Re: Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members
The form-based solution (that the E-mail link will lead to a form where people can send E-mail to the sender of the message.) sounds like a good one to me. The point is how can I implement it? What's the archives manager of the list? If I know that, then I'll be able to add support for this kind of stuff to it. I suppose I can only do that on weekends and on the Hanukkah vacation. Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of converting any statement that follows it into a true one. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man pages in wordpad
Hi guys I bought the only HP printer around that is not very likely to have a linux driver anytime soon. So I find myself printing man pages in wordpad. They turn out OK apart from boldface (?) where every character c turns into \Box c \Box c. Any simple conversion I can do to prevent this? Thanks Dorit = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew under netscape, in the subject area
Hi there I am getting: >Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-fixed-Bold-R-*-*-*-120-\ >*-*-*-*-ISO8859-8" to type FontStruct What have I done wrong? Dorit = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... quastion.
Hi can any one please show me a site where i can find the basics of TCP/IP programming for Linux ? thanks . Guy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade to RH6.1 ?
On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 17:28:38 +0200, Alex Shnitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 04:39:51PM +0200, lior cohen wrote: > >> i'm trying to upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 on a dual boot machine (with NT) >> and for some reason the upgrade hangs when i choose upgrade in te >> graphical installation . >> i thought it has something to do with an extra NTFS partition, does >> anyone know what i should do in order not to hang the upgrade and to >> successfully upgrade to 6.1 ? > >I'd try the text mode; it supposedly contains less bugs. Don't bother. the bug is in both the text mode, the graphical mode, or the expert mode. The only way to avoid the bug is to make sure there are no NTFS partitions on any hard disk on the machine you are upgrading. Either use fdisk (The linux program, not the MSDOS program with the same name!) to change the partition type to something else, or make sure the disk is not seen (If you have more than one IDE disk, disable unnecessary disks via the BIOS setup screen). You must prevent the RedHat install program from seeing ANY NTFS partition on your system. I have written about this bug on the list about a month ago, and reported it on the RedHat Bugzilla system, with a fix. Ever since then, I get CC'ed approx. every 3 days, when yet another incident is reopened on this bug, and a redhat support personnel solves this as identical to bug no. (I wasn't the first to report it either). Udi ÿÿ To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members
At 22:30 +0200 on 03/11/1999, Nadav Har'El wrote: >I use a much simpler method on the Ivrix mailing-list archives: I simply >convert *everything* that looks like an email address to the string >"email@hidden". Granted, this way people will not be able to find any >emails in the archives, but I'm not sure this is a real problem. To talk >to mailing-list subscribers, people should probably join the list and mail to it. I can think of two reasons why your global filter is less than satisfactory (this was discussed in another mailing list I'm on): 1. Emails in mailing lists are not always the address of the sender. For example, I can imagine that if someone published the email addresses of stores that sell PCs with linux pre-installed, it would be an on-topic subject for this list, and it would be a real shame if someone ran into this in the archives and they were all converted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Formatting reasons. Sometimes we format data, like lists of contacts, assuming the readers use a fixed-width font. Shortening e-mails tends to ruin such formatting. This means that your hiding mechanism is best done with a string of the same length as the original. I also have reason to disagree with your assumption that one never has to contact someone from the list personally. Suffice it to say that if I see someone on the list whose name is "Moshe Israeli", and I want to ask him the simple question "are you the Moshe Israeli I know from Moshav Ledugma?" (Happened to me, in my own mailing list...), you wouldn't want me to post to the entire list. There are less eccentric examples - you saw someone is using LinuxPPC, and you want to ask him whether he may have a source for used Mac parts in the Beer-Sheva area. Things like that. Don't prevent people from doing things within reason just because there are spammers out in the world. In egroups.com they limit access to e-mails in two forms. The ones in the "To:" are covered by a URL that leads to an form or page where you can email the person, and you can only go to a "To:" link a limited number of times per day, or something like that. And other emails in the text are covered with a change of one letter. Another mailing list I'm on simply replaces the character "@" with another character throughout the text. Herouth -- Herouth Maoz, B.Sc.Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOME PAGE:http://telem.openu.ac.il/~herutma/ Internet technical assistant Open University, Telem Project = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members": > > Right now, the Linux-IL archives list the senders of the messages along > with their E-mails. As it is, Spam harvesters can process the archives > looking for E-mail addresses. So, list subscribers can expect to get more > spam because of sending messages to the list. > > One way to eliminate this is to place a link to a CGI script that will > return a mailto: URL instead of the standard >... I use a much simpler method on the Ivrix mailing-list archives: I simply convert *everything* that looks like an email address to the string "email@hidden". Granted, this way people will not be able to find any emails in the archives, but I'm not sure this is a real problem. To talk to mailing-list subscribers, people should probably join the list and mail to it. It is still my contention that it is impolite for people to reply directly to posters (instead of answering them in the list), and defeats the reason for which the mailing-list was set up in the first place. Other tricks, like the ones suggested by Shlomi, can easily be defeated by spammers (although I doubt they actually do it now): after all, the spammers already have a web-crawler to harvest email address. Why couldn't this web-crawler follow the cgi link, see it is a redirect to a "mailto:" link, and so add that email to it's crop?! Other tricks, like adding or changing stuff in the middle of the addresses, are possible too, but unless someone has a good reason not to hide all email address as I suggested above, I'll stick to that fool-proof (and spam-proof) method. Here's an example script to change all email addresses in a file to the string "email@hidden": sed 's/[a-zA-Z0-9_.-]*\@[a-zA-Z0-9_.-]*[a-zA-Z0-9_-]/email@hidden/g' < in >out P.S. to anyone still bothered by spam, I suggest checking out procmail and rblcheck. I admit it's very hard to set up with appropriate rules (my procmail scripts are now over 600 lines), and to prevent false-positives, but if scripting and spam-fighting are your passions, the results are very rewarding. e.g, spam used to account for 50% of the emails I get (not counting mailing lists), and now it is only about 1% :) And now I don't have to worry if spammers get my address. -- Nadav Har'El | ## # | <-- Sorry if Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | # # # | you can't Department of Mathematics, Technion | # # # | read Hebrew. Israel Institute of Technology | # ## | Nadav. ;) WWW page: http://harel.org.il/nadav ICQ #13349191 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members
SF>> return a mailto: URL instead of the standard SF>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Foo &[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Thus it will SF>> look like this: SF>> http://www.url/cgi-bin/e-mail.cgi?id=7654345">Foo SF>> SF>> This should avoid the address being registered by most E-mail addresses SF>> scanners. I wonder if it's feasible to do some plugin like this to mhonarc, for example. It would be very useful, not only for Linux-IL, but for many other email archives. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eliminating Junk E-mail for List members
Right now, the Linux-IL archives list the senders of the messages along with their E-mails. As it is, Spam harvesters can process the archives looking for E-mail addresses. So, list subscribers can expect to get more spam because of sending messages to the list. One way to eliminate this is to place a link to a CGI script that will return a mailto: URL instead of the standard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Foo &[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Thus it will look like this: http://www.url/cgi-bin/e-mail.cgi?id=7654345">Foo This should avoid the address being registered by most E-mail addresses scanners. Of course it will require setting a CGI script on the same host as the archives, with interaction from the archives manager to locate and add addresses to its list. I suggest the webmaster of the archives implement a solution like that. Some people like Ira Abramov avoid being registered to Linux-IL because of this. Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of converting any statement that follows it into a true one. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mishkei.org.il - help needed!
