will backup up our linux servers (dasd and san) ? We are also precluded from using VMTAPE and VMBACKUP (from CA). Thanks. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
