Re: [LAD] wiki page: dead projects
Hi, thanks to Holger and Robin for the replies
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:10:51 +0200
Robin Gareus ro...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
The generic way to do this it to simply add the tag unmaintained to
each project, then they'll automatically end up at
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/unmaintained
Just add {{OTHER TAGS unmaintained}} to the page of the app e.g.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/rezound
thanks for pointing this out, didn't know about that page. This is what
I'll do then
I'm pretty
sure that if in the future it wouldn't compile anymore due for
example to some gtk libraries not backwards compatible, someone
would pretty fast come up with a patch. So, does it belong to the
list? Or should we just change the name to abandoned projects,
and thus even examples like jack-rack would fit in?
For non-generic info, create a wiki page. f.i.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/projects_that_need_loving
link to the app in question (e.g. [[:apps:all:rezound]]) - and add
detailed info there.
The :apps:all:* name-space at http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/*
should only contain applications and no custom-pages.
[...]
The development tag is intended for libraries - handy for
developers.
I'm in touch with Emanuel Rumpf off-list to update the wiki, re-style
it and clean out the tag mess.. it's on the top of my ToDo list for
July/August.
So I'll be deleting the page I created and tagging apps unmaintained
instead... but are you suggesting that a page under /wiki would still
be a good idea? Maybe containing some more detailed explanations than
the unmaintained page, like Kluppe is great but it would greatly
benefit from basic midi support?
Such a thing could potentially get complicated: shouldn't bugs and
feature requests not pertain the wiki, but the project's pages/authors?
Anyhow, I think the unmaintained page is allready a good resource, I
just think it should be more advertised.
As a more general question to the community, what do you think about
setting up a system where users can donate money for a certain future
to be added to a software (and the devs that do the work get the money)?
The ardour project uses this thing right?
It would be great if such a system could be implemented in a central
place like linuxaudio.org, that way (and with this we get [almost] back
on topic) one could donate money for a dead/unmaintained project to be
resurrected, whereas as it is now I wouldn't know where to donate
money to have say spiral synth modular add a certain future. I think it
would be a nice thing for the community.
What are the pros and cons of such a system?
cheers
renato
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Re: [LAD] wiki page: dead projects
2011/6/30 Renato renn...@gmail.com: Maybe add a more detailed explanations than on the unmaintained page, like Kluppe is great but it would greatly benefit from basic midi support? Add that info to the kluppe wiki page. (Or to a new dedicated page, gathering such issues) Such a thing could potentially get complicated: shouldn't bugs and feature requests not pertain the wiki, but the project's pages/authors? I think the wiki is a good place for such notes, because everyone can add and edit. That only appears reasonable of course, if developers are interested too and occasionally visit the site Anyhow, I think the unmaintained page is allready a good resource, I just think it should be more advertised. Yes. At least a link from the main page would be welcome. As a more general question to the community, what do you think about setting up a system where users can donate money for a certain future Setting up such a system potentially is a lot of work, so using existing solutions might be preferable. http://cofundos.org/ A difficulty: Developers can propose projects there but users cannot request, AFAIS. I've created a wiki page, but I mistrust myself, wondering if that offers an admissible place. http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/user_requests Not for funding likely, but for a rough overview, what users demand or developers offer ? It would be great if such a system could be implemented in a central place like linuxaudio.org, Hm. People already can donate to most open projects. For a developer it's a great risk, depending on donations only. That's why those donate buttons don't help much with the projects progress, because (often) there is no reliability, transparency, etc. It's usually a welcome addition for developers, but no real funding option. What are the pros and cons of such a system? ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] wiki page: dead projects
Hello, I created this wiki page http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/dead_projects which stems from a thread I had started about a year ago here on LAD, asking for people to tell what software they found very valuable but no longer maintained. I have no prior experience with the wiki so I probably have made some mistakes, first of all for example I'm not sure if the page is placed in the right place. Would someone with more experience kindly point out or even better correct these mistakes? Also, maybe a distinction should be made: for example, while jack-rack AFAIK doesn't have a dev periodically maintaining it, I think no one would call it dead, since it is quite usable and used; I'm pretty sure that if in the future it wouldn't compile anymore due for example to some gtk libraries not backwards compatible, someone would pretty fast come up with a patch. So, does it belong to the list? Or should we just change the name to abandoned projects, and thus even examples like jack-rack would fit in? As of now there are two problems with the content of the page: 1) Tau physical modelling is a software that was mentioned in the said LAD thread, but I couldn't find it anywhere online. links anyone? 2) Softwerk by Paul Davis was mentioned, but then Paul chimed in and said he had just committed to svn, however I couldn't find the svn address... So, Paul, could you kindly provide us the svn address, to add maybe here http://apps.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/softwerk or if you're no longer working on it, could we add it to the list? Ideally this page would be a place where developers in search for a nice project would go, so I would find it good to link to it in some places, but I'm not sure where... probably here http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/development would be a good idea, but I wasn't able to edit the page. Then maybe even some place more upfront like here?: http://www.linuxaudio.org/resources cheers renato ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] wiki page: dead projects
On 06/29/2011 10:25 AM, Renato wrote:
Hello, I created this wiki page
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/dead_projects
which stems from a thread I had started about a year ago here on LAD, asking
for people to tell what software they found very valuable
but no longer maintained.
I have no prior experience with the wiki so I probably have made some
mistakes, first of all for example I'm not sure if the page is placed
in the right place. Would someone with more experience kindly point out
or even better correct these mistakes?
I've started doing that. But I'm short on time these days. I May not get
around to attend to this before the week after next.
The generic way to do this it to simply add the tag unmaintained to
each project, then they'll automatically end up at
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/unmaintained
Just add {{OTHER TAGS unmaintained}} to the page of the app e.g.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/rezound
Also, maybe a distinction should be made: for example, while jack-rack
AFAIK doesn't have a dev periodically maintaining it, I think no one
would call it dead, since it is quite usable and used;
That's why we call it unmaintained :)
I'm pretty
sure that if in the future it wouldn't compile anymore due for example
to some gtk libraries not backwards compatible, someone would pretty
fast come up with a patch. So, does it belong to the list? Or should we
just change the name to abandoned projects, and thus even examples
like jack-rack would fit in?
For non-generic info, create a wiki page. f.i.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/projects_that_need_loving
link to the app in question (e.g. [[:apps:all:rezound]]) - and add
detailed info there.
The :apps:all:* name-space at http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/*
should only contain applications and no custom-pages.
As of now there are two problems with the content of the page:
1) Tau physical modelling is a software that was mentioned in the said
LAD thread, but I couldn't find it anywhere online. links anyone?
2) Softwerk by Paul Davis was mentioned, but then Paul chimed in and
said he had just committed to svn, however I couldn't find the svn
address... So, Paul, could you kindly provide us the svn address, to
add maybe here
http://apps.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/softwerk
or if you're no longer working on it, could we add it to the list?
Ideally this page would be a place where developers in search for a
nice project would go, so I would find it good to link to it in some
places, but I'm not sure where... probably here
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/development
The development tag is intended for libraries - handy for developers.
I'm in touch with Emanuel Rumpf off-list to update the wiki, re-style it
and clean out the tag mess.. it's on the top of my ToDo list for
July/August.
would be a good idea, but I wasn't able to edit the page. Then maybe
even some place more upfront like here?:
http://www.linuxaudio.org/resources
cheers
renato
Thanks for your contribution,
Cheers!
robin
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