hey. im using Slackware and it seem i have troubles connecting to my isp (mishkei.org.il) through ppp (ofcourse). i configed my ppp connection with the slackware 'pppsetup' tool, and it didnt worked although i gave it the offical (and what suppose to be right) information about my isp. i tried variuos connection scripts and every thing i can think of... i can only think that the information is not true. or that somthing wrong with my script. so if you got a mishkei.org.il ppp script. or the right info (nameservers, pap/chat, etc'..) e-mail me. thanx in ahead, ran. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hebrew under netscape, in the subject area
hi to solve the problem ofg invisible hebrew characters under the subject line in the mail-list do: add to ~/.Xdefaults : #--- Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:\ -*-fixed-medium-R-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-ISO8859-8,\ -*-fixed-Bold-R-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-ISO8859-8=BOLD,\ -*-courier-medium-o-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-ISO8859-*=ITALIC, #-- note the '8' in the iso8859-8 btw, check that you have such fonts by xlsfonts regards erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew in netscape
When I change the charset manually it doesn't change this, only the rest of the page, I think that the solution to seeing the page in hebrew is to chage charset automaticly, although thats the pages job, I don't knoe if there is anything you can do about a page that doesn't define its charset exsept chage it manually. I think menues and bookmarks is a different solution, I think you need to change netscape's font, not the pages font. On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Dorit Ben-Shalom wrote: > >Another question, if anyone can answear me, is how I make menu's and > >bookmarks apear in hebrew (document menu's - like in egged bus info for > >example - not netscape menu's) > > If tsafrir is right, the solution > to the two problems might be the same. > > What do you think? > > Dorit > > > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 2 16:17:03 1999 > Received: from cmx.netvision.net.il (cmx.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.103]) > by protos.lifesci.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16787 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:17:01 -0800 (PST) > Received: from techunix.technion.ac.il (techunix.technion.ac.il [132.68.1.28]) > by cmx.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20204 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:17:00 +0200 (IST) > Received: by techunix.technion.ac.il (Postfix, from userid 23727) > id 824588678; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:12:13 +0200 (IST) > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:12:13 +0200 (IST) > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: dorit ben shalom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: hebrew in netscape > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 1366 > Status: RO > > I believe that the default font that is used by netscape is set by the > window manager. I think that there are several fonts - one for the title, > one for buttons text, textboxes, etc. that you can not set through > netscape's fonts preferences. Note - It is possible that you can set those > fonts using some other method (X resources come to mind), but I hav't > tried digging there. > > I currently use WindowMaker for a window manager. Fonts can be easily set > using wmakerconf. > I believe that the same applies for kwm (kde's window manager) and > enlightenment, both of which come iwth easy to use configuration tools. > > Note: I have not tried invastegationg too much. I only played with those > things until I had it working... > > good luck > > Tzafrir Cohen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, dorit ben shalom wrote: > > > Hi list > > > > I can now read hebrew sites, > > and I can write hebrew in composer. > > But outside composer, > > I don't see the hebrew characters I write > > as hebrew. > > (e.g., in search engines). > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks again > > > > Dorit > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew in netscape
it is easy to change fonts in netscape, the next script will show you all the options: tr '\000' '\012' < /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator | grep ':.*iso8859' chnage the -*-helvetica and -adobe-courier to -hebrew-courier (if you used the font from eli marmor (thanks eli)) and put it in your ~/.Xdefaults you should fix the fonts with no '-' in the beggining (i.e. *-helvetica instead of -*-helvetica) and i think you should add 'Netscape' to the resource name if it doesn't exist. next, restart X. this changes the fonts, but dosn't make netscape write the hebrew letters in the subject area in the mail-list, but ignores them. btw: I sent a mail with the word 'nisaion' in hebrew, but got the next line: Subject: =?iso-8859-8?Q?=F0=F1=E9=E5=EF?= in the mail i see it o.k. (mirrored unless i use the bidir lib) but the subject in the mail-list is blank though it is in a hebrew font. any ideas ? regards erez Dorit Ben-Shalom wrote: > > >Another question, if anyone can answear me, is how I make menu's and > >bookmarks apear in hebrew (document menu's - like in egged bus info for > >example - not netscape menu's) > > If tsafrir is right, the solution > to the two problems might be the same. > > What do you think? > > Dorit > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hebrew for xkb and console (2nd)
Thanks to Tzafrir Cohen, I fixed a few problems: 1. the scroll lock led now works in X 2. the console keymaps now emits latin capitals when both hebrew and shift are pressed. 3. Another console font file (with different typeface) is available. Again, the package is available from http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~zivav/hebrew/hebkeys.tar.gz -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error in the load moduls.
Hi list. I just installed the 2.2.13 kernel. i done a make oldconfig and did not enable any of the new futures (i did not requierd them). Now, when i'm booting i have the following error : Nov 3 14:25:07 bigbrother depmod: can't open /lib/modules/2.2.13/modules.dep I do not have a /lib/modules/2.2.13/modules.dep at all. Is it OK ? is it becouse i do not have modules installed or do i have a problem in the make oldconfig ? What do i need to do in order to fix it ? Thanks, Mike
Re: HPT366 UDMA66 controller
>From what I read in linuk-kernel, there are problems with SMP and IDE on kernel version > 2.2.10 Nimrod Mesika wrote: > Just got my BP6 Dual Celeron board... I'm looking for drivers for the > built in HPT366 UDMA66 controller. Specifically, patches for 2.2.13 are > needed (patches for 2.2.12 are available but fail with .13). Anyone? > > -- Nimrod. > > p.s. I can't downgrade to 2.2.12 - for some reason it hangs during the > boot process(?). > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
