Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
dosemu is enough for Elks. I did not try yet but it must be light and fast. If someone want to run Elks on non x86, then she need Bochs Also there is alternative of VMware is under development with GPL... http://www.plex86.org/ (it was called FreeMWare). I am expecting this... love setu John Galt wrote: But Bochs just went GPL recently, so there is some good coming out of the vmware thing... On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Andru Luvisi wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Prem Setu wrote: [snip] Host OS: Linux, Win., Mac Emulator: Vmware, Dosemu, Bochs [snip] For those who care about this sort of thing, the vmware people have software patents. http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/ for information on why many consider this to be a Bad Thing. Andru -- -- | Andru Luvisi | http://libweb.sonoma.edu/ | | Programmer/Analyst | Library Resources Online | | Ruben Salazar Library|-| | Sonoma State University | http://www.belleprovence.com/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Textile imports from Provence, France | -- The Internet must be a medium for it is neither Rare nor Well done! a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"John Galt /a
Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
Nicola Girardi wrote: On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 11:46:54AM +0530, Prem Setu wrote: | dosemu is enough for Elks. I did not try yet but it must be light and fast. | If someone want to run Elks on non x86, then she need Bochs Is there anywhere a howto/guide to set up dosemu to boot elks? Ah! I was almost writing my self. I will try my self soon. but if someone has information how to install / boot Elks in DosEmu, I am happy to hear This is only info I have --- this is extruct of past discussion From: Mario Frasca [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kalogirou Harilaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:28:08 +0100 Subject: Re: VMware Hi Kalagirou, I tried DOSEMU(ver 0.99.10) but nothing, it stops while reading the boot disk with message You're running Redhat, too, aren't you? I've had this same problem with the dosemu 0.99.something coming with RH6.0. that is a development version, not necessarily a stable one. what I did was uninstalling it and downloading 0.98.8.0. now I start my dosmachine in a xterm like this: xtermdos [-A] (the -A is to boot it from a boot disk.) I use ELKS kernel version 0.0.81 and Dev86 version 0.14.9 this is exactly what I'm using, and it works as described above. hope this helps. Mario. Thank you Mario, meanwhile I found "bochs" an i386 emulator which runs fine. I'll use that for the moment it seems to work ok if I exclude some "@" appearing randomly at the bottom of the screen! If more problems evolve I will switch to DOSEMU. Harry "Alegria Loinaz. Inaki" wrote: Hi, I am a new participant in the list and after reading FAQs I have a couple of questions: - Is ELKS able to run executable programs from standard Linux? - Is possible with ELKS to read the File System in the hard disk (I suposse no, but I don$B%((Bt know sure) I am looking for a simple OS to use teaching (modifying the kernel) and despite simplicity is very important, I'd like to be possible to load pre-compiled programs and to have a file system in hard disk. Is ELKS a good choice for this or it is better an old version of the Linux kernel? Thanks in advance - Inaki Alegria University of the Basque Country 649 Postakutxa, 20080 Donostia Basque Country - -- Nicola Girardi aka nick, nikke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 5D9E ED36 C2E9 EF8F C4B6 25C2 3FF4 E5A2 27A7 83B9 GnuPG Key at http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~nicola/gpg-plan Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature love setu
Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
