Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-18 Thread Thomas Lange

 On 17 Jan 2002 12:49:53 -0700, Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:

 Do you know of any successful implementations?  (say.. 15-50
 servers..)  Anyone I could use as a reference?  I don't want to

I'm always looking for references, but no one makes a little web page
or write a short how I did it. I would like to collect links to
installations using FAI, but there are few people giving me a link.
Some other installations (but too few):
http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/other.html

Look also at: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/search4inst.html

-- 
 Thomas



Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-18 Thread Michael Renner

On Friday 18 January 2002 11:16, Thomas Lange wrote:

 I'm always looking for references, but no one makes a little web page
 or write a short how I did it. I would like to collect links to
 installations using FAI, but there are few people giving me a link.
 Some other installations (but too few):
 http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/other.html

I'am very interested to migrade my system (RedHat 7.1,
fully automaticly installed with a kickstart server,
administrate with a commercial tool 'venus' to debian
(which I prefer) togehter with fai.
But the requirements in my Max Planck Institute are
high.
I have a bunch of computers (single pentium, dual pentium,
dual athlon) with 'normal' monitors and LCDs.
Some of them have 3 botton mice, some have a wheel
mouse. Therefor all of them need different settings.
Is it possible to build conf-files on thy fly, depending
on the monitor, the mouse and the graphic adapter?
I also need a powerfull tool to administrate the users,
the nis maps, the computers themself. I need to
call commands on every maschine in addition,
maybe in dependence of classes.

If all of this is possible I will start to test woody
together with fai soon.
Here are 30 high end PCs waiting for fai ;-)

I hope somebody can answer my questions or point
to a manual.

Thanks
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|Michael Renner  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
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Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-18 Thread chewie

Blake Barnett said:
 Do you know of any successful implementations?  (say.. 15-50
 servers..)  Anyone I could use as a reference?  I don't want to

Yes. Ours. ;-)  I'm working for the Institute for Mathematics and its
Applications (IMA) at the University of Minnesota.  I've used our
woody-based FAI to install a number of minimalistic servers as well as
full-blown workstations.  There are lots of network topology, NFS, NIS
and software cleanup to do, so documentation and publication of our
setup hasn't really been at the forefront of my TODO list.  The good
news is that I've got most of the desired packages to install cleanly,
and the third-party software packages -- mathmatica, matlab, maple, etc.
-- are successfully being run via NFS automounts.

I am attempting to write up texinfo documentation (I need to learn emacs
again to take advantage of the texinfo mode) for our sysadmins on how I
did it and users for what does it mean to me, so the website articles
won't be far behind (texi2html and into2www are great).  

I am CVS controlling our templates, and using a wonderful little Perl
tool called cvs2cl to keep track of the ChangeLog's.  One thing I want
to do is tie in an auto-update of the CVS working directory checked out
on our FAI server.  That way, whenever I tag a file as CURRENT_RUNTIME,
it'll launch the 'cvs update' on the FAI server. ;-)

I'd also love to take advantage of the use of cfengine on each machine.
I've come to really appreciate the tool in the configuration of the
boxes during installation, and I can only see my systems management
becoming easier with its use site-wide.

I haven't been able to convince my boss to run everything under Debian,
but he's got some good points for running the other Linux distro.  I
do amuse him with my evalgelism, though. ;-)

I may convince the Math department into using a similar setup.

Thomas Lange said:
 I'm always looking for references, but no one makes a little web page
 or write a short how I did it. I would like to collect links to
 installations using FAI, but there are few people giving me a link.
 Some other installations (but too few):
   http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/other.html
 
 Look also at: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/search4inst.html

I'll look into putting up a cursory website, soon.  

--
Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-18 Thread Thomas Lange

 On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:37:09 +0100, Michael Renner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:

 I'am very interested to migrade my system (RedHat 7.1, fully
 automaticly installed with a kickstart server, administrate with
 a commercial tool 'venus' to debian (which I prefer) togehter
The best thing you can do ;-)

 of them need different settings.  Is it possible to build
 conf-files on thy fly, depending on the monitor, the mouse and
If there's a debian tool that can create the configs, fai can use this
tool. I'm not sure if there's such a noninteractive tool for Debian.

 the graphic adapter?  I also need a powerfull tool to
 administrate the users, the nis maps, the computers themself. I
Administration of a system is not the aim of fai, but installation is.

 need to call commands on every maschine in addition, maybe in
 dependence of classes.
There's a script in fai to call a command on every host belonging to a
NIS netgroup. Have also look at cfengine.

-- 
Gruss Thomas



Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-17 Thread Blake Barnett

Do you know of any successful implementations?  (say.. 15-50 servers..) 
Anyone I could use as a reference?  I don't want to waste a lot of time,
and I definitely don't have that luxury at this point.  

I appreciate your quick response, and your help.


On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 12:14, Thomas Lange wrote:
  On 17 Jan 2002 11:22:11 -0700, Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:
 
  boxen will be running Woody.  Is there a list of things that I
  need to change in FAI to account for this change from potato or
  do I just have to give it a try and fix it as I go?
 
 Try the CVS version (2.3pre), which is better for woody than FAI
 2.2.3. But the default configs are still for potato.
 
 In most files there are hints what to change. First some changes in
 fai.conf. Then most changes will be in the packages_config/* files,
 since many package names have changed, e.g all task- packages are
 obsolete in woody.
 
 I hope to make some more woody tests next week.
 
 -- 
  Thomas
-- 
Blake Barnett (bdb)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-17 Thread Eray Ozkural (exa)

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On Thursday 17 January 2002 23:07, Blake Barnett wrote:
 You have classes defined and package configs for woody?  If so, yes I'm
 interested.  Otherwise, as I'm not doing anything with parallel
 computing I'll pass.


Download (13.8MB)
http://borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~exa/fai-170102.tar.bz2

This should give you something to start with.

 Thanks for your response!

You're welcome.

I wish I had more time to devote to distributed computing tools.

Thanks,

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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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Re: Woody roll-out

2002-01-17 Thread Phillip Smith



On 17 Jan 2002, Blake Barnett wrote:

 Do you know of any successful implementations?  (say.. 15-50 servers..)
 Anyone I could use as a reference?  I don't want to waste a lot of time,
 and I definitely don't have that luxury at this point.

 I appreciate your quick response, and your help.


I have FAI 2.2.3 working just fine under woody on our 32 node
beowulf cluster (it's been working for quite some time).  The only
problem I encountered at the time was a few problems with debootstrap,
which have probably been fixed by now.

Was there something specific you wanted to know?

-phillip


Phillip Smith
UNIX Systems Administrator
Geophysical Sciences Computing
NSIT, University of Chicago

Phone:  773-834-0695
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]