Re: [PATCH] - Make mke2fs.c defaults match mke2fs.conf defaults

2007-05-07 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:31:22AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: One of
 our testers filed a bug that said mkfs.ext3 is much slower when
 mke2fs.conf is missing...
 
 This is because the shipped defaults in mke2fs.conf do not match the
 shipped defaults in the mkfs code itself; he wound up making a 1k
 block filesystem on a very large block device, for example.
 
 So - How about this patch, to bring them back into line?  

It doesn't actually bring them completely back into line, since mke2fs
will use different block sizes depending on the size of the
filesystem.  So your patch makes the default probably a bit more
reasonable, and so I'll probably end up applying it, but it definitely
isn't a complete replacement for /etc/mke2fs.conf.

How likely do you think the case will be that mke2fs.conf would be
missing?  I'm trying to figure out how high priority of an item this
really is.

 Which makes me wonder; having defaults in 2 different places is
 bound to get out of sync; should we instead generate both code 
 config file defaults (and maybe man page defaults) from a common
 source?

I had been working on the assumption that the defaults if mke2fs.conf
were not present were more in the nature of emergency defaults as
opposed something that could be used a fully functional set of
configuration parameters.  So the assumption was that when you
installed the RPM, mke2fs.conf would also be there.

We could enhance the profile code so that it could read in the profile
from a memory buffer, and simply compile /etc/mke2fs.conf into mke2fs,
but that adds bloat --- the question is how necessary do we think that
really is?

Regards,

- Ted
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Re: [PATCH] - Make mke2fs.c defaults match mke2fs.conf defaults

2007-05-07 Thread Eric Sandeen
Theodore Tso wrote:
 On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:31:22AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: One of
 our testers filed a bug that said mkfs.ext3 is much slower when
 mke2fs.conf is missing...

 This is because the shipped defaults in mke2fs.conf do not match the
 shipped defaults in the mkfs code itself; he wound up making a 1k
 block filesystem on a very large block device, for example.

 So - How about this patch, to bring them back into line?  
 
 It doesn't actually bring them completely back into line, since mke2fs
 will use different block sizes depending on the size of the
 filesystem.  So your patch makes the default probably a bit more
 reasonable, and so I'll probably end up applying it, but it definitely
 isn't a complete replacement for /etc/mke2fs.conf.

Well, sure, I don't mean for it to *replace* mke2fs.conf...

Hm, does having

[defaults]
blocksize = 4096

in mke2fs.conf turn off the blocksize heuristics and force 4k?  is
what's in mke2fs.conf a starting point or an absolute?  I guess I need
to read up on the code...

 How likely do you think the case will be that mke2fs.conf would be
 missing?  I'm trying to figure out how high priority of an item this
 really is.

Well, not too likely, although for some reason I guess it happened in
the installer root in FC6 or so.  That's what raised the issue.

 We could enhance the profile code so that it could read in the profile
 from a memory buffer, and simply compile /etc/mke2fs.conf into mke2fs,
 but that adds bloat --- the question is how necessary do we think that
 really is?

I guess it doesn't really sound *necessary* - it's just that if we have
2 different defaults and they drift, it can be confusing...

-Eric
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Re: [PATCH] - Make mke2fs.c defaults match mke2fs.conf defaults

2007-05-07 Thread Andreas Dilger
On May 07, 2007  14:52 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
 Theodore Tso wrote:
  How likely do you think the case will be that mke2fs.conf would be
  missing?  I'm trying to figure out how high priority of an item this
  really is.
 
 Well, not too likely, although for some reason I guess it happened in
 the installer root in FC6 or so.  That's what raised the issue.

Ah, good point - there are probably lots of installers and rescue disks
that grab mke2fs but don't know anything about /etc/mke2fs.conf.

  We could enhance the profile code so that it could read in the profile
  from a memory buffer, and simply compile /etc/mke2fs.conf into mke2fs,
  but that adds bloat --- the question is how necessary do we think that
  really is?
 
 I guess it doesn't really sound *necessary* - it's just that if we have
 2 different defaults and they drift, it can be confusing...

Since the shipped mke2fs.conf is only on the order of a few hundred bytes
I don't think it is a huge issue to include it.  I like the idea of it
being compiled into the code and yet consistent with the default install.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Principal Software Engineer
Cluster File Systems, Inc.

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