Nicola Girardi wrote: On Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 11:46:54AM +0530, Prem Setu wrote: | dosemu is enough for Elks. I did not try yet but it must be light and fast. | If someone want to run Elks on non x86, then she need Bochs Is there anywhere a howto/guide to set up dosemu to boot elks? Ah! I was almost writing my self. I will try my self soon. but if someone has information how to install / boot Elks in DosEmu, I am happy to hear This is only info I have --- this is extruct of past discussion From: Mario Frasca [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kalogirou Harilaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:28:08 +0100 Subject: Re: VMware Hi Kalagirou, I tried DOSEMU(ver 0.99.10) but nothing, it stops while reading the boot disk with message You're running Redhat, too, aren't you? I've had this same problem with the dosemu 0.99.something coming with RH6.0. that is a development version, not necessarily a stable one. what I did was uninstalling it and downloading 0.98.8.0. now I start my dosmachine in a xterm like this: xtermdos [-A] (the -A is to boot it from a boot disk.) I use ELKS kernel version 0.0.81 and Dev86 version 0.14.9 this is exactly what I'm using, and it works as described above. hope this helps. Mario. Thank you Mario, meanwhile I found "bochs" an i386 emulator which runs fine. I'll use that for the moment it seems to work ok if I exclude some "@" appearing randomly at the bottom of the screen! If more problems evolve I will switch to DOSEMU. Harry "Alegria Loinaz. Inaki" wrote: Hi, I am a new participant in the list and after reading FAQs I have a couple of questions: - Is ELKS able to run executable programs from standard Linux? - Is possible with ELKS to read the File System in the hard disk (I suposse no, but I don$B%((Bt know sure) I am looking for a simple OS to use teaching (modifying the kernel) and despite simplicity is very important, I'd like to be possible to load pre-compiled programs and to have a file system in hard disk. Is ELKS a good choice for this or it is better an old version of the Linux kernel? Thanks in advance - Inaki Alegria University of the Basque Country 649 Postakutxa, 20080 Donostia Basque Country - -- Nicola Girardi aka nick, nikke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 5D9E ED36 C2E9 EF8F C4B6 25C2 3FF4 E5A2 27A7 83B9 GnuPG Key at http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~nicola/gpg-plan Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature love setu
Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
Hi It is good idea to run ELKS on top of another Host OS for teaching or learning. (developing too). Student does not need to have 2 box. They don't need to reboot to switch OS. There are several products to have virtual 8086 PC. Host OS: Linux, Win., Mac Emulator: Vmware, Dosemu, Bochs Also if it is Dosemu or Bochs (?), you can use ELKS via telnet or X-window server. Dosemu seems very light. Some student can share the server for ELKS virtual machine. Each student can have his own virtual ELKS. Because you can use DosEmu via telnet, student's machine can be any stupid box :-) To build each evnironment for student can be very easy. Once you set up a sample, you can just copy to for each student's home directory. Because host OS is running Linux, you can build on it. Is it a good idea??? Love Setu --- this is extruct of past discussion From: Mario Frasca [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kalogirou Harilaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:28:08 +0100 Subject: Re: VMware Hi Kalagirou, I tried DOSEMU(ver 0.99.10) but nothing, it stops while reading the boot disk with message You're running Redhat, too, aren't you? I've had this same problem with the dosemu 0.99.something coming with RH6.0. that is a development version, not necessarily a stable one. what I did was uninstalling it and downloading 0.98.8.0. now I start my dosmachine in a xterm like this: xtermdos [-A] (the -A is to boot it from a boot disk.) I use ELKS kernel version 0.0.81 and Dev86 version 0.14.9 this is exactly what I'm using, and it works as described above. hope this helps. Mario. Thank you Mario, meanwhile I found "bochs" an i386 emulator which runs fine. I'll use that for the moment it seems to work ok if I exclude some "@" appearing randomly at the bottom of the screen! If more problems evolve I will switch to DOSEMU. Harry "Alegria Loinaz. Inaki" wrote: Hi, I am a new participant in the list and after reading FAQs I have a couple of questions: - Is ELKS able to run executable programs from standard Linux? - Is possible with ELKS to read the File System in the hard disk (I suposse no, but I don´t know sure) I am looking for a simple OS to use teaching (modifying the kernel) and despite simplicity is very important, I'd like to be possible to load pre-compiled programs and to have a file system in hard disk. Is ELKS a good choice for this or it is better an old version of the Linux kernel? Thanks in advance - Inaki Alegria University of the Basque Country 649 Postakutxa, 20080 Donostia Basque Country -
