Re: your mail

2000-06-13 Thread Jakov af Wallby



On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emilio Joel Macias Gomez wrote:

 hello
 i dont speak english very well but i do my best
 i want use the ELKS in my 286 machine with one ethernet card ne2000 
 and i don't know make this.
 The ELKS work perfectly with the elkscmd but i need work with the network
 and i don't have idea for make this.

ELKS does not have support for TCP/IP yet.
The plan is to implement it as a user space process, if I understand the
developers right.

You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try
out Minix:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html


Minix supports NE2000, TCP/IP, several users and some memory protection on the
80286.

Jakob





RE: your mail

2000-06-13 Thread Darran D. Rimron-Molloy

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 To: Emilio Joel Macias Gomez
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 Subject: Re: your mail

 You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try
 out Minix:
 http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html

Or alternativly at http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/

:)

-Darran





Re: your mail

2000-06-13 Thread William Price

Alright
I admit it
I am not a genius, In fact perhaps I am a complete bonhead.

HOW THE HECK DO I GET OFF OF THIS LIST?



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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jakov
af Wallby
  Sent: 13 June 2000 08:43
  To: Emilio Joel Macias Gomez
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: your mail

  You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you
could try
  out Minix:
  http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html

 Or alternativly at http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/

 :)

 -Darran





Re: your mail

2000-06-13 Thread Cristi


I think a userspace process for networking is the right answer here. Keep
the kernel small.

cristi

At 09:43 AM 6/13/00 +0200, Jakov af Wallby wrote:


On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emilio Joel Macias Gomez
wrote:

 hello
 i dont speak english very well but i do my best
 i want use the ELKS in my 286 machine with one ethernet card ne2000

 and i don't know make this.
 The ELKS work perfectly with the elkscmd but i need work with the
network
 and i don't have idea for make this.

ELKS does not have support for TCP/IP yet.
The plan is to implement it as a user space process, if I understand
the
developers right.

You could either try to add TCP/IP support to ELKS or you could try
out Minix:
http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix.html


Minix supports NE2000, TCP/IP, several users and some memory protection
on the
80286.

Jakob



Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit

2000-06-13 Thread Cristi


I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think
networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere.
Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources.

cristi


At 10:20 PM 6/12/00 -0400, Gregg C Levine wrote:
Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi
Knight Computers
Just out of curiosity, has someone come up with the idea for networking
for
ELKS. It seems to me, to be an easy fix.
Gregg C Levine
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Use the Force, Luke. Obi-Wan Kenobi
Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait. Obi-Wan Kenobi
The Force will be with you. Always.  Obi-Wan Kenobi
May the Force be with you. And to you
Anonymous


Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit

2000-06-13 Thread Luke Farrar



On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Cristi wrote:

 
 I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think 
 networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere. 
 Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources.
 

I think the origional plan was to have a user space stack, and in kernel
drivers. That makes sense, as the 64k limit won't stretch much further.

Lukeboo




Re: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit

2000-06-13 Thread Dido Sevilla

Luke Farrar wrote:
 
 On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Cristi wrote:
 
 
  I would rather wait for a solid kernel and then add networking. I think
  networking should be a module as you don't need networking everywhere.
  Biulding it modular you can deal with limited resources.
 
 
 I think the origional plan was to have a user space stack, and in kernel
 drivers. That makes sense, as the 64k limit won't stretch much further.
 

As for NIC drivers, I think a good strategy would be to recycle the
packet drivers Crynwyr provides.  They're all GPL anyhow, right?  I
think that the packet driver model, while it does have performance
bottlenecks, is good enough for what ELKS is supposed to do.  We're
trying to multitask and network on a real-mode processor with at most
640K of RAM...

--
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University of the Philippines Diliman



RE: Adding networking to the ELKS basic install kit

2000-06-13 Thread Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers
Not me. In this suit, I only make suggestions, I only follow up on them, if
there is still a need for them, and no one else has.
Gregg C Levine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Trust in the Force, Luke, and wait." Obi-Wan Kenobi
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"May the Force be with you. And to you" Anonymous
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 On 2000-06-12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello from Gregg C Levine usually with Jedi Knight Computers
Just out of curiosity, has someone come up with the idea for
networking for ELKS. It seems to me, to be an easy fix.
 If it seems easy to you , maybe you are the one who can do it..


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