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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emilio Joel Macias Gomez wrote: hello i dont speak english very well but i do my best i want use the ELKS in my 286 machine with one ethernet card ne2000 and i don't know make this. The ELKS work perfectly with the elkscmd but i need work with the network and i don't have idea for make this. ELKS does not have support for TCP/IP yet. The plan is to implement it as a user space process, if I understand the developers right. You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try out Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html Minix supports NE2000, TCP/IP, several users and some memory protection on the 80286. Jakob
RE: your mail
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jakov af Wallby Sent: 13 June 2000 08:43 To: Emilio Joel Macias Gomez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try out Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html Or alternativly at http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ :) -Darran
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Alright I admit it I am not a genius, In fact perhaps I am a complete bonhead. HOW THE HECK DO I GET OFF OF THIS LIST? - Original Message - From: Darran D. Rimron-Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakov af Wallby' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:00 AM Subject: RE: your mail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jakov af Wallby Sent: 13 June 2000 08:43 To: Emilio Joel Macias Gomez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try out Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html Or alternativly at http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ :) -Darran
Re: your mail
I think a userspace process for networking is the right answer here. Keep the kernel small. cristi At 09:43 AM 6/13/00 +0200, Jakov af Wallby wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emilio Joel Macias Gomez wrote: hello i dont speak english very well but i do my best i want use the ELKS in my 286 machine with one ethernet card ne2000 and i don't know make this. The ELKS work perfectly with the elkscmd but i need work with the network and i don't have idea for make this. ELKS does not have support for TCP/IP yet. The plan is to implement it as a user space process, if I understand the developers right. You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try out Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html Minix supports NE2000, TCP/IP, several users and some memory protection on the 80286. Jakob
Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit
I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere. Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources. cristi At 10:20 PM 6/12/00 -0400, Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers Just out of curiosity, has someone come up with the idea for networking for ELKS. It seems to me, to be an easy fix. Gregg C Levine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the Force, Luke. Obi-Wan Kenobi Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait. Obi-Wan Kenobi The Force will be with you. Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi May the Force be with you. And to you Anonymous
Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Cristi wrote: I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere. Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources. I think the origional plan was to have a user space stack, and in kernel drivers. That makes sense, as the 64k limit won't stretch much further. Lukeboo
Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit
Luke Farrar wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Cristi wrote: I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere. Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources. I think the origional plan was to have a user space stack, and in kernel drivers. That makes sense, as the 64k limit won't stretch much further. As for NIC drivers, I think a good strategy would be to recycle the packet drivers Crynwyr provides. They're all GPL anyhow, right? I think that the packet driver model, while it does have performance bottlenecks, is good enough for what ELKS is supposed to do. We're trying to multitask and network on a real-mode processor with at most 640K of RAM... -- Rafael R. Sevilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] +63 (2) 4342217 Mobile Robotics Laboratory +63 (917) 4458925 University of the Philippines Diliman
RE: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit
Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers Not me. In this suit, I only make suggestions, I only follow up on them, if there is still a need for them, and no one else has. Gregg C Levine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi "The Force will be with you. Always. " Obi-Wan Kenobi "May the Force be with you. And to you" Anonymous -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit On 2000-06-12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers Just out of curiosity, has someone come up with the idea for networking for ELKS. It seems to me, to be an easy fix. If it seems easy to you , maybe you are the one who can do it.. Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive